2016 Mustang GT vs EB, which one to buy?

[Randy954]

I don't know where some of you are coming off by saying the EB has "no grunt".

Unless my EB is an anomaly from those who say they HAVE driven an EB, mine has A LOT of grunt and can give most V8's a run for their money - that's in both the normal drive mode and Sport mode.

I believe most who are trashing the EB either never really drove one - not putzed around @ 35mph in a residential zone - I mean REALLY driven one on an open highway where it counts and made the horse RUN.

eco=no grunt

315hp (really 260-270ish to the wheels) isnt that much especially considering its a 3600 pound car. So its really not a huge shocker.

My insurance and price of gas is higher. No denying that. But it wasnt high enough to sway my decision to get the GT. I think id be saving about 1000-1500 per year driving the ecoboost over the gt. Shit a decent exhaust costs that much so it was a no brainer for me.

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[Ebm]

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Good retort and convo - so don't take any offense to the below.

The point being missed - the V8 Mustang was designed and derived from an original 4cyl drivetrain - the Mustang NEVER came to light with a V8.

The EB's are keeping up with the "5.0's", maybe not to most V8 owner terms - but granted, the tuned/modified EB guys are turning 9's, a far cry from that 80's SVO that everyone wants to relate the new EB back to, when it's not even any comparison. Everyone with a GT thinks "oh, 4cyl, turbo, it has nothing over a V8"...

Here's another thing too about the EB:
There IS a difference between driving a Base EB vs. a Performance Pack equipped EB. So if some of you drove the EB base, which for one has shitty 3.15 rear gearing and other variances due how the base is equipped vs. a PP, then I could see how some folks could perceive an EB Mustang to be "gutless". This is not to put down any EB Base owners, but there is a definite difference between the 2 EB models.

Can the EB models be tuned, upgraded, modified, raced and also get poor gas mileage like a V8.... sure thing! not a jab, just saying, an EB owner can have just as much fun, if not match the performance/handling aspect of the 5.0 with the same efforts. Everyone agrees an EB Mustang will never sound like a V8....

Ecoboost comes with either a 3:31 or 3:55 gear ratio. I think both ratios are fine for every kind of driving the average person would do.

Also, whenever I look at a Mustang, I think sports car, not muscle car. The muscle car era is dead and gone, never coming back. EVER. So back to what a sports car is. A sports car is something that looks good, goes fast, and handles well. The ecoboost Mustang covers all those bases. Never looked at a GT. No need to. No regrets. I don't need someone that travels gas station to gas station to tell me their car is superior. Subjectivity is a strange thing eh?

 

[GJarrett]

... is how it is and not how it was you should stfu...

One advantage of owning an Ecoboost is that it will not trigger any type of maturity regression syndrome that seems to afflict many GT owners.

...Several things here, one you have voided the warranty that not everyone is interested in voiding and two there is a reason it didn't come like that from the factory. Several, in fact.

It would benefit many of you to choose to think before you submit, everything isn't the same as everything else so let's stop pretending.

Also, the FP tune does NOT void the warranty; it supplements/replaces it with a 3/36 one and is still valid 5/60 for other powertrain items. It would benefit many to know what they are talking about before submitting a post.

 

[Stormtrooper5.0]

If I had an Ecoboost I'd just enjoy the fuck out of it. I would do the same if I had a GT.....and that is what I am doing with my V6 even after 1 1/2 years of having it.

Not everyone can afford a GT...or a GT350. The Ecoboost is probably the fastest car in its price range. Unless the V6 Camaro is priced similarly.

 

[berserker_sid]

My two cents.

Your money your call. What do you expect from your car. If you need a car which is fast enough , good looking but you can get over sound part EB is a great car.
If need raw power ,grumble get GT.
I have had both cars and i was not disappointed by any. I used to have EB and have always had V8s. EB is a great car , mod friendly and still fast enough to get you in trouble.
V8 are raw power.
Some people love turbo, some hardcore v8. So its your call.
BUt whatever car you buy, ask yourself twice what do you expect from it. YOu buy EB and then expect it sound like V8, you will be disappointment.
SO choice is all yours

 

[PatrickHenninger]

I'll try to leave my opinion out, but it's inevitable I'm sure.

I test drove a 2015 Mustang EB PP at my local stealership (the V6 seemed pointless to me. I either wanted forced induction, or raw HP/TQ from a V8) and it was a cool car! I loves all the features and options. It was SURPRISINGLY quick, and I didn't expect that. Coming from a 2007 Charger R/T, I was confident the EB was faster.

Then I made a trip an hour south and test drove a '15 GT. I was sold.

I bought a new 2015 Mustang GT (base auto) for $27,800 in January 2015. I have put 16k miles on it so far, I drive 60+- miles round trip for work, M-F. Backroads to work, highway home. I have never reset the MPG meter, and I am locked in at 20.9mpg average. Not tuned, not modded, 87 Octane, only custom exhaust.

It's all about what you want. Want out of the box fast? Get the GT. When you look at it FAIRLY, it will always be faster on a level plane. (If you put $7k into an Ecoboost, put $7k into the GT- GT is STILL faster.)

 

[Jdenkevitz]

It's all about what you want. Want out of the box fast? Get the GT. When you look at it FAIRLY, it will always be faster on a level plane. (If you put $7k into an Ecoboost, put $7k into the GT- GT is STILL faster.)

To be fair to the EB, you don't need anywhere near 7k to get it performing equivalently to a stock GT, for considerably less total cost.

