Should I sell mine?

[ShapeShifter]

I have a clunk slowing down for a red light. Happens at 17mph and 3mph. Also going F to R to F; any changing in the cars motion it could be heard. Its the axle shaft or differential but a "specialist has to diagnose it". I couldn't find play in the axle shafts or driveshaft.

I have the same clunk. Let me know what they find out. I posted a video about this over here (https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...-shift-conditions.135463/page-31#post-3462747) if you want to listen and tell me if its the same? Clunks when slowing down, often but not always during a down shift. Just seems to clunk when the car goes from accelerating to decelerating or changing from forward to backward or backward to forward. There is some slop somewhere.

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[TrackMustang]

I have a '21 mach 1 with automatic and 12k miles. I took it in for a warranty noise (waiting to hear what's wrong with it). I was joking around about trading it for something else.

Dealer called and wants to offer me 52.5k for it. With the car market so hot right now I don't know if I should take the offer or hold onto it (assuming mach 1's hold their value). I would be sad to see it go but at the same time there is always better things to replace it with. Basically is the offer too good to refuse?

I don't imagine these mass produced cars will hold their value in 20+ years like the older 60/70's cars.

The mass produced cars of the 60s (take the mustang for example) outsold current mustangs by like 10 fold. They cost $3k brand new and now cost $40k. All that being said, if you bought your Mustang just cause it’s supposed to be worth more in 10-20 years you F’ed up. 40-50 years maybe? Idk. Keep your car and do some sweet burnouts in it.

 

[Smunczen]

And none of that means anything if people don't care in years when he goes to well it. The 2003-2004 Mach1 was the fastest N/A Mustang that wasnt the 2000R or a Terminator, they don't hold crazy value unless they are VERY low milage and bone stock. Heck that even applies for a Terminator. Unless its a pristine low milage example its not bringing very high prices. And its taken about 20yrs to bring the prices a low milage example brings in. Same for the BOSS302 from 2012-2013. Sure its a higher value than a GT. But its not some great number unless its low milage.



Anything that's not a Shelby or a VERY low milage/stock example isn't going to bring in much more than any other GT/Bullitt of the generation. I wouldn't be amazed if the PPL2 brings almost base Mach1 money in future years due to how rare those are and how generally unknown it is.

The value of a PP2 will be interesting to see in the future.

 

[Atlas1]

i got the point just fine. you're simply repeating an often used and at this point, tired critique of the mach 1. i'll save you a response........the mach 1 should have come with its own bespoke engine! and it should have been priced the same as a cloth seat equipped gt!

 

[DarthMalice]

Rumor has it the M1 was originally going to get the Boss name. In one of the promo pics when the 18 refresh came out there was a S550 in the background with Boss type styling/vinyl. Who knows...maybe it is true. Rumor continues that the backlash against the Mach name being on the EV bastard was so high that they did damage control for the Mach name by putting it on this car. Regardless, the Mach 1 is a win. Awesome car...most balanced of the S550 gen-performance and livability. I count my lucky stars that I own a car like this...most recently had a number of people talking to me about how awesome it was to see almost my exact car leading the field at Talladega. I have to agree with them. I don't count on it to be collectible or anything...I don't care. I drive it now...daily if it is nice. 12K on the odometer after a little over a year. The Boss name probably would have sold well too...maybe it was a better fit historically as the Boss was also a step below shelby and very track focused.

 

[Cobra Jet]

As already mentioned - just because it's a Mach 1 and yes, produced in limited volume - as far as a value or future collectibility - it's all going to depend only on these (4) main factors:

1) Lowest Chasss # vs higher (unless the last Chassis # is in the hands of someone).

2) If the car is still completely in the wrapper and has not been Dealer prepped at all. This means the car was taken off the delivery transport, loaded on another transport/trailer and dropped into someone's garage, storage unit or the so called "barn". Essentially a "no mileage", still sealed/stickered vehicle as it came off the assembly line.

3) If it's an "unwrapped" car, it better have low miles, still appear new in/out and retains all documentation to its pedigree.

4) Other: Ownership count, accident or no accident, modded vs. not modded, still retains the Mach 1 specific applied logos/stripe packages, etc.

Put it this way, if the car (** ANY Limited Edition or low build pedigree from any Manufacturer) doesn't fall into the above categories - it's just another mass produced vehicle with only its "Limited Status" that sets it apart. It won't command the same value as a vehicle that falls into the buckets above - it just won't, not even 50 years from today.

The ONLY reason vehicles from the 50-70's are highly sought after and extremely valuable (in some instances) is because they were daily driven cars that NO ONE cared about and disposed of them like paper cups. They're highly sought after because there's so few of them left today and they're totally unique in and of themselves.

A current S550 Mach 1 isn't a "trophy car" or "investment grade" unless again, it has to be bucketed into the categories mentioned for it to not only get top dollar in the future, but to retain its value above all others.

If anyone bought any "Limited Edition" S550 as an "investment", and you're driving it as a daily, modifying it, or racing it, removing its specific As Built parts or branding, sorry to say, but it's just not investment grade and future value is no more than someone is willing to pay for that "used car".

The same is true with any of the S550 Shelby GT350, GT350R or the GT500. There's a huge difference in what someone can get when talking "investment grade" vs "yea, I bought it to drive it".

One other thing too - Limited Edition doesn't mean much when Ford keeps producing the same "Limited Edition" for 2-3-5 years, and the market is saturated - with the only differences being the actual model year and/or exterior colors...

