Talk me into a centrifugal

[blakeman8192]

He's not sold on the ESS "hype".

That's fair enough. Just wondering if there's something that makes Procharger better (maybe just their proven track record)?

No wrong choices if you are doing a max-effort drag build. Centri, PD, turbos... all will deliver MORE than you could imagine.

For a street build/occasional track day, PD blower or turbos with lots of cooling. Centri is boring AF on the street. Sorry... my experience with one SUCKED. Belt slip all the time, no power at all until 5k rpm, LOUD ass bypass valve ALWAYS open unless you are WOT. Pass!

Flame suit on. lol

For me, driving a manual 600+ torque PD blown car on the street was a total buzzkill. No street legal tire in the world will hook on an shitty road surface with that much low end power. I know it's a driver issue at the end of the day, but trying to launch from anything under 30mph was such a pain in the ass that it was just no fun half the time.

Turbos are definitely the endgame build, but they also have a lot of cost, complexity, cooling concerns, and all for the torque curve to kick in suddenly and end up shredding the tires anyway.

To each their own for sure, there's no wrong way to go with boost. Just trade offs. But I love centris because they're simple, easier on the drivetrain, and give you a chance to get rolling before they kick in.

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[engineermike]

For me, driving a manual 600+ torque PD blown car on the street was a total buzzkill. No street legal tire in the world will hook on an shitty road surface with that much low end power. I know it's a driver issue at the end of the day, but trying to launch from anything under 30mph was such a pain in the ass that it was just no fun half the time.

PD blower with torque-by-gear FTW!

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Genuine question - why would Procharger have been the better choice?

The procharger a higher quality kit. In these economic times, cost is important. Therefore I understand rolling with the more economical choice.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

He's not sold on the ESS "hype".

Folks say they make power and is cost effective. If thats what it is then its solid. Cheap/reliable/fast. Pick two!

 

[engineermike]

Cheap/reliable/fast. Pick two!

Due to inflation, you can only pick one now.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Due to inflation, you can only pick one now.

LOL

 

[furdfan2018]

For me, driving a manual 600+ torque PD blown car on the street was a total buzzkill.

Ive never heard anyone say this, ever. Buzzkill? Come on, mang!

You needed better tires bud!

 

[blakeman8192]

Ive never heard anyone say this, ever. Buzzkill? Come on, mang!

You needed better tires bud!

Had NT555RIIs, lots better than stock but still couldn't hook below 30 except on a hot summer day.

 

[Angrey]

PD blower with torque-by-gear FTW!

If you'd start making this an option, I'm quite certain there's plenty of people who would jump on board.

 

[Angrey]

Due to inflation, you can only pick one now.

And that one is cheap. The other two are more than we can afford.

 

[engineermike]

If you'd start making this an option, I'm quite certain there's plenty of people who would jump on board.

@mejohn50 will gladly show anyone with PCMtec exactly how to do it, just like I posted exactly how to boost fuel pump voltage without a bap a few days ago.

 

[mejohn50]

@mejohn50 will gladly show anyone with PCMtec exactly how to do it, just like I posted exactly how to boost fuel pump voltage without a bap a few days ago.

Anyone who is truly interested in this can see the basics of what I’ve done here. If anyone wants to go deeper than that, I’m always open to a DM to talk more specifics. It’s not that what I’m doing is secret, it’s that there are details that would need to be worked through in order to make it all function correctly.

 

[Brevin]

Folks say they make power and is cost effective. If thats what it is then its solid. Cheap/reliable/fast. Pick two!

Most folks go with ESS because for the first time you can pick all three options

 

[WildHorse]

It will be a TON easier on parts

Really ? IF xx horsepower with 12:1 requires 8lbs of boost, and the same engine with the same xx horsepower but with 9.5 requires 12lbs of boost, how exactly is 9.5 easier on parts ? Off boost the engine really doesn't give a shit, but will be more efficient with the higher CR. Lower CR you'll need more timing. Then you'll need different cam adjustments, then, then, then.

We're not talking 6-71 blowers here which put a massive amount of heat into the engine ha-ha.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Most folks go with ESS because for the first time you can pick all three options

Gotta love sales jargon. When something sounds too good to be true... Well you know what they say.

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