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[GTthree50]

Thanks for the feedback.

It's definitely one of those things where once you see it, you can't unsee it! It sounds like blending is an acceptable practice. I'll consider moving forward with that in mind.

Is it ridiculous to assume a perfect match can be made between the existing paint and new paint?

I've had paint and body people tell me that white is the single most difficult color to match, so that is where the eye of a good painter comes into play. If it were me though I'd prefer not to have the paint blended. The blend area is usually not prepped for painting since that would destroy the paint in the first place and the blend is akin to overspray though in a much nicer way but it can prove to be significantly less durable and is definitely prone to the clear peeling. That has been my own experience in the past. It could vary.

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[FDHog]

There's no eye involved. A good paint shop has the computer software to match any paint. I had the rear bumper skin on my C7 Vette repainted and could not tell the difference. You think white is hard, try Red.
Why did you go to the dealer for this? Your better choice would've been a high end body shop.

 

[GTthree50]

There's no eye involved. A good paint shop has the computer software to match any paint. I had the rear bumper skin on my C7 Vette repainted and could not tell the difference. You think white is hard, try Red.
Why did you go to the dealer for this? Your better choice would've been a high end body shop.

While a computer match in all likelihood should yield a perfect match white is much harder to get right than red. The problem with red is that a Pepsi ted red panel will fade at a significantly different rate. It will look perfect the day it comes out of the shop but after time exposed to UV it will not match at all.

 

[Mustang5ohMan]

I heard white was e z to work with

 

[Inthehighdesert]

Spot painted panels rarely match up to existing adjoining panels. You can take the same base left over from a repaint from a few months before and it will not match. There are many variables that affect that. Gun pressure, humidity, fan pattern, distance to the surface, etc. That’s just the base coat. Next issue up is the clear. A properly done repair is a blend. A blend allows the tech to do there overlap from the main panel and move that color in to the adjoining panel or panels to shade the variation in color. A properly prepped panel for a blend has zero difference in adhesion. As for color eyes getting the color exact, there only as good as the programming and should only be used to get a base starting point. The reality is many techs have the skill to do this properly but it takes time. Unfortunately very few want to pay for the time it takes to do it. Insurance for sure doesn’t. Where a good painter is worth the cost to the shop is how good there eye is and how well they make those adjustments.

 

[460Fred]

Spot painted panels rarely match up to existing adjoining panels. You can take the same base left over from a repaint from a few months before and it will not match. There are many variables that affect that. Gun pressure, humidity, fan pattern, distance to the surface, etc. That’s just the base coat. Next issue up is the clear. A properly done repair is a blend. A blend allows the tech to do there overlap from the main panel and move that color in to the adjoining panel or panels to shade the variation in color. A properly prepped panel for a blend has zero difference in adhesion. As for color eyes getting the color exact, there only as good as the programming and should only be used to get a base starting point. The reality is many techs have the skill to do this properly but it takes time. Unfortunately very few want to pay for the time it takes to do it. Insurance for sure doesn’t. Where a good painter is worth the cost to the shop is how good there eye is and how well they make those adjustments.

Well said!

 

[Mghoward74]

There are 4 or more different paint codes for each year color. It has nothing to do with blending or lighting, or a painters touch. All it takes is some due diligence. Get the sample color chart for your year vehicle. Place the color sample chart next to your car, select the matching color. Its simple

 

[Big Ernie McCracken]

There are 4 or more different paint codes for each year color. It has nothing to do with blending or lighting, or a painters touch. All it takes is some due diligence. Get the sample color chart for your year vehicle. Place the color sample chart next to your car, select the matching color. Its simple

It isn’t that simple, In an extremely rare case you might luck out with a paint chip. The paint chip is a starting point and almost always needs worked with to get a good color match. We deal with this stuff every day.

 

[Mghoward74]

It isn’t that simple, In an extremely rare case you might luck out with a paint chip. The paint chip is a starting point and almost always needs worked with to get a good color match. We deal with this stuff every day.

