Wheel Spacers ??

[ScottsGT]

Why not using torque specs? I reduced torque on the nuts that hold the spacers, but not on the ones holding the wheels to them.

mfgr of the spacers required 90 ft lbs for the bolts holding the spacers on and the lug nuts to be 125 for warranty. According to them, over torquing could cause them to crack. Worked fine at these specs for years. Adding the loctite was my decision.

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[Ewheels]

mfgr of the spacers required 90 ft lbs for the bolts holding the spacers on and the lug nuts to be 125 for warranty. According to them, over torquing could cause them to crack. Worked fine at these specs for years. Adding the loctite was my decision.

That's scary.

So Ford being a huge global manufacturer who is governed by international standards and certifications, must meet certain quality requirements, and gets audited to assure they are following all the rules accordingly states that 150 lb-ft is required to achieve proper clamping force but a comparatively small 3rd party manufacturer who is required to meet no such standards and gets audited by no one says their product will crack with anything over 90 lb-ft.......

Going X many miles without incident is not justification that what you're doing is correct or safe.

 

[NTXChris]

I bought my car with 10,500 miles on it, and it already had 25mm spacers at each corner. I'm now at ~97,000 miles with the same spacers. All lugs torqued to 150 lb-ft and no issues. During my most recent visit to Discount Tire to have new rear tires put on, they even checked that the rear spacers were torqued properly before reinstalling the wheels. Used responsibly, bolt-on spacers are fine. They may cause some accelerated suspension or bearing wear, but you gotta pay to play, as the saying goes.

My only complaint about spacers in general is that they can be difficult to remove in some situations. As long as you are prepared for that complication, and you maintain the car responsibly, you'll be fine.

 

[pinksurfer]

So Ford being a huge global manufacturer who is governed by international standards and certifications, must meet certain quality requirements, and gets audited to assure they are following all the rules

man... that's a lot to say about the gov't/business sector in an industry that recalls millions of vehicles a year for manufacturing/engineering defects/f-ups.

there's currently 300,000 cars recalled in the last month alone over catching on fire and burning from 3 manufacturers. I bet that is a 1000x more than cars that have had spacer issues in the last 5 years. speaks volumes to our standards and certifications.

 

[MontiCristo]

so will a '21 performance package car with magnaride allow spacers to be run? 25mm?

 

[jacknifetoaswan]

so will a '21 performance package car with magnaride allow spacers to be run? 25mm?

Why wouldn't it?

JR

 

[MontiCristo]

Why wouldn't it?

JR

I'm not sure, I called steeda and they told me i could not run spacers with my car due to the performance package and magnaride.

 

[Steeda-Sergio]

so will a '21 performance package car with magnaride allow spacers to be run? 25mm?

It can vary a bit (few MM) from car to car. Best way to check is hang a string (or any straight flexible line, used a phone charging cable recently) with a weight on the end (my phone since that why I had at hand) from the fender to past the middle of your wheel (center cap). Then measure from the center of the cap (or tire if it bulges past) to the string.

That will give you a more accurate measurement for your vehicle. I always subtract 2-3 MM to account for the fender lip.

 

[jacknifetoaswan]

I'm not sure, I called steeda and they told me i could not run spacers with my car due to the performance package and magnaride.

I have no idea why you wouldn't be able to run them, but Steeda is preeeeeeeeettttttyyyy smart about what you can and can't do with these cars. I'd listen to them.

JR

 

[MontiCristo]

I have no idea why you wouldn't be able to run them, but Steeda is preeeeeeeeettttttyyyy smart about what you can and can't do with these cars. I'd listen to them.

JR

I understand, but I'm being told by many guys on this forum that they run 25mm spacers on their PP magnaride cars no problem, so something is rotten in Denmark.

 

[Steeda-Sergio]

I understand, but I'm being told by many guys on this forum that they run 25mm spacers on their PP magnaride cars no problem, so something is rotten in Denmark.

It should be, but there are other mitigating factors. You may not know what someone else's shocks are (mono vs twin tube, Tire width or even brand, are they still riding stock or lowered (and what are the measurements they have pulled before and after lowering of the gap).

All these things will play into how far out you can go on your car. Measuring is the best way to know with the closest to 100 % certainty.

 

[2023EGM1]

In my case with magneride MACH 1 I had to shave 2-3 mm from the studs, that’s it.

 

[MontiCristo]

In my case with magneride MACH 1 I had to shave 2-3 mm from the studs, that’s it.

That’s what I’m seeing as well.

 

[kz]

I understand, but I'm being told by many guys on this forum that they run 25mm spacers on their PP magnaride cars no problem, so something is rotten in Denmark.

The stock Magneride studs are little longer so they stick out father through the bolt on spacer - depending on depth of the recess in your wheels' hub, the wheel will most likely not seat flush on the spacer (and instead bottom out on tips of the studs, if you bolt it this way, it will come off in a few miles)

This is why they're telling you that and they're right. See comment above about shaving off studs.
A lot of people are running slip on spacers with longer studs - I am currently running 28mm and used to run 30 mm.

 

[WItoTX]

I'm not sure, I called steeda and they told me i could not run spacers with my car due to the performance package and magnaride.

Just put extended studs on from ARP, then a slip on spacer.

I think street cars do just fine with bolt on's, but it's just double the work to check torques. Longer studs solves that problem.

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