Water/Meth Injection thread...

[EI]

I own a DevilsOwn Injection kit that I have never used before. Was thinking of getting rid of it, maybe I should keep it around.

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[Frogger]

I bought a kit from Brent at Wannaspeed.com handmade for preturbo. He figures in all the variables to eliminate blade erosion and IC pooling. This particular car will, I predict, make exceptional use of this technique because of the little overworked turbo. I'll let you all know how it works in a couple weeks.

 

[Frogger]

Here's part of my preturbo rig I'm going to install in my JLT intake, within 6" from turbo inlet.

 

[Frogger]

Beginning stages of building and rigging my preturbo meth sprayer into my JLT intake.

 

[CoyoteFiveO]

I bought a kit from Brent at Wannaspeed.com handmade for preturbo. He figures in all the variables to eliminate blade erosion and IC pooling. This particular car will, I predict, make exceptional use of this technique because of the little overworked turbo. I'll let you all know how it works in a couple weeks.

From what I read if you spray straight meth before the turbo it won't cause erosion of the turbo. Water is what causes it. Just what I read

 

[Frogger]

From what I read if you spray straight meth before the turbo it won't cause erosion of the turbo. Water is what causes it. Just what I read

I researched it a lot bro and water isn't a problem if you use the correct nozzle and set up. I paid a pretty buck to get it right. We'll see. If you use a redneck set up, you may be in for some problems.

 

[Frogger]

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[Marino]

I researched it a lot bro and water isn't a problem if you use the correct nozzle and set up. I paid a pretty buck to get it right. We'll see. If you use a redneck set up, you may be in for some problems.

 

[dragonacc]

I laughed.

 

[Frogger]

Yes, I found this to be very funny. Did I claim to be an expert? No. Can you learn this type of info by reading from other experts? Yes. Are you an expert? If so, offer some useful information. If not, shut it.

 

[dragonacc]

Yes, I found this to be very funny. Did I claim to be an expert? No. Can you learn this type of info by reading from other experts? Yes. Are you an expert? If so, offer some useful information. If not, shut it.

I can see where it probably wasn't all that funny to you.

I personally am looking forward to your results.

 

[fusion13]

The problem that you are going to have with this setup is that spraying pre turbo gives the charge air plenty of time to heat up again and does little to help with cylinder temps. A large reason to inject just pre throttle body or closer to the intake manifold is to allow for more cylinder cooling potential. Would you think about placing a nozzle further up in the charge system to help this out?

 

[Evil87GN]

I wouldn't want to chance it dropping out of suspension in the IC. Last turbo car I had H2O/meth injection on sprayed it into the up pipe, just before the TB. Better atomization, even better cooling effect due to being on the cold side of the IC, and much less time to drop out of suspension. A majority of the forced induction cars I've seen with a kit had it spraying just before the TB. I know that's where the Snow Performance kit is recommended to be mounted/installed.

I can ask Torrie @ Unleashed where he mounted his nozzles. He recently went to meth/water and car made some very nice numbers. Tune, cai, downpipe , meth kit and car put down 329/392.

 

[dadoctah]

frogger,
those that have done pre-turbo (correctly) got the desired results. work with a w/m knowledgeable tuner and datalog to make sure it's ok. EB 2.3 doesn't build boost ; it goes to full boost almost immediately at wot and stays there. So basically you're going to be spraying same amount at 3000rpm, 4k, 5k, 6k - You're the guinea pig here so you need to play with nozzle size and activation setpoint. it's been done before, it works. keep us updated.
patrick

 

[Frogger]

frogger,
those that have done pre-turbo (correctly) got the desired results. work with a w/m knowledgeable tuner and datalog to make sure it's ok. EB 2.3 doesn't build boost ; it goes to full boost almost immediately at wot and stays there. So basically you're going to be spraying same amount at 3000rpm, 4k, 5k, 6k - You're the guinea pig here so you need to play with nozzle size and activation setpoint. it's been done before, it works. keep us updated.
patrick

As Dill weed above pointed out, I'm no expert. What I've read from technical papers is that pre turbo injection adds benefit several ways. The one that holds the most interest for me now is that by cooling the turbo itself, it becomes more efficient-making it more efficient like a bigger turbo.

My system isn't progressive, so no worries there. I can however set minimum boost level.

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