VTT Stage 2 is HERE!!!

[VargasTurboTech]

Also just in case anyone is wondering this is the break down of the car currently.

2015 EBM PP AT

VTT Stage 2 Turbo
VTT Silicone passenger side intake kit
VTT Silicone Charge pipe kit with Turbosmart Raceport BOV
ATP catless DP
MRBP Street SS cat back Exhaust
ATM intercooler (thing is beast!)
UPR Dual catch can
Cobb AP
Thats it the rest of the car is 100% stock

Future plans:
We have a CP-e PI kit sitting here, throw that on the car, and tune on 100% E85 see what we can get.

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[Juben]

You should send me a pic of the passenger side intake on the car. I'm very intrigued by this!

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[Edkiefer]

It would be good in future if you could overlay stock baseline and stage1 over the stage 2 results for users to get good comparison.

 

[higdominator]

Future plans:
We have a CP-e PI kit sitting here, throw that on the car, and tune on 100% E85 see what we can get.

Powah and the beautiful scent of burnt table wine.:cheers:

 

[Tune+]

I was really hoping to see more on the 93. Hopefully we'll get that in time. I know it must be difficult to dwell on the 93 when you know with good fueling and meth you can really crank it up! That's where the fun is! Hopefully later we can see the fine tuning on the 93 closer to that magical 400/400 and a little more work on the curve?

Why were you hoping to see 400/400 on pump gas? Making that on a much bigger turbo is quite the task and risky, with all the data that was provided 380/400 is exactly what I thought it was going to make on pump. Actually, a little bit more honestly. These cars don't like standard pump gas fuel, they are very prone to detonation and are sensitive to adjust because of it. This is why it takes a minimum of E30 to make any good power on these things.

So, what I'm hearing is that with a built bottom end and meth, this turbo should be good for 400+/400+ on 93 very easily with little to worry about?

No need for a built block for 400/400.

You can get to 400whp on 93 but that's at your own risk.

Exactly.

What was the peak airflow(lbs/min) on the 93 tune?

What will you deduct from this data, I'm interested.

OOoo000oooOOO!!

Looks likt VTT is gonna need a 4Bar map sensor!!

https://www.fftec.com/item/2070/4BAR_TMAP_Sensor.html

Tony, give us a call!

-Anthony

He already has one of mine on the way. We are doing 100% e85 testing soon.

Also just in case anyone is wondering this is the break down of the car currently.

2015 EBM PP AT

VTT Stage 2 Turbo
VTT Silicone passenger side intake kit
VTT Silicone Charge pipe kit with Turbosmart Raceport BOV
ATP catless DP
MRBP Street SS cat back Exhaust
ATM intercooler (thing is beast!)
UPR Dual catch can
Cobb AP
Thats it the rest of the car is 100% stock

Future plans:
We have a CP-e PI kit sitting here, throw that on the car, and tune on 100% E85 see what we can get.

CORNNNN!!

 

[RubyRed15]

Why were you hoping to see 400/400 on pump gas? Making that on a much bigger turbo is quite the task and risky, with all the data that was provided 380/400 is exactly what I thought it was going to make on pump. Actually, a little bit more honestly.

So, maybe around 400/400?

 

[Tune+]

So, maybe around 400/400?

300/350 is AROUND 400, much more AROUND than 200/200 would be. LOL

 

[DIBS550]

So, if testing continues to go well on this and when I'm ready, I could probably get a "tame" 93 tune for daily driving around 350/380 in one slot and a 93/meth tune in another slot for when I want to play with around 400/400 and be relatively safe? I don't want to have to mix gas and e85 since that will probably go badly for me at some point when I make a mistake. I'm thinking adding a little meth would be safer for me.

 

[Joe_Stang]

So, maybe around 400/400?

The turbo will make 400 whp on 93 octane but you are possibly reducing engine life lol. It's best just to add some e85 or meth to safely make the power. It will easily do that or more on E30 I'm sure.

 

[RubyRed15]

The turbo will make 400 whp on 93 octane but you are possibly reducing engine life lol. It's best just to add some e85 or meth to safely make the power. It will easily do that or more on E30 I'm sure.

I understand. It was a joke. He said "380, maybe a little more".

 

[jbailer]

Why were you hoping to see 400/400 on pump gas? Making that on a much bigger turbo is quite the task and risky, with all the data that was provided 380/400 is exactly what I thought it was going to make on pump. Actually, a little bit more honestly. These cars don't like standard pump gas fuel, they are very prone to detonation and are sensitive to adjust because of it. This is why it takes a minimum of E30 to make any good power on these things.

Completely understood. The reason I wanted 400/400 was from WAY back in the beginning when our EBs were new, I pulled that number out of my azz as a target. After seeing those numbers passed with proper fueling (and the block holding up) and then hearing about this amazing turbo, I thought MAYBE this will be possible. Then when we saw the data yesterday being VERY close to that and hearing it needed new plugs I again thought maybe with some new plugs and final tweaking it will hit that mark! TBH though, I don't really care if it is exactly, it's just a number and 380 is pretty damn close.

I'm not going to an alternative fueling for a DD that I fill up every week. I'm also not doing meth on a DD, I've had quite a bit of experience with those over the years (I'm not young) and don't want to deal with all that. Yes they have much more reliable systems over the past 10-15 years but still too much of a pain. I've even done a system where I used my windshield washer tank for meth so I had a low fluid indicator but then I didn't have windshield washer fluid. E85 is not available near me and I'm not mixing additives with every tank of gas. I'm not racing the car, it's not a weekend extra so it will only get 93 and whatever that can safely produce.

 

[VargasTurboTech]

Couple people asked for pics of the passenger side inlet. It cleans the engine bay up quite nicely. Keep in mind the cold side charge pipe will be changed, BOV will go on the side closest to the motor, and on the other side closer to the TB will be a bung for a meth nozzle. We sent a few changes back to the manufacture for the inlet, and a few other things, but they fit amazing for samples. Looking forward to getting these out there. We added an nice built in bung for people running the UPR Dual catch can, if not it will come with a plug to plug it off. Side note, we did see UPR just released a very cool clean side catch can, and it sits in the same spot as our passenger inlet, so looks like only one is an option...:( It will also come with a harness extender for the IAT sensor.

E30 is in the car, may try to turn it up today, if not, next week.

 

[b00sted]

Very nice job! I'm really enjoying this build!

 

[RubyRed15]

Is the length any shorter than the normal route?

 

[VargasTurboTech]

Is the length any shorter than the normal route?

Much much shorter at least a good 18-24" shorter. Nothing will keep IAT temps low like a nice set of silicone inlets, and charge pipes. They just do not absorb the ambient heat from around them, or from what is passing through them like metal does. We have used them for a very long time on all our BMW applications, with excellent results.

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