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[emh87]

yeah looking at the dyno i dont see any lag on the torque curve..

Wow that seems like very smooth power.

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[kcc0521]

yeah looking at the dyno i dont see any lag on the torque curve..

What car is that dyno graph from? What were the mods and gas?

 

[z06psi]

Here it is.

Turbo - much more to install and much more invasive, expensive; potential to make a lot of power

Centri - easy to install and some kits require no factory modification at all; cheaper but power will be limited by your head unit if you plan to increase; intake temps are lower than PD

PD - somewhat invasive but heatsoaking is always an issue; midrange on price; lots of down low torque though


All three will get you to any goal under 1000 rwhp. I chose Centri for two reasons. Easy to return to stock and no heat soaking.


I left specific manufacturers off on purpose so the butt hurting wont start.

 

[Nomad]

Twins weed out the riff raff. You get what you pay for.

 

[kcc0521]

Here it is.

Turbo - much more to install and much more invasive, expensive; potential to make a lot of power

Centri - easy to install and some kits require no factory modification at all; cheaper but power will be limited by your head unit if you plan to increase; intake temps are lower than PD

PD - somewhat invasive but heatsoaking is always an issue; midrange on price; lots of down low torque though


All three will get you to any goal under 1000 rwhp. I chose Centri for two reasons. Easy to return to stock and no heat soaking.







Thanks for the info. How bad is th3 heat soak on the positive displac3ment? Does lots of timing in heat? The heats oak is bad enough on motor.

 

[z06psi]

Here it is.

Turbo - much more to install and much more invasive, expensive; potential to make a lot of power

Centri - easy to install and some kits require no factory modification at all; cheaper but power will be limited by your head unit if you plan to increase; intake temps are lower than PD

PD - somewhat invasive but heatsoaking is always an issue; midrange on price; lots of down low torque though


All three will get you to any goal under 1000 rwhp. I chose Centri for two reasons. Easy to return to stock and no heat soaking.







Thanks for the info. How bad is th3 heat soak on the positive displac3ment? Does lots of timing in heat? The heats oak is bad enough on motor.

If you are going to be hotlapping at the 1/4 track or run any road course track it can be significant. The C7 Z06 boys are finding that out now.

 

[kcc0521]

If you are going to be hotlapping at the 1/4 track or run any road course track it can be significant. The C7 Z06 boys are finding that out now.

Are you happy with the procharger? What made you choose it over vortech or paxton? Have you run at the track yet. I really want to see mid 10s on sticky tires with full weight on pump gas.

 

[z06psi]

Are you happy with the procharger? What made you choose it over vortech or paxton? Have you run at the track yet. I really want to see mid 10s on sticky tires with full weight on pump gas.

I will tell you soon. Installing it next weekend.

 

[kcc0521]

I look forward to the results.

 

[cp5899]

I've built and street driven two small block ford turbo cars. I love the turbo route and would build my own setup if I didn't just spend 45k on this new car. I've done my turbo setups on a lightning and a fox body setup back in 2000-2002 and they were awesome. I used t3/t4 hybrids so there was no lag to really speak of. I made more hp and tq with less rpm out of the motor than with the centri superchargers I had before building the turbo setups.

The down side in my opinion, was heat so the turbo blanket was needed. They are more involved on the install and the biggest issue for me was tuning. With a supercharger boost has a direct relationship with engine rpm. With the turbo it's based on engine load. I always had tuning issues with the transition into boost with the turbos, but those were the days of fmu's which sucked!!

I did find the turbos were easier on the motor and got better gas mileage if that matters. I broke the snout off a crankshaft once on a supercharger setup. Possibly due to the tension on the crank from having the belt so tight to elementate belt slip.

All that being said I'm probably going with a supercharger on my new mustang because it's so much easier of an intall. I don't have near the drive and motivation I did 15 years ago. Lol

 

[mustang_guy]

Vortech jt-b, for me. If i wasn't going with that blower itd be a paxton novi 2200sl. Only two centri blower choices worth looking at in my opinion. Jt-b pictured below.

 

[cp5899]

Looks like a nice setup for sure. I Think I'm going to wait for the Paxton and then choose between Paxton and vortech.

 

[kcc0521]

Looks like a nice setup for sure. I Think I'm going to wait for the Paxton and then choose between Paxton and vortech.

Is the base paxton head unit better than the vortech for the 2015? I can't make up my mind between vortech, whipple, turbo, paxton or procharger.

 

[mustang_guy]

Is the base paxton head unit better than the vortech for the 2015? I can't make up my mind between vortech, whipple, turbo, paxton or procharger.

from what ive seen, the Paxton novi 2200sl isn't really any better then the standard vortech jt. But for right now Jt-B seems to be king of centri. Its a 1200rwhp capable. Personally for my goals id rather not be running a maxed out novi 2200 when I can get a bit bigger and not push it as hard. Its only a grand more for the JT-B over the paxton through beefcake. Ive never ran a centri before. But after looking into centri, I wouldn't ever run a PD blower. I always ran turbos before this is a bit of new world for me.

The novi can make just a bit over 1000rwhp. That seems to be tweaked to the max though. What ive disliked about PD blowers on my termi the short time it had a blower on it, was the power was always right there. Wasn't great for hooking as well as turbo on the street. I wasn't a fan of the blower that came on my 14 gt500 I sold. The centri seems a bit better for a street or track drag racer, to me at least. I would think PD's would be great for roll racing if someone was into that. I wanted to do a single turbo jpc kit, but they don't have a kit that fits the s550s. Nor do they have plans to. I asked. Im not a fan of how much the good twin turbo kits cost so im chosing centri this time.

 

[mustang_guy]

This is the novi kit incase you were curious. I can't justify 14g for twins when i can have a jt-b that will make similar power for 4g less. Whatever you pick, im sure you'll be happy. Force induction is great.

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