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2019's have been out for a while, has anyone dug into one yet to see how the rev matching is done and if it's potentially retrofittable?
I don't know, but I would sure love to have it. I'm 48yo now, and I just can't turn my foot to rev match properly anymore. I really wish I there was a way to have it done.
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Just learn how to drive you car. Get to know the gears and rpms. Its not hard....
 

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Just learn how to drive you car. Get to know the gears and rpms. Its not hard....
When you get older and the feet just don't want to rotate to properly heel toe anymore, it's not a question of knowing how to drive the car. We are all well aware, and have been driving manuals for decades.
The reason it would be nice to have, is so when we drive spirited in the mountains or at the track, we can properly rev match without causing potential harm to the car when downshifting quickly.
 

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When you get older and the feet just don't want to rotate to properly heel toe anymore, it's not a question of knowing how to drive the car. We are all well aware, and have been driving manuals for decades.
The reason it would be nice to have, is so when we drive spirited in the mountains or at the track, we can properly rev match without causing potential harm to the car when downshifting quickly.
I have to agree with condor. I'm 68 with bad knees and I can't rotate my ankle to make it work. So I try to anticipate when I need to slow down, blip the throttle and downshift. Won't work at a track, but gets the attention of the camaro/challenger drivers in the next lane.
 

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When you get older and the feet just don't want to rotate to properly heel toe anymore......
It doesn't require rotating anything. "Heel & toe" is a misnomer, it's actually "Big toe & right side of foot", no contortions are necessary.
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We are all well aware, and have been driving manuals for decades.....
Well, obviously that's not true.
 

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It doesn't require rotating anything. "Heel & toe" is a misnomer, it's actually "Big toe & right side of foot", no contortions are necessary.

Well, obviously that's not true.
The only trouble is that in the Mustang the pedals really aren't aligned correctly for this unless you're stabbing the brakes hard. The brake is too high relative to the gas. So you still have to either twist your ankle or rotate it so you can pivot instead of twist, for most downshifts.

Think of it as physical therapy. Use your range of motion or lose it. Yeah, sorry for those of you with fused ankles.

I'm not bothered by the requests for rev matching. Everybody wanna sound like me. :crackup: Yeah, it's a little sad like driving an auto - they'll never enjoy the satisfaction of doing it perfectly themselves.
 
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The only trouble is that in the Mustang the pedals really aren't aligned correctly for this unless you're stabbing the brakes hard. The brake is too high relative to the gas. So you still have to either twist your ankle or rotate it so you can pivot instead of twist, for most downshifts.

Think of it as physical therapy. Use your range of motion or lose it. Yeah, sorry for those of you with fused ankles.

I'm not bothered by the requests for rev matching. Everybody wanna sound like me. :crackup: Yeah, it's a little sad like driving an auto - they'll never enjoy the satisfaction of doing it perfectly themselves.
I "heel & toe" every day. I've never had an issue with the height of the pedals. Easy peasy.
 

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I "heel & toe" every day. I've never had an issue with the height of the pedals. Easy peasy.
Well, i guess you're a better person than everyone else then. Has it ever dawned on you, that not everyone is the same as you? Everyone is built a different, and not everyone can heel toe like you, since you're such an expert. I used to heel toe all the time when younger. Not so easy now.

And yes, nrc is correct, the pedals are not nearly aligned enough to heel toe like you say, unless your ankle has a ton of rotation, which mine no longer has.

some people install pedal brackets to raise it up, but with the way I drive, I don't want to the gas pedal out any further than it is. where it's located is just about perfect, but it doesn't lend itself to heel toeing easily if your ankle doesn't have the range of motion it had decades ago.
 

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Well, i guess you're a better person than everyone else then. Has it ever dawned on you, that not everyone is the same as you? Everyone is built a different, and not everyone can heel toe like you, since you're such an expert.
Learning to not take personally that which isn't, is evidently a lost art.
 

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Learning to not take personally that which isn't, is evidently a lost art.
So, you think it's not personal to call someone a liar?

You basically did. Most of us in this thread have in fact been driving manuals for decades. If for some reason you don't want to believe that, then that's your problem. Maybe you should keep it to yourself. So, yes I will take it personal. Maybe you should grow up and practice what you preach before before claiming things to be untrue when they are.
 

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So, you think it's not personal to call someone a liar?

You basically did. Most of us in this thread have in fact been driving manuals for decades. If for some reason you don't want to believe that, then that's your problem. Maybe you should keep it to yourself. So, yes I will take it personal. Maybe you should grow up and practice what you preach before before claiming things to be untrue when they are.
Let me state this again; I "heel & toe" every day. I've never had an issue with the height of the pedals. Easy peasy.

That is neither calling anyone a liar, nor personal. Nor is it claiming anything is untrue. You're imagining things, and over-reacting.

Calm down.
 

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It doesn't require rotating anything. "Heel & toe" is a misnomer, it's actually "Big toe & right side of foot", no contortions are necessary.
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You still have to rotate your foot at the ankle to kick the revs up, which some of us might consider a contortion even if getting one foot onto pedals that are at slightly different heights didn't feel like one.


To OP, I think it's being way too fussy to expect or demand mathematically perfect rev matching, since you only have to be "close enough" for it to be "good enough". Manually doing a rev-match - with or without the heel-toe bit - was always an analog kind of thing that never needed "digital precision" to work.

Autoblip may actually be a pretty good option as long as the spacing between adjacent gears is reasonably consistent and you're not skipping a gear on the way down. Though you might find yourself on the hook for getting it in all of your MT cars.


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Let me state this again; I "heel & toe" every day. I've never had an issue with the height of the pedals. Easy peasy.

That is neither calling anyone a liar, nor personal.
Not in so many words. But it does imply that nobody else should have any issue with it either ("easy peasy" - to you it's so easy even a cave man . . .), which we know is not the case for everybody.


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Not in so many words. But it does imply that nobody else should have any issue with it either ("easy peasy" - to you it's so easy even a cave man . . .), which we know is not the case for everybody.


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I do it like NovaGT.

Done this since my '86 GT. Pedals are fine in my 2014.

I just got some new Adidas shoes.
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