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Hey All,

I'm currently looking to buy a set of winter tires for my 19 mustang PP1. I picked up a set of OEM wheels for $400, gonna have the curb rash repaired and the tires swapped to snows.

I'm looking at Blizzak LM005's, as they seems to claim better dry performance. My commute is 5 miles, so I can live with less than stellar snow performance. I live in the greater Boston area so snow is usually cleaned up fast, its not often that I find myself driving on snow covered roads. Most of the time I am on dry (salty) or slushy roads. Ice is atypical because of the aforementioned salt lol, and I'm not up in the mountains where I need to drive over packed snow.

The wheels came with a set of all seasons on them with one bald tire, I don't know if I should replace the all season or just swap the whole set to the LM005's.

In the past I ran a set of General Altimax arctic 12's on my focus ST, they were like jelly. Good snow performance, but absolutely absymal dry performance. Breaking was bad, I could set off the traction control at highway speeds. I'm scared of what that would be like in the mustang. Very much not a performance tire. I'm trying to avoid that for this car

What do you guys think? Opinions on the blizzaks? I'm shying away from the WS90 because the LM005 is sold as a "performance" winter tire.
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Sounds like you'd be better off with a good hi-perf. A/S tire. I run Continental DWS during winter, no issues. Throw some weight in the trunk on bad weather days and you'll be fine.
 

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I've personally been running Blizzak Lm-32s for the past 3 winters and they've been awesome in dry, wet and snow. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the LM005s when mine wear out.
 
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Sounds like you'd be better off with a good hi-perf. A/S tire. I run Continental DWS during winter, no issues. Throw some weight in the trunk on bad weather days and you'll be fine.
The wheels have Pzero Nero's on them, I'm not familiar with them but if I went the A/S route I'd likely stay with those to save cash.

how much did you get the contis for?
 

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No experience with the Nero's but Pirelli makes a good tire. I think I paid $250/tire a couple years ago for the Conti's.
 

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I run Blizzak WS90 and they’re great. Michelin and Continental also make really good winter tires. If you go the all season route, I would second the Conti DWS06. The Pirelli’s suck in my opinio, I ditched them a week after I got my car.
 

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All snow tires are horrible in the dry.

Least bad / most all season like is the Michelin Xi3.

If you aren’t doing snow driving, the Michelin performance all season is what track people use down south when the do road racing track days in the very very cold.

I use studded Hakkas because I AM going skiing no matter what.
 
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All snow tires are horrible in the dry.

Least bad / most all season like is the Michelin Xi3.

If you aren’t doing snow driving, the Michelin performance all season is what track people use down south when the do road racing track days in the very very cold.

I use studded Hakkas because I AM going skiing no matter what.
Where are you from? Studs are rare around here, if you cross into northern NH or VT you'll see them a lot more. Those guys get pummeled

The car will see snow, i'm thinking the LM005 is where i'm gonna be at. Just need to wait for them to get back in stock in the size i want.
 

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Hey All,

I'm currently looking to buy a set of winter tires for my 19 mustang PP1. I picked up a set of OEM wheels for $400, gonna have the curb rash repaired and the tires swapped to snows.

I'm looking at Blizzak LM005's, as they seems to claim better dry performance. My commute is 5 miles, so I can live with less than stellar snow performance. I live in the greater Boston area so snow is usually cleaned up fast, its not often that I find myself driving on snow covered roads. Most of the time I am on dry (salty) or slushy roads. Ice is atypical because of the aforementioned salt lol, and I'm not up in the mountains where I need to drive over packed snow.

The wheels came with a set of all seasons on them with one bald tire, I don't know if I should replace the all season or just swap the whole set to the LM005's.

In the past I ran a set of General Altimax arctic 12's on my focus ST, they were like jelly. Good snow performance, but absolutely absymal dry performance. Breaking was bad, I could set off the traction control at highway speeds. I'm scared of what that would be like in the mustang. Very much not a performance tire. I'm trying to avoid that for this car

What do you guys think? Opinions on the blizzaks? I'm shying away from the WS90 because the LM005 is sold as a "performance" winter tire.
I daily my convertible and run on Pirelli Sottozero 3 winter tires and love them. I should add that while I have had a great experience with the Pirelli Sottozero 3 winter tires, I am over in Colorado where the snow does not last very long. They are good in inches of snow but the sun here melts it away usually by the afternoon/next day. The roads do not stay snow covered for long. Looks like you are over in Boston, I would caution getting the Pirelli Sottozero 3 as if the snow sticks around a lot longer, there are probably better choices out there for that kind of winter driving.
 

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Where are you from? Studs are rare around here, if you cross into northern NH or VT you'll see them a lot more. Those guys get pummeled

The car will see snow, i'm thinking the LM005 is where i'm gonna be at. Just need to wait for them to get back in stock in the size i want.
i live in Burlington MA. And continuously drive north to go skiing.
 
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I agree with some of the others. A good high performance all season will work great. My 325 wide Michelins do well in Central Mass winters and grip like whoa.

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Thanks for the response, if i went thisroute, i'd convert my PP1 wheels to "winters" with A/S's and then get something cool for the summer.

The fact that you live in mass makes me feel confident in your response lol, what tires are you running? Pilot sport AS 4s?
 
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i live in Burlington MA. And continuously drive north to go skiing.
I'm in Melrose currently but moving to Lowell, so we're basically in the same area. Small world.

I still have a lot to consider, its a tough situation. I picked up the wheels for $400 with tires and TPMS. Originally the guy wanted $500 and I was gonna pay it and just deal with the all seasons, but they were curbed and one was bald so he took $100 off when i showed up.

$400 for these wheels was not a bad price, but i'm looking at $600 to have them repaired (that includes custom powdercoat though...🤔), then $1000 to get new tires.

$2k is alot for what are essentially an OEM set with snows. These rims are $500 each new from ford, but they aren't that good looking.

The other option is to just turn the PP1 wheels I have into "winters" and get something cool for the summer.



hmmmmm
 

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I'm in Melrose currently but moving to Lowell, so we're basically in the same area. Small world.

I still have a lot to consider, its a tough situation. I picked up the wheels for $400 with tires and TPMS. Originally the guy wanted $500 and I was gonna pay it and just deal with the all seasons, but they were curbed and one was bald so he took $100 off when i showed up.

$400 for these wheels was not a bad price, but i'm looking at $600 to have them repaired (that includes custom powdercoat though...🤔), then $1000 to get new tires.

$2k is alot for what are essentially an OEM set with snows. These rims are $500 each new from ford, but they aren't that good looking.

The other option is to just turn the PP1 wheels I have into "winters" and get something cool for the summer.



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You don’t want staggered winter wheels. Not being able to rotate is just making everything more expensive.
 
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You don’t want staggered winter wheels. Not being able to rotate is just making everything more expensive.
Good point, I had not considered that.

I think I'm overthinking this, easiest way out is to replace the bald tire with the same one, if they suck I'm only out the cost of one tire. A $250 gamble.
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