Quicker throttle response

[Dolsvt00]

^Uses electronic diagram to show difference using pre-placed LED lights... Must be scientific proof.

Yes, thats deceiving.

Here are the graphs from sport, normal and weather. As you can see those adapters do the same thing as tuning it with regards to feel, the throttle body only opens to a certain angle, how fast or soon it gets there is a factor of moving the points to the left.

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[LethalPerformance]

Do these effect your warranty at all?

The Pedalmax shouldn't effect your warranty at all. These are plug and play units that don't flash or change anything in the PCM and can easily be removed if you happen to need to take the car in for service.

Let us know if you have any other questions.

Thanks, Jared

 

[4V Mayhem]

Sucks being smarter than the sheep, doesn't it? Then of course we have The Boost Max which is another spoofing device that reports back less boost and over boosts to compensate, and hopes the fuel trims can at least bring the fuel tables back into check.

So now we have a knife sharp on/off switch for the accelerator pedal and a over boosting turbo that's overheating.

Keep buying this stuff guys, lol. The vendors will gladly chime in and tell you that you need it. Just like throttle body spacers and intake manifold spacers.

All I'm saying is this...if you have a Mustang and plan to do small simple mods like a cai and catback and thats it, then go for one of these devices. I don't have one but I have used them many times on many different cars. It is worth every penny. It will make your DD much more fun. But if you have more extensive mods planned for the future then skip it.

Diva, there are a lot of people who just wanna enjoy their Mustang without introducing a tune or spending heavy money on mods or blowing their warranty. If I was part of that group then I would get one in a heartbeat. They work that good. You can argue it all you want. I don't care how it does what it does. I just know that it won't damage or harm anything at all. And I know from previous experience that they do what they are intended to do.

But I will say this, I defended you back on a thread where someone criticized others for going the "cheap route" or what they considered to be the "cheap route" with headers. Well maybe it was you or the guy who got his headers the same time as you. And for all the flak you took back then, if it was you, you sure as heck seem to be throwing it right back at others. What was it you got, TSP or OBX? I remember someone arguing that they won't make as much power as Kooks or that the material was thinner and the sound would be tinny and all sorts of other ridicule to which I countered. Was I a sheep back then for agreeing with you?

 

[TheDivaDanielle]

I'm well aware of how the placebo works and what it does. I don't need to, because I understand how and what it does. I suspect that my right foot works better than yours because I don't need to purchase crap like this.

 

[4V Mayhem]

I'm well aware of how the placebo works and what it does. I don't need to, because I understand how and what it does. I suspect that my right foot works better than yours because I don't need to purchase crap like this.

Actually, you aren't. And actually, you don't.

 

[TheDivaDanielle]

Also that wasn't me. I specifically bought TSP because of its specifications on paper which were what I was looking for. 1 7/8", 3" spike collectors, stainless, long tube design, and 2mm tube thickness so they wouldn't be tinny. These were all of that and cost half of what a competitor was selling. Full disclosure, I've had Kooks, SW and TSP stuff before, so I knew the brand would deliver, and it did.

I'm not sure how headers vs headers compares to a throttle input spoofer.

 

[4V Mayhem]

Also that wasn't me. I specifically bought TSP because of its specifications on paper which were what I was looking for. 1 7/8", 3" spike collectors, stainless, long tube design, and 2mm tube thickness so they wouldn't be tinny. These were all of that and cost half of what a competitor was selling. Full disclosure, I've had Kooks, SW and TSP stuff before, so I knew the brand would deliver, and it did.

I'm not sure how headers vs headers compares to a throttle input spoofer.

That was you. You sat there and defended your purchase and others defended you especially when that one guy made those chauvinistic remarks about you. And here you are trashing others for their purchase. Wasn't even a month ago.

 

[4V Mayhem]

Also that wasn't me. I specifically bought TSP because of its specifications on paper which were what I was looking for. 1 7/8", 3" spike collectors, stainless, long tube design, and 2mm tube thickness so they wouldn't be tinny. These were all of that and cost half of what a competitor was selling. Full disclosure, I've had Kooks, SW and TSP stuff before, so I knew the brand would deliver, and it did.

I'm not sure how headers vs headers compares to a throttle input spoofer.

Since you're not sure of the comparison I made I'll simplify it for you. You got trashed for making a purchase for your car. And now you are trashing others for making a purchase for their car. That is the similarity.

 

[Chad11491]

i can see why people would like these. I had a 944 which has a comma shaped throttle cam that connects the cable to the TB. The pedal feel was much improved by just putting a circular throttle cam on it. It had the same affect as more aggressively applying throttle, but it was a cheap, nice mod. In the real world it was a nice to have part that made driving the car more enjoyable. This is the same thing, but digital. I can see why people that have them like them. Why be so critical of other people's mods on here?

 

[beefcake]

Do these effect your warranty at all?

simply unplug before taking to the dealer

 

[thet33]

The air of superiority is ridiculous.

