Voodoo Theory

[Pablo GT350]

Have you ever driven a 458 Italia? Thats no 4 cyl sound my friend. I could rev that to 9k all day long and never get tired of that beautiful music.

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[Twin Turbo]

Have you ever driven a 458 Italia? Thats no 4 cyl sound my friend. I could rev that to 9k all day long and never get tired of that beautiful music.

Agreed, they do sound.............different. It's almost superbike-like, with added balls. However, it's certainly not the traditional American V8 bellow.........and it's the latter we've heard from the GT350 prototypes.

So, that leaves me to believe those prototypes are either running placeholder Coyotes 5.0s (meaning the FPC engine isn't ready to be tested on the road) or this is the rumoured CPC version of "Voodoo"........ie a 5.2 Coyote based engine with a traditional crank.

 

[Pablo GT350]

Agree with that too. And I bet it wont suck,

 

[Michael]

Have you ever driven a 458 Italia? Thats no 4 cyl sound my friend. I could rev that to 9k all day long and never get tired of that beautiful music.

I don't know why people ask questions like this. No, I've not driven a 458 Italia, and I doubt you have either. I have driven a 328 and a 355. I don't drive at 9K all day (or 6K or 7K or 8K all day either), and while they can sound good in their own way at high rpm, the sound doesn't anything for me in day to day normal low RPM driving. The cross plane American V8, especially the Coyote 5.0, sounds better at all RPMs to MY ears, and probably most people's ears.

People buy American performance cars with V8's for the sound, just like people buy Harley's with V-twins for the sound. No mystery there. Personally, I don't think Ford should mess with the sound, just like I don't think Harley would ever mess with their signature sound, which they actually patented. It could turn a lot of people off.

Michael

 

[Pablo GT350]

It was rhetorical. So here is where I say that I doubt you have ever driven a Ferrari
Just as well evidently as it sounds like u would not appreciate the experience.

 

[Grimace427]

People buy American performance cars with V8's for the sound, just like people buy Harley's with V-twins for the sound. No mystery there. Personally, I don't think Ford should mess with the sound, just like I don't think Harley would ever mess with their signature sound, which they actually patented. It could turn a lot of people off.

Michael

Ford already messed with the sound of the Coyote, dropping the traditional small-block firing order to return to the original flathead firing order. Most 2011+ 5.0 owners know how much more difficult it is to get that perfect exhaust note than prior models, especially the classic 302.

 

[Stuntman]

I for one, love the sound of FPCs and would love to see one in a Mustang.

 

[nametoshowothers]

I for one, love the sound of FPCs and would love to see one in a Mustang.

Agree. As well I like the cross plane

 

[Falc'man]

Ford already messed with the sound of the Coyote, dropping the traditional small-block firing order to return to the original flathead firing order. Most 2011+ 5.0 owners know how much more difficult it is to get that perfect exhaust note than prior models, especially the classic 302.

Totally agree with you there, I much prefer the previous modular's note - one of the best sounding V8s ever.

Flat planes I'm not a fan of but if you get the chance please watch Chris Harris' take on the new Porsche 918; it sounds beautiful. I think it's the best sounding FPC I've heard - certainly much nicer than the recent tinny-sounding V8s from Ferrari and BMW.

[ame]

Also agree with Michael - for general use I'd much prefer the CPC; you could dawdle around at under 2500rpm with all the music ever needed.

 

[Gman11Gt]

cam swap solves many sounding issues..gives you that nice old school thump.

 

[Grimace427]

Totally agree with you there, I much prefer the previous modular's note - one of the best sounding V8s ever.

Flat planes I'm not a fan of but if you get the chance please watch Chris Harris' take on the new Porsche 918; it sounds beautiful. I think it's the best sounding FPC I've heard - certainly much nicer than the recent tinny-sounding V8s from Ferrari and BMW.

Also agree with Michael - for general use I'd much prefer the CPC; you could dawdle around at under 2500rpm with all the music ever needed.

I'm not really worried that the FPC rumers are true anyway.

cam swap solves many sounding issues..gives you that nice old school thump.

Not with Ti-VCT they won't. Changing cams on a Coyote doesn't hardly change the sound at all. It's all in the tune.

 

[Gman11Gt]

I'm not really worried that the FPC rumers are true anyway.





Not with Ti-VCT they won't. Changing cams on a Coyote doesn't hardly change the sound at all. It's all in the tune.

Your absolutely right, the ones I have seen where bigger cam swaps on the 3v 4.6. Those sound EXCELLENT.

The new c7 Vette sounds amazing with a bigger cam. It has that muscle car sound of an American V8 but when you let it loose it sounds like an exotic sports car.

 

[Grimace427]

Your absolutely right, the ones I have seen where bigger cam swaps on the 3v 4.6. Those sound EXCELLENT.

The new c7 Vette sounds amazing with a bigger cam. It has that muscle car sound of an American V8 but when you let it loose it sounds like an exotic sports car.

The 4.6 can be made to sound awesome with very little effort. Even just a flowmaster catback sounds great. The Coyote requires a very mindfull approach to eliminate rasp and drone.

The C7 Corvette to me doesn't sound very good at all. Compared to a traditional Chevy smallblock the recent 'Vettes sound nasally. I've heard a cammed C6 with full exhaust and yes that sounded absolutely bitchin'. I still haven't heard a good sounding C7 yet.

 

[Melino]

I remember the first hints of people discussing Voodoo on FIN and here... for those who didn't follow the rumors, here are some very telling posts early on. I think it makes sense to go back to the original source since so many layers of bad info get tacked on over time. Notice it matches up with some of the info from guys here who know a thing or two:

A friend of a friend recently visited the dyno room at Mahle Industries (was Sealed Power, I believe). According to this guy, they are currently testing a new Ford engine nicknamed "Voodoo" that is a tad over 5 liters in size. The claim made by the folks involved in the testing is that it produces over 600 hp WITHOUT turbo or supercharging. Just wondering if anyone knows if there is such an engine under development... and if so, what application?

This post was removed by the user (my guess is someone at Mahle got wind of it and wanted it taken down) so I take this one seriously.

the GT350 does indeed have a 5.2 ("voodoo"), and it will have over 500hp.
revs/power were brought down to sustain longevity so yeh they can make heaps of power.

GT will have less than 450hp.

My bet is this is the most accurate info we have so far.

Ford has lofty goals for a Boss like V8 coming in less than 2 years.
It will spin far past current 5.0L, and will be limited in production volume.
That's all you get for now.

The "limited production volume" I hope is not referring to a special edition limited run but just a lower volume GT350.

The SVT Cobra will have a 5.2L naturally aspirated V8 with no engine cover. The reason for that is because the new styling (and Euro safety regs) mean a supercharger is not feasible as far as fitting under the hood goes.

There will be further option packages for the SVT car to make it even more hardcore and track-oriented

Turns out the hood didn't really come down all that much. Do we actually know if this is true?



Here is where the FPC rumors started by the way.....
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/2015-mustang-in-763.html?t=763

Given when this article was written I'd say it was pretty accurate for its time (just basic facts). Still, I'm not holding my breath on that one. There's been very little evidence of a FPC.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

The 4.6 can be made to sound awesome with very little effort. Even just a flowmaster catback sounds great. The Coyote requires a very mindfull approach to eliminate rasp and drone.

AMEN! The Flowmasters I have on my Coyote sound great, but have a TERRIBLE drone at 1800 - 2000 RPM. It's at its worst at 70mph on the highway, so I have to go 60 - 65 or over 75 to get around that drone. It's so loud and almost like a natural harmonic that it rattles the car and you can't hear yourself think.

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