Will Trump be impeached?

[watisthis]

We get it not all Democrats are of sound mind or are good people in general. However, to point your finger at Democrats only is completely disingenuous. Do I have to start posting bad shit about Republicans? Like the one in Washington that tried to kill all non christians and make his own state? Or how about the Republican from Alabama who was sexually assaulting kids and women who Trump endorsed? There are just as many bad Republicans as there are Democrats so get off your high horse.

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[watisthis]

@Timeless I just had to google 'TDS' since you couldn't have just quoted me.

LMAO! Am I looking at the correct 'TDS?'

"TDS
Trump Delusion Syndrome. The inability to find fault with Trump due to the fact that you voted for him in 2016. Also see: Cognitive Dissonance and Confirmation Bias.

Trump Derangement Syndrome
The mental derangement manifesting in right-wing supporters of Donald Trump who reject rational discussions of Trump's undeniable unfitness for the office he currently holds. Like Trump, TDS sufferers have a severe break withreality (that he is incompetent and unfit) and use various psychological coping mechanisms in pathological ways to avoid dealing with it. These include:

repression where TDS sufferers simply refuse to admit to facts

regression where TDS sufferers fall back on name-calling (i.e. the far, far left, communists, facists, radicals, America-haters, man-haters, white-haters ect.)

projection where TDS sufferers accuse rational folks of the maladies they and Trump suffer from (instability, poor work ethic, low curiosity, abject knowledge, pathological dishonesty, corruption, narcissism, unpopularity, racism, bias, prejudice, criminality, indecision, timidity and general poor mental and physical health)
whataboutism where TDS sufferers refuse to deal with facts about Trump's unacceptable behavior by switching the topic
deflection where TDS sufferers attempt to switch the focus to something other than themselves and Trump
equivalence where TDS sufferers attempt to claim that Trump and themselves are well within norms
exaggeration where TDS sufferers attempt to portray opponents as far outside norms
conspiracy groupies where TDS sufferers imbibe preposterous conspiracy theories that have been thoroughly debunked"

Yo! This is fucking hilarious if you guys have been using 'TDS' incorrectly!

 

[GT Pony]

My job is cyber policy and cyber security at an agency on Fort Meade as another agency subcontractor. So yes as a member of the intelligence community I do understand. I can provide a picture of my car on Fort Meade if needed.

"Trump was over a billion in debt and the Russians bailed him out. This is how he made a comeback

► Trump was first compromised by the Russians back in the 80s. In 1984, the Russian Mafia began to use Trump's real estate to launder money and it continued for decades. In 1987, the Soviet ambassador to the United Nations, Yuri Dubinin, arranged for Trump and his then-wife, Ivana, to enjoy an all-expense-paid trip to Moscow to consider possible business prospects. Only seven weeks after his trip, Trump ran full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the NYT and WaPo calling for, in effect, the dismantling of the postwar Western foreign policy alliance. The whole Trump/Russian connection started out as laundering money for the Russian mob through Trump's real estate but evolved into something far bigger.

► In 1984, David Bogatin — a Russian mobster, convicted gasoline bootlegger, and close ally of Semion Mogilevich, a major Russian mob boss — met with Trump in Trump Tower right after it opened. Bogatin bought five condos from Trump at that meeting. Those condos were later seized by the government, which claimed they were used to launder money for the Russian mob. (NY Times, Apr 30, 1992)

► Felix Sater is a Russian-born former mobster and former managing director of NY real estate conglomerate Bayrock Group LLC located on the 24th floor of Trump Tower. He is a convict who became a govt cooperator for the FBI and other agencies. He grew up with Michael Cohen--Trump's former "fixer" attorney. Cohen's family-owned El Caribe, which was a mob hangout for the Russian Mafia in Brooklyn. Cohen had ties to Ukrainian oligarchs through his in-laws and his brother's in-laws. Felix Sater's father had ties to the Russian mob. This goes back more than 30 years.

► Trump was $4 billion in debt after his Atlantic City casinos went bankrupt. No U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in through Bayrock (mentioned above). Bayrock was run by two investors: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia. Bayrock partnered with Trump in 2005 and poured money into the Trump organization under the legal guise of licensing his name and property management.

► Semion Mogilevich was the brains behind the Russian Mafia. Mogilevich operatives have been using Trump's real estate for decades to launder money. That means Russian Mafia operatives have been part of his fortune for years, that many of them have owned condos in Trump Towers and other properties, that they were running operations out of Trump's crown jewel. (Mogilevich's role today is unclear).

► One of the most important things that are often overlooked is that the Russia Mafia is part and parcel of Russian intelligence. Russia is a mafia state. that is not a metaphor. Putin is head of the Mafia. So the fact that they have been operating out of the home of the president of the United States is deeply disturbing.

► From Craig Unger's AMA: "Early on, a source told me that all this was tied to Semion Mogilevich, the powerful Russian mobster. I had never even heard of him, but I immediately went to a database that listed the owners of all properties in NY state and looked up all the Trump properties. Every time I found a Russian sounding name, I would Google, and add Mogilevich. When you do investigative reporting, you anticipate drilling a number of dry holes, but almost everyone I googled turned out to be a Russian mobster. Again and again. If you know New York you don't expect Trump Tower to be a high crime neighborhood, but there were far too many Russian mobsters in Trump properties for it to be a coincidence."

► So many Russians bought Trump apartments at his developments in Florida that the area became known as Little Moscow. The developers of two of his hotels were Russians with significant links to the Russian mob. The late leader of that mob in the United States, Vyacheslav Kirillovich Ivankov, was living at Trump Tower.

► According to a Bloomberg investigation (March 16, 2017) into Trump World Tower, “a third of units sold on floors 76 through 83 by 2004 involved people or limited liability companies connected to Russia and neighboring states.”