People with PP and Premium with modes making blanket statements about the Base model's throttle feel. That is all.

 

[TheDivaDanielle]

That was you. You sat there and defended your purchase and others defended you especially when that one guy made those chauvinistic remarks about you. And here you are trashing others for their purchase. Wasn't even a month ago.

You have yourself far too twisted over this. I'll just step back and let it be.

 

[daltron]

Sorry but you are wrong.

The throttle body opens at a given speed depending on throttle position desired.

All the pedal max / sprint booster do are changing the throttle pedal travel.

As an example, this is not actual ECU throttle tables:

No pedal max:
10% throttle = 10% actual
20% throttle = 20% actual
50% throttle = 50% actual
100% throttle = 100% actual

So if you press 100% throttle how quickly the throttlebody opens is controlled by how quickly you depress the pedal, if you ease into it the throttlebody opens slower, if you slam your foot down as fast as possible it will open faster.

With pedal max (again an example, not actual values)
10% throttle = 20% actual
20% throttle = 40% actual
50% throttle = 100% actual
100% throttle = 100% actual


So pedal max does it shortern your throttle travel, this gives the false sense of improved response and faster opening of the throttle body.

Saying it makes the throttle body open faster is absolute complete BS, the device piggy backs your throttle pedal signal so anyone with any brain will realise what it is doing, it is not connected to your throttle body and it is now sending more voltage to the unit.

The sensation of faster throttle body opening simply comes from the fact your throttle pedal has just become far more sensitive as you have effectively reduced how far you have to push it to get to 100% throttle making it far more sensitive.

Some people like this, but I am the person who enjoys driving car and am often on the race track and for ultimate control I need my throttle pedal working as it should which is as close to linear as possible and most importantly smooth.

So let me re-educate throttle body opening speed depends on throttle position and how quickly you pushed the throttle from say 10% to 75%, on a stock car this take more pedal travel which may take some drivers longer to do, whereas on a pedal max car your accelerator pedal travel to gain same throttle is shorter which give the illusion of better response and quicker throttle body opening.

Pedal max does not make your car accelerator faster or make the throttle body open faster, that is all down to your right foot.

You are right, the PedalMAX does not make your car accelerate faster. I have never said that.

You are wrong, it DOES make the throttle body open faster.

Sigh, you can't even read the posts you are quoting.

Let's try this again. The PedalMAX is a driveability mod. It is NOT a performance mod. A stock car CANNOT open the throttle body at the same speed or faster than a car with the PedalMAX.

Sucks being smarter than the sheep, doesn't it? Then of course we have The Boost Max which is another spoofing device that reports back less boost and over boosts to compensate, and hopes the fuel trims can at least bring the fuel tables back into check.

So now we have a knife sharp on/off switch for the accelerator pedal and a over boosting turbo that's overheating.

Keep buying this stuff guys, lol. The vendors will gladly chime in and tell you that you need it. Just like throttle body spacers and intake manifold spacers.

Where did the Boostmax enter the conversation? These things are doing two completely different things... I for one think the Boostmax is a dangerous mod.

I'm well aware of how the placebo works and what it does. I don't need to, because I understand how and what it does. I suspect that my right foot works better than yours because I don't need to purchase crap like this.

It's not placebo, sigh. We get it, you don't want one, but continue to post non-stop about it.

 

[Ambrotos]

No, you are twisted over this. You don't own this product. You don't know what it does, and how it does it. And yet you are telling us to keep wasting our money because we are just sheep pretty much.

People who have it, say it does make a difference. People who don't have it, say it doesn't. Guess who is right?

No pushing the peddle on the 5.0 further doesn't even compare what these items do. There is still a huge lag in throttle response. There is absolutely no lag and you get the WOT right away when you use these. This makes the car respond faster, it doesn't make the car faster. It makes the car feel that much more alive. Spending 200 dollars on an item to make my car feel this way was well worth it.

Keep going on and on about not owning the item, but telling people they are wrong. Classy.

People will shitpost just to shitpost. Gotta love the internet.

 

[MSMStannyl]

The air of superiority is ridiculous.

People with PP and Premium with modes making blanket statements about the Base model's throttle feel. That is all.

I'm not sure who you are referring to but, as I mentioned the other day, I have a GT Premium (non-PP). I had heard great things about the PedalMax but was on the fence because I was under the impression that my driving modes did the same thing more or less. Specifically, track mode.

I ended up buying one for a great price from a local member to give it a try. Figured that worse case I could sell it to someone else if I didn't like it, but I def wanted to see what all the hype was about. I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with it. I'm still trying to get used to it. Mine is set to 100% (seller didn't have the little pill to drop it to 60%). I think the knob is a good way to go as I think maybe 80% - 90% would be perfect.

Anyway, I'm not sure what happened here to make this thread go downhill. If I recall, the actual point of this thread was that the OP was asking what he could do for better throttle response. Seems to me that would be either a tune or a Pedalmax.

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