The only S550 that is truly Limited at this stage is the 2015 50Th Anniversary Edition, which only 1,964 examples were ever built. It has unique parts that aren't on other S550's, which can't be purchased through normal channels. Granted these aren't "performance spec'd" like a Shelby or Mach 1, BUT my point is - they ARE truly "Limited" to a 1-year only build and an extremely low build count. Don't be surprised if these exceed the values of the Shelby/Mach 1 pedigrees down the road - because 1) a 50th Anniversary of a specific production vehicle only comes once, 2) very low volume, and 3) a 1-year only model.

 

[Ron]

"Umm, what??? More weight, less power, smaller brakes, less aero. How is that faster?"

Not sure what has been printed downstream of this post, but C&D also had an earlier comparison of the 2019 Level II & GT350. While the GT350 has better OA lap times @ Grattan ("nearly two seconds quicker"), the Level II had both better braking & handling. It also performed better on the skid pad. In both instances, it was due to the larger footprint (wheel/tire combo) of the Level II. With the Mach 1 having the same wheel/tire upgrade as the Level II AND some additional suspension/chassis items from the GT350, it's kind of a no-brainer that it would be a better track car. Think about it ... when Ford was developing the Mach 1, they knew that the GT350 was a "dead horse". Just as the Level II was a step between the GT & the GT350, the Mach 1 had to be improved a bit more to establish itself as a legitimate step between the GT & the GT500. Marketing 101, if you will.

 

[jayhoogs]

The Mach 1 has an auto which shifts faster, and hits the torque way sooner than the FPC. The Mach 1 stole the GT350 suspension, plus the minor improvements that were discovered in the GT350.

All that said. The Mach 1 name should NEVER have been used on the car. It bastardizes the Mach 1 of the 60's and early 70's, which went fast in a straight line only. The current Mach 1 can turn corners. Thereby, making it not a Mach 1.

Ford should have called it the Mustang SHO, or anything else. But not the Mach 1. Just like the GT500 should not be the GT500. But that is a topic for another day.

I get what you are saying, but at the same time if that logic were true then the Mustang name should not be used at all anymore. But every car evolves over time; the average car today is much better than their counterparts of the past. Any Mustang of the past was focused on going straight and no one would have thought of making it a track car, but that has completely changed. Even the standard Mustang now can be a decent track car, so does that mean it can no longer be called a Mustang? Just because the car is different today does not mean it cannot come as an evolved version of a car from the past. Personally, I love that they called it the Mach 1, it sounds cool and has some nice retro touches while being a much better, evolved performance car.

 

[ChitownStang]

6313 produced worldwide for 2021 Mach 1's and most of them were fighter Jet Grey
That's pretty low!
Also 2021 has more horse power than 22
$52k was a low ball offer
This car will hold it's value nicely, It is a noticeably different car than a regular GT.
Most people love it except for jealous GT owners who are mostly the haters...lol

 

[DarthMalice]

I think GT350 owners are the bigger haters of it! Seriously...I can't tell you how many snide comments I have had on it from a GT350 owner at a show, usually with the overpriced mantra. When it beat the R at LL, I couldn't help but put that in my back pocket for those kinds of conversations. It wasn't a big win but shows the car is in the same ballpark and that just infuriates them. I have had camaro guys be more complimentary of my car!

 

[br_an]

I have a clunk slowing down for a red light. Happens at 17mph and 3mph. Also going F to R to F; any changing in the cars motion it could be heard. Its the axle shaft or differential but a "specialist has to diagnose it". I couldn't find play in the axle shafts or driveshaft.

Dumb question: Did you check your trunk for anything loose rolling around? A while back I started hearing a clunk when braking and it turned out to be an apple that fell out of a grocery bag

 

[ChitownStang]

I think GT350 owners are the bigger haters of it! Seriously...I can't tell you how many snide comments I have had on it from a GT350 owner at a show, usually with the overpriced mantra. When it beat the R at LL, I couldn't help but put that in my back pocket for those kinds of conversations. It wasn't a big win but shows the car is in the same ballpark and that just infuriates them. I have had camaro guys be more complimentary of my car!

Yeah, I don't get it. I love GT350's but it just wasn't a practical car for me. I would never bash anyone's car unless it was a Crapmaro... lol
I Paid $57k for my Premium Mach 1 700A, A10, wheels & red Brembos. Now it's $4k more for the same build because of inflation.
Plus I got to go to Ford Performance race school which was epic for free!
I say, GREAT DEAL!

 

[Atlas1]

I think GT350 owners are the bigger haters of it! Seriously...I can't tell you how many snide comments I have had on it from a GT350 owner at a show, usually with the overpriced mantra. When it beat the R at LL, I couldn't help but put that in my back pocket for those kinds of conversations. It wasn't a big win but shows the car is in the same ballpark and that just infuriates them. I have had camaro guys be more complimentary of my car!

Some, yes. There’s a number of them that post in here that are cool guys. There’s a couple that ive seen make stupid comments but if you look closer at their posts they tend to be miserable humans regardless of what kind of car they drive
I haven’t had any personal interactions with gt350 owners that I’ve come across in the wild other than a thumbs up from one last summer heading the other direction. Car shows can attract some real weirdos though so I wouldn’t base too much on that.

 

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[S550VIN54]

From what I can tell you are definitely contemplating the idea to sell and like others have said shop other avenues such as CarMax, Carvana, etc. Your car is definitely worth more than 52k!

I look forward to watching BaT in the future to see what values this awesome car brings.

Don't sell it! Drive Live Drive!!!

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