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Just wanted to share my thoughts.
With all the recent posts of engine failures and oil usage etc it seems like a lot of folks are not happy with there engines etc. I do not want to get into the details of Ford not honoring warranty but simply a discussion of the power plant.
In this day and age of modern cars most people expect to never check oil or basics in between recommended services. Hell a lot of people never even check tire pressure.
My point is that this vehicle and engine is basically a race engine/car on the street and it must be monitored frequently and the harder it is driven the more it needs to at least have its vitals checked regularly.
Yes this engine will go through oil more quickly than some but it is also from what I can tell based on the 11000 miles I have on mine that the harder you drive it the more oil it uses and if you cruise it its oil consumption is far less. If I drive it like I stole which I do most of the time once fully warmed up it can use 1 quart to 1 1/2 quarts in a 1000 miles.
Should ford have put a higher tension ring pack on this engine at the cost of some horsepower. I don't know but I sure like how the engine pulls effortlessly to a redline that is sky high for a fairly large displacement V8.
I do know that some of what are considered by many as some of the best engineered engines from Europe such as the E60 M5s and E90 M3s will use a quart of oil in 500 miles or less and The spec from BMW is 1 qt per 800 miles.
Should Ford have made a stronger oil pump gear who knows but I don't think there is enough proof of actual oil pump failures to warrant this. Maybe some of these failures were from running low on oil and maybe some bearing material made it way into the tight clearanced pump and caused some of the pump failures. Don't know only Ford does.
My whole point is that Ford stepped out of box to make these special vehicles for us that will require more attention and TLC than most but for me that is part of the fun of owning such a unique vehicle with this powertrain. Do we want them to no longer make these types of vehicles because some of us don't follow basic maintenance checks for a HP vehicle.
All that being said I also agree with some of those with warranty issues that FORD needs to honor there warranties and fix issues that are warrantable matters! They do not and should not honor warranties for tuned and modified vehicles or for dealers/customer that leave oil filters improperly tightened or fail to monitor there oil level etc.
I will also add this, it is my daily driver and only car and I am a dialysis patient so I need a reliable vehicle to get to and from medical treatment and it has never let me down yet.
With all the recent posts of engine failures and oil usage etc it seems like a lot of folks are not happy with there engines etc. I do not want to get into the details of Ford not honoring warranty but simply a discussion of the power plant.
In this day and age of modern cars most people expect to never check oil or basics in between recommended services. Hell a lot of people never even check tire pressure.
My point is that this vehicle and engine is basically a race engine/car on the street and it must be monitored frequently and the harder it is driven the more it needs to at least have its vitals checked regularly.
Yes this engine will go through oil more quickly than some but it is also from what I can tell based on the 11000 miles I have on mine that the harder you drive it the more oil it uses and if you cruise it its oil consumption is far less. If I drive it like I stole which I do most of the time once fully warmed up it can use 1 quart to 1 1/2 quarts in a 1000 miles.
Should ford have put a higher tension ring pack on this engine at the cost of some horsepower. I don't know but I sure like how the engine pulls effortlessly to a redline that is sky high for a fairly large displacement V8.
I do know that some of what are considered by many as some of the best engineered engines from Europe such as the E60 M5s and E90 M3s will use a quart of oil in 500 miles or less and The spec from BMW is 1 qt per 800 miles.
Should Ford have made a stronger oil pump gear who knows but I don't think there is enough proof of actual oil pump failures to warrant this. Maybe some of these failures were from running low on oil and maybe some bearing material made it way into the tight clearanced pump and caused some of the pump failures. Don't know only Ford does.
My whole point is that Ford stepped out of box to make these special vehicles for us that will require more attention and TLC than most but for me that is part of the fun of owning such a unique vehicle with this powertrain. Do we want them to no longer make these types of vehicles because some of us don't follow basic maintenance checks for a HP vehicle.
All that being said I also agree with some of those with warranty issues that FORD needs to honor there warranties and fix issues that are warrantable matters! They do not and should not honor warranties for tuned and modified vehicles or for dealers/customer that leave oil filters improperly tightened or fail to monitor there oil level etc.
I will also add this, it is my daily driver and only car and I am a dialysis patient so I need a reliable vehicle to get to and from medical treatment and it has never let me down yet.
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