Replaced Voodoo Engine

[tlisotta]

Who knows dude! I just know what you're going through since I also lost an engine. I hope they get you back on the road as soon as possible.

Thanks! First world problems. I just first want to get it to the dealer and here them say "warranty will cover it" - then I will have a sigh of relief

 

[Minn19]

That depends really. I've had times where I didn't get much in my catch can after a sprint of autocross or track days. Then normal every day driving the thing was stuffed full. Right now I'm about 1/3 full and I've been doing a lot of short driving unfortunately but my autocross season is in full swing so we'll see. Sorry to see the bad luck. That is gnarly though. I would assume Ford will take care of you because.

There's a GT350 in my local dealership that has gone through two engines in 1500 miles. HOWEVER, he's also kind of a douche nozzle and I saw him rip out of the dealership once. Car wasn't warmed up and just hammered it like an asshole. Tire spin, squirming around...just being a dick. Supposedly there's also video of him doing sustained burnouts and the oil temp gauge is clearly not up to temp. I can't confirm this though, which is kinda hearsay until I do so take it as you will. But that's the story.

See that's weird the variation of the engines and experiences. After 7000 miles including a couple of SCCA track nights (3 20 minute sessions) my passenger catch can is about a 1/3 full with zero ever in the driver side. I'm surprised you get that much during normal driving.

 

[MrCincinnati]

Comments in comments section of this video from the owner point to Ford saying OPG... unofficially

 

[MrCincinnati]

LOL that guy in the video is the one who didn't know that when you get a new block it doesn't have a VIN. He's also firmly convinced that there is a difference between the engine in a GT350 and a GT350 R.

..and was shifting horribly in the video where the engine blew.

I scoffed at his assertion about the difference in engines also - but I don't have any evidence to support my scoffing.

 

[nastang87xx]

..and was shifting horribly in the video where the engine blew.

I scoffed at his assertion about the difference in engines also - but I don't have any evidence to support my scoffing.

I saw that video too. Truly a mess. Overrev'ed a few times if I remember or at least it was speculated as such.

 

[5.2 VooDoo]

Well....it happened to me today at the track. 3,000 miles. Was not pushing it when it happened. Rod thrown through the oil pan. Had the oil changed a few weeks ago and I checked the oil before I went to the track. It is sitting waiting for a tow truck to tack it to my service dealer.

Care to share which people built/ signed your engine?

 

[17RubyShelbyGT350]

Damn

Thanks! First world problems. I just first want to get it to the dealer and here them say "warranty will cover it" - then I will have a sigh of relief

Totally, sucks and sorry to hear what happened. Sounds like you took all of the appropriate precautions. Hope Ford steps up to the plate for you. I hope that we don't start seeing a lot more of these stories now that folks are beginning to use their cars a lot more during the warmer months.

I hope none of these track failures will results in an oil spill that can lead to a serious accident.

Yours makes number 18 on my list and the failure percentage is now at 6% among members according to my count.

 

[17RubyShelbyGT350]

Wow, bummer. I don't think you need a teardown to figure out what happened there.

I dunno, what did happen here? We only see the consequences, not the cause. Personally, I am beginning to believe that the problem is in the sub-contracted for components and/or assembly process. How influential were the green eyeshade folks? Is the engine we paid for the same as what Ford developed, and tested the snot out of? Did some things get changed in the pursuit of the bottom line on an accounting sheet? Don't know, but I do wonder.

And it is not just here, and not just with American manufacturers. Going back to the dealer for the THIRD time to pick-up my wife's Mazda CX3 after yet another A/C component failure and replacement session. Sounds like I might have that to look forward to with the Shelby, from what I see on the forums.

I remember a few years ago, some manufacturers were skimping on brake rotor thickness to save some pennies. The rotors were made too thin and it didn't take much for them to warp.

This crap is getting old....

 

[Tomster]

I dunno, what did happen here? We only see the consequences, not the cause. Personally, I am beginning to believe that the problem is in the sub-contracted for components and/or assembly process. How influential were the green eyeshade folks? Is the engine we paid for the same as what Ford developed, and tested the snot out of? Did some things get changed in the pursuit of the bottom line on an accounting sheet? Don't know, but I do wonder.

And it is not just here, and not just with American manufacturers. Going back to the dealer for the THIRD time to pick-up my wife's Mazda CX3 after yet another A/C component failure and replacement session. Sounds like I might have that to look forward to with the Shelby, from what I see on the forums.

I remember a few years ago, some manufacturers were skimping on brake rotor thickness to save some pennies. The rotors were made too thin and it didn't take much for them to warp.

This crap is getting old....

It is in my humble opinion that the OPG fails and the motor tears itself apart. You are correct. This is getting old, but without knowing what is going on, there is nothing else to do except keep your car under warranty. It will reach a point where ford will have to do something.

 

[rotnroby]

Oil pump casing went on mine resulting in opg's become 10 pieces
ford replaced with out question
The mechanic said that the housing, casing, is cast and has been somewhat of a problem

 

[Tflong24]

Totally, sucks and sorry to hear what happened. Sounds like you took all of the appropriate precautions. Hope Ford steps up to the plate for you. I hope that we don't start seeing a lot more of these stories now that folks are beginning to use their cars a lot more during the warmer months.

I hope none of these track failures will results in an oil spill that can lead to a serious accident.

Yours makes number 18 on my list and the failure percentage is now at 6% among members according to my count.

Don’t want to get into the “limited production car’ debate, as the GT350 is still a mass produced car, but is a 6% (based on forum members only) engine failure rate really acceptable in 2018? Sounds like a low % but really isn’t. Especially since the pace of failures seem to be ticking up.

 

[tlisotta]

It is in my humble opinion that the OPG fails and the motor tears itself apart. You are correct. This is getting old, but without knowing what is going on, there is nothing else to do except keep your car under warranty. It will reach a point where ford will have to do something.

Just dropped it off at dealer. They have replaced 2 engines so far. He suspects new engine has a different OPG. Hmmm

 

[H6G]

If you are saying that knowing a rod let loose doesn't absolve the oil pump from being a possible failure source (or dirt somewhere else in the system that robbed the rod bearing of lubrication, or a bad rod bolt, or an out of tolerance bearing shell, etc. etc.), I agree. There are many, many possible issues that could end up with the rod failing without the rod itself being the root cause.

There are several possibilities..... However, Too Little Rod Bearing Clearance = Failure!
An obvious one here is not properly checking the bearing clearance. The builder(s) might think that a crank checks at standard specs-if it is checked at all-and figures the clearance is good. The worst thing to do on a race engine is have the bearings too tight, especially on a higher rpm engine, especially on the rods. When you spin them up the rod gets a little bit stretched and the big end pinches the bearing or it doesn’t get enough oil to keep it cool enough, and the bearing fails.

 

[mikez]

has anyone that has aftermarket billet OPG reported any problems? wonder how many guys with FI that have done the gears have lost motors?
i love this car so much i'm tempted to just replace the gears and be done with it

 

[17RubyShelbyGT350]

Hmmm

Oil pump casing went on mine resulting in opg's become 10 pieces
ford replaced with out question
The mechanic said that the housing, casing, is cast and has been somewhat of a problem

First time I have read that a Ford employee said that the OPG "was a problem."

Oh, and I am adding you to the list as #19, so we are now up to a 6.3% failure rate among forum members...