Supercharge the GT350?

[Grimace427]

I would gladly pay you a finder's fee for one of those!!! :cheers:

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[blitzburgh]

Lame. Mine has eleventy-billion horsepowers. :ford:

All that matters is does it put pretty little ponies on the ground when you hit the unlock button.

 

[Grimace427]

All that matters is does it put pretty little ponies on the ground when you hit the unlock button.

Haha nope mine is a 2011. Maybe I should start a thread to see if the projectors car be retrofitted!:lol:

 

[Sered]

Another S/C M3 checking in. I'll be in on the second year GT350 orders

 

[V00D00]

laughint at the weight comments. whats a s/c kit weight? 40-50lbs? ok, here ya go, titanium exhaust, dropped 20-30 lbs minimum, lithium battery, shaved 60lbs, 8 psi. added 150hp.. air-air IC for a roadcourse car, good tuning=win for everybody!

 

[Grimace427]

laughint at the weight comments. whats a s/c kit weight? 40-50lbs? ok, here ya go, titanium exhaust, dropped 20-30 lbs minimum, lithium battery, shaved 60lbs, 8 psi. added 150hp.. air-air IC for a roadcourse car, good tuning=win for everybody!

PD blowers can top 100lbs with the heat exchanger, coolant and tanks, and all hardware. Don't forget that is all weight added to the front of the car and up high relative to the center of gravity.

 

[V00D00]

I dont think a PD blower woud work well with this, a centri is better suited, in my opinion.
the air-water is why a lot of oems have larger heat soak issues. Great for short blasts, but from experience a2a is much better suited for longer realistic driving conditions.

so back to my point, 40-50lbs tops, and nothing horrible considering 1 of 1000 drivers could use the car near its full potential and notice the additional weight.

 

[Sered]

I dont think a PD blower woud work well with this, a centri is better suited, in my opinion.
the air-water is why a lot of oems have larger heat soak issues. Great for short blasts, but from experience a2a is much better suited for longer realistic driving conditions.

so back to my point, 40-50lbs tops, and nothing horrible considering 1 of 1000 drivers could use the car near its full potential and notice the additional weight.

My thoughts exactly. The only real complaint I can forsee is heatsoak problems. On the E9X M3 platform, S/C cars can perform worse than N/A cars when it comes to the track as the tiny manifold-integrated A/L IC units many of the aftermarket units use sit inside big metal manifolds and don't have the flow or capacity to handle a track day. Some of the newer kits use a front-mount air-air along with a more efficient blower and tend to do much better.

If you're wanting to accentuate the GT350's natural powerband, a centri unit with a FMIC will do quite well IMO. They do the same thing for the M3s, it provides a very flat torque band and makes power all the way out to redline in a very predictable manner (and the high revving is just so much fun).

 

[adrift]

I really think the intent of this car is to be naturally aspirated. If you'd like to charge it, it would be better to wait until Ford re-introduces the GT500, which I'm expecting and hoping will be for '17 at the latest.

 

[Sered]

I really think the intent of this car is to be naturally aspirated. If you'd like to charge it, it would be better to wait until Ford re-introduces the GT500, which I'm expecting and hoping will be for '17 at the latest.

High-revving n/a motors lend themselves well to forced induction. They tend to have far better top-end breathing characteristics vs oem forced induction motors. A high-revving turbo car or centri car is a hoot to drive.

 

[Degen]

Talked to a Shelby dealer this weekend, went to a car show as part of the local Ford group. He said there's a company that is going to get a 350 and start working on supercharging it, I think he said they already have it. He said they will keep pushing trying to get the HP up until pretty much the point when it blows. Said they have blown up cars before. Can't remember who it was. It wasn't Shelby American.

 

[MizzouRT]

I dont think a PD blower woud work well with this, a centri is better suited, in my opinion.
the air-water is why a lot of oems have larger heat soak issues. Great for short blasts, but from experience a2a is much better suited for longer realistic driving conditions.

so back to my point, 40-50lbs tops, and nothing horrible considering 1 of 1000 drivers could use the car near its full potential and notice the additional weight.

What is your source for the 40-50 pounds? When I look up the Procharger for the 5.0 the shipping weight is 120 pounds. Even if the cardboard packaging weighs 20 pounds, that leaves around 100 pounds for the supercharger, intercooler, tubing, and brackets.

Even if the packaging is 40 pounds, that puts an additional 80 pounds on the front axle and higher up where it has a lot of leverage. That means a supercharged GT350 will be slower in the corners, probably by a signifcant amount.

Then you have the heat soak issues. Chevy wanted to use a large displacement naturally aspirated motor in the new Z06 but couldn't get it to pass emissions, so their second choice was supercharging. But now the Z06 makes one lap and then starts pulling power, as confirmed by Randy Pobst in this month's MT HTH vs the GTR.

 

[supersnake94]

After reading the post, I thought I would give some input. Not sure if it will be worth it but here it goes:

Take a look at what Wiseco built: a 351 Coyote short block that was based off of the Coyote. 2000HP it can handle and nearly 8000rpm on stock heads I think think the bore isn't going to be an issue if anyone is going to go the boost route.

http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories...in-forces-to-create-bigger-better-351-coyote/

Even though Voodoo is different from Coyote, the motors do have their similarities. Regardless, if anybody is going to go FI with the GT350, I agree to look into stronger internals that will be able to handle the additional power. I also believe that if anybody is going to boost the 5.2, go the turbo route and start off with a low boost and see what other companies and tuners will do later on after that. Also to the folks who say that supercharging it will decrease the value of the car, Jamal Hameedi said that this is going to be a mass produced car like the GT500. There are a lot of GT500s running around with either a Whipple, TVS or twin turbo/twincharged setup on the car. I can see Ford also trying to go for an Ecoboost V8 like a Coyote or a revamped 4.6 to meet performance and emission standards. A lot of factory boosted V8s are now starting to show up on the scene. Finally weight will always be an issue when going forced induction so it will be hard to get around that and for heat soak, it depends on where the turbos are mounted. All in all, it depends on if the owner or the performance shop know what they are doing in order to meet their goals.

Honestly I am also concerned about sound too because turbos usually mellow the sound out a bit. but knowing companies like Kooks collaborated with Armageddon for that turbo setup, I think that won't be a big issue.

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[Grimace427]

After reading the post, I thought I would give some input. Not sure if it will be worth it but here it goes:

Take a look at what Wiseco built: a 351 Coyote short block that was based off of the Coyote. 2000HP it can handle and nearly 8000rpm on stock heads I think think the bore isn't going to be an issue if anyone is going to go the boost route.

http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories...in-forces-to-create-bigger-better-351-coyote/

That setup was made years ago but I still haven't seen anybody outside of a professional shop actually build and run one.

 

[sqidd]

..... considering 1 of 1000 drivers could use the car near its full potential and notice the additional weight.

So 999 out of a 1000 don't need a blower either using your logic.;)

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