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Anyone knows the 0-100-0 for the ZL1 1LE 10 speed auto? The manual version shows 11.3 seconds. 10.6 for the GT500 with DCT sounds feasible.
Looking more into this, I think you're going to see better 0-100-0 times when the GT500 is tested at motortrend due to their testing separating the 0-100 and 100-0 tests and adding them together. The time to transition from throttle to break and dealing with the suspensions unloading in one direction and loading the other means this test will likely be better than expected.

Yep, that ZL1 time a few people have posted (see first quote ...) will likely be a good second slower vs. the GT500 when that same testing strategy is used. :sunglasses:
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Looking more into this, I think you're going to see better 0-100-0 times when the GT500 is tested at motortrend due to their testing separating the 0-100 and 100-0 tests and adding them together. The time to transition from throttle to break and dealing with the suspensions unloading in one direction and loading the other means this test will likely be better than expected. Decelerating is always going to be quicker when starting from a steady state rather than acceleration.

Some good reading here...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/the-2017-tesla-model-s-p100d-0-100-0-test

And here...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/motor-trend-testing
But nobody knows how and where Ford did there testing. Can there test be duplicated is the question.
 

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But nobody knows how and where Ford did there testing. Can there test be duplicated is the question.
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0-100-0 Mph On An Aircraft Carrier Deck
Ford is still unwilling to commit to a 0-60 or quarter-mile acceleration statistic, but Morgan did quote a 0-100-0-mph time of 10.6 seconds. This performance metric was popularized by the original Shelby Cobra roadster, which famously managed the feat in 13.6 seconds (sans ABS, a twin-clutch tranny, or a supercharger). He claims the GT500 could launch, hit 100 mph, and stop within the 1,092-foot length of an aircraft carrier deck."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-8-engine-facts

Sure sounds like an uninterrupted run to me.

None are going to be duplicating this test, as it is far too difficult to get consistent results...and it will be slower than the method motortrend tests.
 

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does anyone really care? we are only talking about it because the real important #s arent released yet. Its another teaser to draw out the hype. which im ok with, just stating
 

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0-100-0 Mph On An Aircraft Carrier Deck
Ford is still unwilling to commit to a 0-60 or quarter-mile acceleration statistic, but Morgan did quote a 0-100-0-mph time of 10.6 seconds. This performance metric was popularized by the original Shelby Cobra roadster, which famously managed the feat in 13.6 seconds (sans ABS, a twin-clutch tranny, or a supercharger). He claims the GT500 could launch, hit 100 mph, and stop within the 1,092-foot length of an aircraft carrier deck."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-8-engine-facts

Sure sounds like an uninterrupted run to me.

None are going to be duplicating this test, as it is far too difficult to get consistent results...and it will be slower than the method motortrend tests.
So you believe the 10.6 sec time but not the C8 being faster than a C7 ZO6? What if the 10.6 sec is only for the top of the trim Carbon Fiber Race Spec GT 500 with a 90+ thousand price point? Did anyone consider this? The weight has to go down and maybe with CF wheels and other weight loss so the 10.6 sec is only possible with the top of line trim GT 500 in only ideal conditions.
 

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So you believe the 10.6 sec time but not the C8 being faster than a C7 ZO6? What if the 10.6 sec is only for the top of the trim Carbon Fiber Race Spec GT 500 with a 90+ thousand price point? Did anyone consider this? The weight has to go down and maybe with CF wheels and other weight loss so the 10.6 sec is only possible with the top of line trim GT 500 in only ideal conditions.
what C8 model do you think is beating a c7 z06 again?

the gt500 cftp is maybe 150lbs less than base
 

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what C8 model do you think is beating a c7 z06 again?

the gt500 cftp is maybe 150lbs less than base
Lets make it clear. I AM NOT THINKING. This is stated by a lead GM engineer who worked on the C7 and C8 development project. He stated that ( Link can be found in previous pages) the Z51 Performance Packaged equipped C8 is faster than a ZO6. It is a general statement with his own words. No body is thinking. We are just following up with his statement. Can it be just 0-60, quarter mile, around a road course? Who knows. As a fact all we know is the car can do 0-60 mph under 3 seconds which already puts it ahead of the C7 ZO6. Hack it can even be the manual version of the ZO6 that he is talking about. Who knows lol.
 

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Lets make it clear. I AM NOT THINKING.
Debate rule #12: NEVER say you are not thinking, regardless of the context.
 

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Lets make it clear. I AM NOT THINKING. This is stated by a lead GM engineer who worked on the C7 and C8 development project. He stated that ( Link can be found in previous pages) the Z51 Performance Packaged equipped C8 is faster than a ZO6. It is a general statement with his own words. No body is thinking. We are just following up with his statement. Can it be just 0-60, quarter mile, around a road course? Who knows. As a fact all we know is the car can do 0-60 mph under 3 seconds which already puts it ahead of the C7 ZO6. Hack it can even be the manual version of the ZO6 that he is talking about. Who knows lol.
Probably just 0-60. It does not have the power to beat the Z in the 1/4.
 

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So you believe the 10.6 sec time but not the C8 being faster than a C7 ZO6? What if the 10.6 sec is only for the top of the trim Carbon Fiber Race Spec GT 500 with a 90+ thousand price point? Did anyone consider this? The weight has to go down and maybe with CF wheels and other weight loss so the 10.6 sec is only possible with the top of line trim GT 500 in only ideal conditions.
That is correct. Ford stated an actual time.

As for the optioned car, anyone would assume it to be the top of the line performance model. Chevy did the same with the C8. The only sub 3 second 0-60 time will be with the Z51 Performance Package, not the base corvette.

It boggles my mind how you think this C8 will be faster in the 1/4 mile than the C7 z06. Every single piece of evidence points to it not being able to match the Z06. Again, think about it one last time. The Z06 runs a sub 3 second 0-60 time (same as the C8, and taken directly from GM). The Z06 has an extremely fast shifting automatic transmission.
If both of these cars run similar 0-60 times, how on Gods green earth to you think the C8 will be able to somehow pass the Z06 in the 1/4 mile having (likely) similar coefficients of drag and 150 less horsepower? The only advantage the C8 is going to have is on the launch, and the Z06 has enough horsepower and tire to keep things close.

One more thing worth mentioning, this C8 is likely going to have a lower top end speed than the Z06. Current estimates put the top speed somewhere in the low to mid 180's.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/07/2020-corvette-top-speed-currently-untested/

So again, this is one more area where the C8 will not "outperform" the Z06.

It's GM's job to talk up the C8 corvette. None are going to hold anyone accountable for vague, misinformation from company personal. They have to make the C8 corvette look better than the previous gen to avoid it looking like a failure...or a step back.
 

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What if the 10.6 sec is only for the top of the trim Carbon Fiber Race Spec GT 500 with a 90+ thousand price point? Did anyone consider this? The weight has to go down and maybe with CF wheels and other weight loss so the 10.6 sec is only possible with the top of line trim GT 500 in only ideal conditions.
... or maybe with less downforce, the base model actually get to 100 quicker and then stops from 100 at the same duration, so it's actually __faster__ 0-100-0 :D

(it's been reported the base is actually quicker in the 1/4 mile ...)
 

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just got the official weight screen shot from my dealer.
4225 lbs for the base car.
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