Aftermarket IC and a tune for around $1200 and you have a lighter quicker car than a stock GT. In fact I'd wager that if you were to look at total cost, and allot the EB a mod budget equivalent to the price differential, the EB will kill the GT. 22k for an EB vs 28k for GT. 6k gets you a ton in an EB.

 

[PatrickHenninger]

To be fair to the EB, you don't need anywhere near 7k to get it performing equivalently to a stock GT, for considerably less total cost.

Aftermarket IC and a tune for around $1200 and you have a lighter quicker car than a stock GT. In fact I'd wager that if you were to look at total cost, and allot the EB a mod budget equivalent to the price differential, the EB will kill the GT. 22k for an EB vs 28k for GT. 6k gets you a ton in an EB.

Maybe you missed the OP's point that he does NOT want to do modifications, as anything he does would void his warranty...

Also, spend the same $1,200 from that EB on the GT, the GT is still gonna be in the front.

 

[metalhead79]

eco=no grunt

315hp (really 260-270ish to the wheels) isnt that much especially considering its a 3600 pound car. So its really not a huge shocker.

That's a pretty subjective statement you're posting as fact. I replaced my 150hp/236lb ft torque Jetta with this Mustang. Going from 150hp to 310hp is an eye opening experience. I haven't had my GT for 8 years, so I'd forgotten what having this kind of horsepower feels like.

Ecoboost comes with either a 3:31 or 3:55 gear ratio. I think both ratios are fine for every kind of driving the average person would do.

I'm pretty sure base automatics get 3.15. The non-PP manuals get 3.31.

My two cents.

Your money your call. What do you expect from your car. If you need a car which is fast enough , good looking but you can get over sound part EB is a great car.
If need raw power ,grumble get GT.
I have had both cars and i was not disappointed by any. I used to have EB and have always had V8s. EB is a great car , mod friendly and still fast enough to get you in trouble.
V8 are raw power.
Some people love turbo, some hardcore v8. So its your call.
BUt whatever car you buy, ask yourself twice what do you expect from it. YOu buy EB and then expect it sound like V8, you will be disappointment.
SO choice is all yours

Pretty much.

It's all about what you want. Want out of the box fast? Get the GT. When you look at it FAIRLY, it will always be faster on a level plane. (If you put $7k into an Ecoboost, put $7k into the GT- GT is STILL faster.)

I'm not sure that's actually true. Turbo upgrades are $2-3k and a built short block ranges from $4k-6k. I think roughly $7k, maybe a bit more, would give you an EB that could hold it's own against a blown GT.

I'm not an expert, though. I could be entirely wrong. I'm still new to this whole turbo 4cyl performance thing. Used to be all about V8's, just thought I'd try something new this time.

 

[Jdenkevitz]

Maybe you missed the OP's point that he does NOT want to do modifications, as anything he does would void his warranty...

Also, spend the same $1,200 from that EB on the GT, the GT is still gonna be in the front.

I was responding directly to your statements, wherein you brought up the notion of putting mods:

(If you put $7k into an Ecoboost, put $7k into the GT- GT is STILL faster.)"

So maybe look in the mirror. Not to mention the underlying supposition is false. A ford performance tune if installed by Ford does not void warranty.

Have you driven a tuned EB? The difference is huge between many of them and the stock iteration.

 

[Stormtrooper5.0]

I bought a new 2015 Mustang GT (base auto) for $27,800 in January 2015. I have put 16k miles on it so far, I drive 60+- miles round trip for work, M-F. Backroads to work, highway home. I have never reset the MPG meter, and I am locked in at 20.9mpg average. Not tuned, not modded, 87 Octane, only custom exhaust.

27k for a new GT wtf that's a steal. This is why I cannot get a GT, even base models around here go for 34k on average. I've seen some for 32k but barely.
Even used GT's, if I see one for around 27-28k it usually has like 15-20k miles on it.

#PoorPeopleProblems

 

[Seceda91]

27k for a new GT wtf that's a steal. This is why I cannot get a GT, even base models around here go for 34k on average. I've seen some for 32k but barely.
Even used GT's, if I see one for around 27-28k it usually has like 15-20k miles on it.

#PoorPeopleProblems

No man, it's Cali.. prices STINK here.

 

[PatrickHenninger]

27k for a new GT wtf that's a steal. This is why I cannot get a GT, even base models around here go for 34k on average. I've seen some for 32k but barely.
Even used GT's, if I see one for around 27-28k it usually has like 15-20k miles on it.

#PoorPeopleProblems

Oh, it was pure luck I found this one, it had 300 miles on it because the manager had been driving it, and that was the only leverage I had. He kept telling me it was new, and I argued it was used. He said it had never changed ownership, blah blah blah, so I sent him a document from my credit union that showed "Any vehicle with more than 3,000 miles was considered used." but I kinda doctored it to say 300 miles before I sent it to him, and it worked.

Yes, I'm a jerk, it was dishonest, but I don't care... I digress.

 

[shelbywannabe]

I just got my 2016 GT performance pack with 4700 miles for $27,600 out the door so I could not pass it up

 

[Stormtrooper5.0]

Oh, it was pure luck I found this one, it had 300 miles on it because the manager had been driving it, and that was the only leverage I had. He kept telling me it was new, and I argued it was used. He said it had never changed ownership, blah blah blah, so I sent him a document from my credit union that showed "Any vehicle with more than 3,000 miles was considered used." but I kinda doctored it to say 300 miles before I sent it to him, and it worked.

Yes, I'm a jerk, it was dishonest, but I don't care... I digress.

You are a jerk..............but I would've done the same thing if I could.

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