► In July 2008, the height of the recession, Donald Trump sold a mansion in Palm Beach for $95 million to Dmitry Rybolovlev, a Russian oligarch. Trump had purchased it four years earlier for $41.35 million. The sale price was nearly $54 million more than Trump had paid for the property. Again, this was the height of the recession when all other property had plummeted in value.

► In 2013, Federal agents busted an “ultra-exclusive, high-stakes, illegal poker ring” run by Russian gangsters out of Trump Tower. In addition to card games, they operated illegal gambling websites, ran a global sportsbook and laundered more than $100 million. A condo directly below one owned by Trump reportedly served as HQ for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” connected to Semion Mogilevich.

► Rudy Giuliani famously prosecuted the Italian mob while he was a federal prosecutor, yet the Russian mob was allowed to thrive under his tenure in the Southern District and Mayor. And now he's deeply entwined in the business of Trump and Russian oligarchs. Giuliani appointed Semyon Kislin to the NYC Economic Development Council in 1990, and the FBI described Kislin as having ties tot he Russian mob. Of course, it made good political sense for Giuliani to get headlines for smashing the Italian mob.

► A lot of Republicans in Washington are implicated. Boatloads of Russian money went to the GOP--often in legal ways. The NRA got as much as $70M from Russia, then funneled it to the GOP. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee lead by McConnel got millions from Leonard Blavatnik. In the 90s, the Russians began sending money to top GOP leaders, like Speaker of the House Tom Delay. Unger's book alleges that most of the GOP leadership has been compromised by RU money.

► At the Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan, on September 9, 10, and 11, 2008, Trump Jr. was frank about the tide of Russian money supporting the family business, saying "...And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."

► Eric Trump told James Dodson, a golf reporter, in 2014 that the Trump Organization was able to expand during the financial crisis because “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Outcomes that show Trump is taking orders (or cues) from Putin:

► At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies started making a strong push for a resolution that would justify their country’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse a 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. The Putinists’ goal was to pass the resolution by Feb. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. And out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan.

► Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. "I don't care, I believe Putin"

► Trump met in secret with Putin the G20 summit in November 2018, without note-takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria. As a note, Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed.

► Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.

► He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.

► Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe with impunity. The US already has all the weaponry that the INF would ban the development of, so this offers us literally nothing while allowing Russia to develop powerful new weapons to challenge our allies.

► And of course, Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, a move so catastrophically stupid, so inconceivably cosmically myopic, I truly can't express the profundity of the idiocy. Suffice to say, pulling out of NATO would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason, suddenly giving the people with crude homemade shivs complete power.

► In summation: Trump was $4 billion in debt and the Russians bailed him out"

He's so hard on Russia that he believes Putin over our intelligence community when it comes to Russian hacking. This administration has been the most lax on Russian aggression on both the cyber front and their dealings with spreading influence into the Middle East. Their work with Iran and China is only going to foster worse national security risks for America.

"That being said, every world leader would like to work with world leaders of a like mindset. And every world leader has most likely walked the line of influence. The current framework makes it easy to do with any number of foundations/etc that can funnel money/influence to the candidates they want to help. The people responsible for making changes to this do not want it to change so it never will."

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Trump has had ties to Russia for a good part of his life (as your list shows) ... so it's no wonder the FBI looked into things related to his involvement and connection to Russia. Believe it or not, the FBI is not a Russian ally or sympathizer like some here are.

And there are many people connected to Trump that have Russian ties. Go click on any one of the people listed under "Trump's Associates" and see how they have Russian connections and involvement.

The many paths from Trump to Russia
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/trump-russia-connections/

 

[GT Pony]

More reading.

25 times Trump was soft on Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html

Trump’s Treachery Goes Way Beyond Russia
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/trumps-treachery-goes-way-beyond-russia.html

 

[GT Pony]

Trump has met with Putin behind closed doors many times - what was actually discussed when no U.S. official was on hand to take notes? Trump then pulls troops out of Syria giving Russia free reign. Coincidence?

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/29/18202515/trump-putin-russia-g20-ft-note

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-withdraws-assad-putin-are-emerging-winners-syria-n1066231

 

[GT Pony]

The FBI needs to investigate Giuliani because he's clearly a national security risk. Everything Giuliani does, Trump knows about since Giuliani is Trump's bird dog to go out and do all his sneaky dealings. Russia continues to play these two clowns.

 

[GT Pony]

Post links proving there were note takers, and what was said in those meetings behind closed doors when everyone else says there were no note takers, and nobody has reported what was said between Trump and his puppet master.

Keep drinking the Trump Kool-Aid Comrade, while you spread your false propaganda, lol.

 

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[GT Pony]

As usual, only nonsense replies from bjstang ... he can never post any links to support his claims. Post up what was said in these meetings between Trump and Putin. Guess what, you won't ever find them because there were never any transcribed notes take in some of them. Putin and Trump speak to each other quite often without any transcribers around. And if any notes are taken, Trump forbids the notes to be given to anyone.

Keep on spewing TZ nonsense Comrade. Snuggle up with your Zombie Edition Trumpy Bear and have a good night.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html

"Mr. Tillerson told reporters that the leaders discussed everything from Syria to Ukraine ...."

Yeah, I would expect so. Then look what happened in Syria and with Ukraine after that.

 

[GT Pony]

Gutfeld (and crazy drunk girlfriend of Trump's)... just Trump propaganda spewing mouthpieces from Faux News. I would expect a fanatical TZ to lap that crap up like candy.

 

[GT Pony]

Someone must have let bjstang out of his straight jacket tonight, lol.

 

[GT Pony]

Like I said, ol' Comrade Rudy needs to be investigated.

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