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Does it happen with the car shifting itself?
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Andy13186
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Yea I did some more testing, it happens in drive in normal mode too. Also in sport mode with the paddles not activated.
pretty weird. I think its some type of torque sensor because it only does it on good traction surfaces (not wet), and only 1-2 shift.
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Happens to my 6r80 once in a while from 2 to 3 shift. AED Tune. I was told it's most likely Traction Control instead of advanceTrac. I break traction all the time on WOT from 1 to 2 shift. But there is no bogging - just a quick chirp on the tires. On 2 to 3, it's chirp and then bog.
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I paddle shift 99% of the time, I hate autos if im not controlling it. I had manuals since 2008 and only went auto this time because its faster and because I broke my 2011 Mustangs Mt82 and think the mt82 sucks. I still like controlling this auto and choosing what gear I am in without having it depend on throttle manipulation.
It still has the issue with it automatically shifting too though..
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yes, sport mode paddle shifting with cutouts open.. and I love it. Not sure whats surprising about that it offers nearly as much control as a manual with less shifting hassle and faster shifts. It also automatically downshifts at certain speed thresholds in this mode so its not like you have to downshift 10 times when coming to a stop.
I know its a tune issue but I have had 5 revisions and 30 logs and I still have the issue so IDK what to do. I may have to just go back to the stock tune and return the nguage to lethal or switch it out for a lund Nguage or some different tune I suppose. Im seeing what lethal will suggest
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You're still not in control... If the ecu doesnt think you should shift it wont.
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Andy13186
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Not sure what you mean but you can upshift and downshift at any time to any reasonable gear (for your current speed that wouldnt lug or stall a manual car) with any throttle position. Sure you cant launch in 10th, but you can launch in 2nd and bounce the limiter in any gear you want if paddle mode is activated. You can short shift at full throttle at like 5k rpm if you want etc etc. In sport mode with paddles activated it will never automatically upshift, youll be stuck in the gear you chose and hitting the redline if you floor it to the redline and dont shift, and if you let off it will stay in that gear until you get to a speed that is too low for the gear and would stall or severely lug the engine. You can downshift with 0 throttle input to any gear which wouldnt be too close to the redline for your given speed. It is more control than depending on throttle position and mode to choose your gear when coming up on a corner. I have had many manual cars and I feel like paddle shifting gives you more control actually since its faster and doesnt require heel toeing - it just rev matches and you can keep both hands on the wheel and concentrate more on your throttle and steering.
Basically , if the ECU wont let you shift then your input was a mistake which could not possibly have been good in any situation and would also have been a potentially fatal mistake on a manual car.
Most manual cars have this feature also, although possibly mechanically. I dont think you could shift into 1st, 2nd, 3rd or reverse at 120 mph in a manual, and you definitely would not want to do that. You also cant successfully let the clutch out in 6th at 0 mph without stalling or an insane amount of slipping and unnecessary wear.
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Must be torque limiters or something.
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Put it in first. Take off lightly, and upshift at 2500... It'll hold first.
You're still not in full control.
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That is true but if you plan to shift to 2nd gear below like 5 mph then you can just start in 2nd gear. I agree its weird that you can start in 2nd gear from a dead stop but cant shift to 2nd below like 5 mph and I dont actually know the reasoning behind that. This lack of control is not applicable in any type of performance driving that I can imagine though since shifting to 2nd gear at 2500 would just make you slower and you do have the option of starting in 2nd.
Still waiting for PBD to try to figure this out, a different one of their tuners may look at the tune next week from what I heard.
Does anyone else with a PBD or any other brand tune and a 10 speed auto have this issue when hitting 2nd gear power is killed for multiple seconds with advancetrac fully disabled?
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No different, why would it be different? You keep your RPM in the same area that you would want as you would with a manual. I think it lessens brake pad wear too since you engine brake a bit more similar to having a manual. I got like 9.5 mpg on my manual 630 rwhp cts-v on e60 and I get about 11.5 on e85 on my 2018 mustang, 15.7 on 93 octane all with lots of spirited driving and WOT 7500+ pulls etc.
I also got around 15 mpg on my manual 93 octane tuned 2011 mustang gt. I got 17 mpg on my auto 1999 maxima that didnt have paddle shifters (back in like 2003-2007), 12 mpg on my auto 93 octane tuned 2011 6500 lb fx4 f150. Just depends on how you drive and I mainly drive for fun.
I suppose its more like 85% of the time im paddle shifting, its whenever I am driving for fun and the weather is good. In traffic or bad weather I usually wont bother.
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