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He seriously just loves to hear himself speak/read his own posts. Look at how much he posts, and how big his posts are, and most of it is just babbling. I won't comment on this or the intake discussion any further. He'll just go off on another tangent.
Agreed. He'd buy land in the desert if a manufacturer told him it was a good purchase.
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I understood exactly what you said. You simply don't know what you're talking about. I don't have one on my GT. I said that multiple times. But I also said I've used these devices and others like them on other cars. Therefore I am by far more qualified to make a comment about what it does than you are. Why are you even here commenting if you never even used the product. ANd how are you gonna tell me that the change isn't as noticeable as I'm saying it is if you never used it and I have. Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about because you're commenting on something you've never used.
What are you talking about? I have a Pedalmax, and I think it's great. How about you actually read what I wrote for once.

And saying you're far more qualified than I because you've previously owned one on another car is the most hypocritical thing I've read on this forum. You specifically told me my opinion was invalid because I did not have a CAI on my mustang.
 

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Once again. Guys the thread has become out if control. Guys don't even know who is on who's side. PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!
 

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What are you talking about? I have a Pedalmax, and I think it's great. How about you actually read what I wrote for once.

And saying you're far more qualified than I because you've previously owned one on another car is the most hypocritical thing I've read on this forum. You specifically told me my opinion was invalid because I did not have a CAI on my mustang.
If you have one and feel that it works great, why did you quote me and criticize me when I said and have been saying the exact same thing on this thread since my first post? If anything, we're on the same side and you're making me out to be in disagreement with you. I'm not the one bashing and making fun of others for buying it. And I'm not the one telling people it doesn't do anything and it is "snake oil". So despite our previous agreements in the past, this is one thing we both agree on. I'll argue to death on something I disagree with you on. But if we do agree on something, I will openly admit it. That is what these forums are for man. We'll never agree on intakes. It just ain't gonna happen. But that don't mean I won't toss back a beer or two with ya. So we agree on this. I guess we can be friends after all, lol!!
 

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Once again. Guys the thread has become out if control. Guys don't even know who is on who's side. PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!
Yea and this debate just keeps going back and forth, lol!! I said earlier in this thread that this same argument happened in a Camaro forum years ago, lol!! Same exact arguments, same exact replies, it was all the same. The company that sold the device there even offered discounts, free shipping, and a money back guarantee just like these guys did here. Maybe the naysayers here will all one by one buy it out of curiosity and realize they've been wrong this entire time, lol!! I for one wasn't planning to get one but I think I changed my mind!!
 

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I don't think most folks are arguing that the Pedalmax/Pedal Commander doesn't work. I think their argument is that it isn't worth it because to me, it seems like all its doing is changing the pedal input/throttle tables. My only point was this could be done within a tune, which also does many other things besides just throttle control.

But with that said, I don't think it's very nice to infer that people who buy this product are stupid. We're all friends here I'd like to think. To whoever uses and likes it/sees a benefit from it/thinks it's worth the $, that's great. If it adds to the enjoyment of the car then that's the end game. Same thing with a CAI. Some people says it's useless and the stock airbox is indeed better. But if a person sees a difference or it adds to the enjoyment of the car/peace of mind, etc. all that - then it is.

I've never used a Pedalmax or similar device - so I can't say whether it is good or if it is worth the money or not.

Make your points known but let's not berate the people who like it and use it, that's my take.
 

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Yea and this debate just keeps going back and forth, lol!! I said earlier in this thread that this same argument happened in a Camaro forum years ago, lol!! Same exact arguments, same exact replies, it was all the same. The company that sold the device there even offered discounts, free shipping, and a money back guarantee just like these guys did here. Maybe the naysayers here will all one by one buy it out of curiosity and realize they've been wrong this entire time, lol!! I for one wasn't planning to get one but I think I changed my mind!!
You're extremely lost in this thread. I've looked through most of it and no one is saying it doesn't work. We are all saying it works but through a placebo effect. It's not adding any real value to the performance of the car. It's a magic trick that multiplies values and changes the movement of the pedal in relation to the movement of the throttle blade.

You're literally Hooting and Hollering like a wild monkey in this thread throwing your poop at everyone who says it's a magic trick and not worth it. Because it's not. Because we all actually like real gains from our money spent. Not just feel good items that trick you into thinking it's sportier. :crazy:
 

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You're extremely lost in this thread. I've looked through most of it and no one is saying it doesn't work. We are all saying it works but through a placebo effect. It's not adding any real value to the performance of the car. It's a magic trick that multiplies values and changes the movement of the pedal in relation to the movement of the throttle blade.

You're literally Hooting and Hollering like a wild monkey in this thread throwing your poop at everyone who says it's a magic trick and not worth it. Because it's not. Because we all actually like real gains from our money spent. Not just feel good items that trick you into thinking it's sportier. :crazy:

You have no idea what a placebo is. Listen pal, you wanna argue, debate, discuss, or whatever with me, then I will gladly do so. But don't get all mad or call me out when you're doing the exact same thing I am. This thread was very well along before I jumped in. And some of the people who were here longer than me are still in here. This thread has gotten to where it is and it has nothing to do with me so don't make me out to be the problem. Even after I walked away it still went on. And the same arguments have came, gone, and came back again. And the same people you're stepping in to defend have been on here bashing others for their purchase. But to be clear, I have no problem being vocal or stating my opinions from my experiences using this or any other product just like you and your little friends are doing. I'll gladly keep saying what I've been saying all along. Don't like it, then feel free to ignore me.
 

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OP, I installed the air raid mit and afe panel filter last night. Seems to respond a bit better. Can't say I notice any power gain, but haven't been able to truly test it yet. Won't be getting the velossa till the winter when I have time to pull the bumper and drill my grille.
 

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There is no debate.

Theres people who understand how it works and explained it many times and then theres people who refuse to understand how it works and continue saying nothing with lots of words.
 

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I don't think most folks are arguing that the Pedalmax/Pedal Commander doesn't work. I think their argument is that it isn't worth it because to me, it seems like all its doing is changing the pedal input/throttle tables. My only point was this could be done within a tune, which also does many other things besides just throttle control.

But with that said, I don't think it's very nice to infer that people who buy this product are stupid. We're all friends here I'd like to think. To whoever uses and likes it/sees a benefit from it/thinks it's worth the $, that's great. If it adds to the enjoyment of the car then that's the end game. Same thing with a CAI. Some people says it's useless and the stock airbox is indeed better. But if a person sees a difference or it adds to the enjoyment of the car/peace of mind, etc. all that - then it is.

I've never used a Pedalmax or similar device - so I can't say whether it is good or if it is worth the money or not.

Make your points known but let's not berate the people who like it and use it, that's my take.
It's only scaling the voltage output of the throttle pedal position, so it makes the throttle open more for a given pedal displacement. If it actually were able to alter driver demand tables, then I'd be all in. You can only do that with a tune. Altering demand tables actually changes the performance of the car, but in the way that going from normal to sport or track mode does. Those modes don't change much in the table below 20% throttle input, but after that it's more 'spikey' and it makes the engine deliver more torque for a given pedal input (non-linear).
 

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SMH...and here we go again...round 12 guys...
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