Agree to disagree. I deal with it also. I can post a pic of 4 different oxford white color codes.

 

[Spacebird]

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. This is not a blending issue, this is a Ford issue.

Oxford White is not one color, and never has been despite what Ford, PPG, and the other paint companies tell you. On our GT350s Oxford White is a bright white. On a 2001 Ranger it’s a different color despite identical name and paint code. If you buy Ford Oxford White touch up paint it’s a cream white, not a bright white.

In the name of Shelby himself, do not let any body shop blend the cream “Oxford White” off-the-shelf paint with the bright white “Oxford White” on your surrounding panels. It’ll look like crap.

Source: 30 year body guy at one of the biggest Ford dealers in Texas. After multiple failed attempts to match the factory paint with Ford touch-up, Dupli-Color, etc., I went into the dealer’s body shop seeing if they could mix me a match. Before even telling him what color he said, “Let me guess, Oxford White?”

 

[460Fred]

Agree to disagree. I deal with it also. I can post a pic of 4 different oxford white color codes.

This is interesting. Please post the four.

 

[460Fred]

I wish I had seen this thread earlier. This is not a blending issue, this is a Ford issue.

Oxford White is not one color, and never has been despite what Ford, PPG, and the other paint companies tell you. On our GT350s Oxford White is a bright white. On a 2001 Ranger it’s a different color despite identical name and paint code. If you buy Ford Oxford White touch up paint it’s a cream white, not a bright white.

In the name of Shelby himself, do not let any body shop blend the cream “Oxford White” off-the-shelf paint with the bright white “Oxford White” on your surrounding panels. It’ll look like crap.

Source: 30 year body guy at one of the biggest Ford dealers in Texas. After multiple failed attempts to match the factory paint with Ford touch-up, Dupli-Color, etc., I went into the dealer’s body shop seeing if they could mix me a match. Before even telling him what color he said, “Let me guess, Oxford White?”

Interesting as well. Giving a name to a color and attaching a paint code to said name with different tints is plain weird. I’m guessing the year of car would be the differentiating factor.
Curious how Dr Color Chip approaches this problem.

 

[Mghoward74]

I dont post much. But when i do.....i post facts...

Enjoy my friend.

Btw...this is why companies that send out pre-painted parts are doing the customer a disservice. Not their fault, OR is it?

Ive seen some companies charge an extra $600 to color match, because they cant find the right code. And to think theryre supposed to be professionals...

Lmk if anyone needs any help with paint codes, etc...

Respectfully

 

[Dr. Norts]

I had my hood repainted on my '18 Oxford White gt350. Since completion I have noticed a slight yellowish/sometimes blue tint on the hood (new paint) when comparing it to adjacent panels like the fenders and bumper (existing paint).

Most people I've asked said they can't see it or wouldn't have noticed the difference if I didn't point it out. And from 5 feet away, I'll admit, you cannot tell there's a difference. I have tried to live with the slight difference for a couple of weeks and have decided I cannot.

Upon visiting the dealer(where I had it repainted) they are more than happy to respray the hood on their dime, but insist on blending the new paint into the fenders(and probably the bumper).

My gut tells me not to blend the paint...what say you?

On a car like this, is this blending a huge NO NO? or should I just suck it up and live with the slight difference? Or, alternatively, should they be able to match the existing paint much closer than what they already have?

Pictures don't totally do it justice but check out the difference between the hood and existing paint:

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I can see the difference instantly and that would drive me nuts. The hood is more of a "bright" white and almost glows compared to the fenders which are a darker shade of white and don't have that glow to them.

 

[Dr. Norts]

So close I can’t see the difference. Pictures usually don’t do justice unless it’s obvious.
Blending is standard practice BTW.
Great painters have special sight, seriously. You may have that great sight as well.

Don't take it the wrong way but I think it might be time for a check-up at the eye doctor. It doesn't take special sight to see that mismatch. The color difference is clearly obvious even in the pictures.

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