Paxton vs whipple

[Csb1992]

Thanks for the insite Dolsvt00 that's one of the main reasons the Paxton is looking good price for power amount is pretty damn good and it's a hard choice still haven't fully decided what system I want both sound like pretty good systems

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[Roh92cp]

I feel as though for a street car the whipple wouldn't perform as well because of having to much torque on the crappy streets so would spin more and because Paxton is not instant boost it will allow for some grip but I believe the whipple will perform better on track with nice tires and good conditions

Yes if you mean by too much torque that you can blaze the tires at will in 1st and 2nd and into third, but that really isn't a problem becuase you can modulate the pedal of course you don't have to put hit the pedal to th floor, and if you must put the pedal to the floor then adjust the flight controls power by gear. You can reduce up to 25% of the power in any gear you want. For a street car you want torque and power off idle it just makes it more practical to when tooling around the streets in a normal Rpm mode. And really traditionally the centi perform better at the track becuase they make peak power and stay I that power range while racing while a twin screw like Whipple makes power under the curve meaning nice low to midrange as well as top end. Don't get me wrong Whipple with these engines do very well at the track, as they are flat out fast.

Centri units don't seem to offer a burst of power off the line which, especially notorious with Whipples, requires you go out and buy yourself some $1500+ axles so you don't break those off. But you can control that down low power electronically and with your foot, as noted above. It is what most would consider the typical S/C experience.

I setup my Harley a lot like how a Centri unit theoretically affects our cars. Just mentioning for reference. I built it to a Stage III 103" relatively high compression setup with an aggressive "midrange cam" (etc., etc.). I'd could be taken off the line initially by bikes with work done and a more traditional "torque cam" that biased power at lower RPMs, but once we got moving, I ate them for breakfast including a lot of sport bikes that you wouldn't think a Dyna Street Bob should be able to drag. My bike was for like 30-rolls and highway pulls, not digs. I expect that same kind of feeling (granted, perhaps not actual in kind result... different in cars and this isn't a perfect comparison). But the Centri is the feeling of power coming and coming and coming vs. the more tranditional SC where the power being right there and sort of staying until it dies off. But you have to wait a second for it to come with a centri... relatively. It's more manageable and I believe, from a peak number perspective, offers more overall torque.

I don't have my half shaft replaced, this is not a must unless you will be using sticky tires and launching hard really.

 

[Csb1992]

Roh92cp have you changed your oil pump gears?

 

[Pincushin3819]

I've had just about everything from nitrous, TVS, centrifugal, single & twin turbos but all on LS cars. I will give you my input/thoughts on my experiences. Roots/TVS/Whipple are awesome no doubt, so fun on the street with the low end torque & look like they came on the car from the factory. Do make instant power with a table top power band. They also have a cool whining sound that is very distinctive. Down sides are they weigh the most & they heatsoak faster than the other options. It's like having a big heat pump on top of your motor the more & harder you drive it the more you notice it losing power. Most of the time there more expensive to buy & to upgrade as you grow. Centrifugal/Paxton have plenty of power to blow the tires off also down low, depending on the size of the head unit it will hit hard around 3500-3800 rpms & continue to claim with the rpms. Most of the time make more peak power in the upper rpms over the top mount blowers, so at the track if you can manage a good 60 foot you can haul the mail for staying in the upper rpms where the Centrifugal shines. It doesn't heat soak no where near like a top mount, weighs less but stands out like a sore thumb under the hood. Some like how it looks (I do) & some think it looks out of place. They have a cool spooling sound kinda like a turbo. You can also add a loud blow off vavle & scare the sh*t out of people like a turbo car. Another cool thing if your worried about more torque you can add a waste gate this will actually add tons tq/hp all throughout the power band while keeping the boost moderate. On top of it all its the cheapest route to get the same effects of the other. Turbos & nitrous I'll leave out since the OP was considering these two.

 

[Pincushin3819]

PS the post above is just my opinion. I'm not saying one is better than the other because they both will do the job & do it well. I don't won't to start a debate over the two. Go with what you like (look wise), what you can afford & what will meet your end goals. The most important advice I can give you is no matter which route you take make sure you get a good tuner & don't skimp on fuel.

 

[Roh92cp]

Roh92cp have you changed your oil pump gears?

No only changed to a race damper to minimize torsional vibrations on the crank and OPG and timing gears driven by it.

 

[Roh92cp]

I've had just about everything from nitrous, TVS, centrifugal, single & twin turbos but all on LS cars. I will give you my input/thoughts on my experiences. Roots/TVS/Whipple are awesome no doubt, so fun on the street with the low end torque & look like they came on the car from the factory. Do make instant power with a table top power band. They also have a cool whining sound that is very distinctive. Down sides are they weigh the most & they heatsoak faster than the other options. It's like having a big heat pump on top of your motor the more & harder you drive it the more you notice it losing power. Most of the time there more expensive to buy & to upgrade as you grow. Centrifugal/Paxton have plenty of power to blow the tires off also down low, depending on the size of the head unit it will hit hard around 3500-3800 rpms & continue to claim with the rpms. Most of the time make more peak power in the upper rpms over the top mount blowers, so at the track if you can manage a good 60 foot you can haul the mail for staying in the upper rpms where the Centrifugal shines. It doesn't heat soak no where near like a top mount, weighs less but stands out like a sore thumb under the hood. Some like how it looks (I do) & some think it looks out of place. They have a cool spooling sound kinda like a turbo. You can also add a loud blow off vavle & scare the sh*t out of people like a turbo car. Another cool thing if your worried about more torque you can add a waste gate this will actually add tons tq/hp all throughout the power band while keeping the boost moderate. On top of it all its the cheapest route to get the same effects of the other. Turbos & nitrous I'll leave out since the OP was considering these two.

I can only speak for the Whipple Kit which comes with a huge intercooler heat exchanger and pump that negates the effect of heat soak. All Whipple owners report full power regardless of being fulley heated even when raced. Yes the centi by nature produce less heat and are not sitting on top of the motor, but the newer system like Whipple have come along way to taming the heat.

 

[beefcake]

pincushin did a pretty good description.

you really can't go wrong with any power adder on a coyote, they will all be fun.

The Paxton is our best seller, as it's your least expensive entry into the power adder world, tons of growing potential, and great growing potential. You can gete satin, black, or polished

The whipple is the top of the line when it comes to the pd, it really outshines all the other PD setups, great OE look, and great software. You can get black, polished, or some pretty cool colors.

Really have to decide driving style and what look you want. Both are killer choices!!

Hit us up for all your Paxton / Whipple needs

 

['Merica]

pincushin did a pretty good description.

you really can't go wrong with any power adder on a coyote, they will all be fun.

The Paxton is our best seller, as it's your least expensive entry into the power adder world, tons of growing potential, and great growing potential. You can gete satin, black, or polished

The whipple is the top of the line when it comes to the pd, it really outshines all the other PD setups, great OE look, and great software. You can get black, polished, or some pretty cool colors.

Really have to decide driving style and what look you want. Both are killer choices!!

Hit us up for all your Paxton / Whipple needs

So for just a weekend warrior that may hit the track a few times a year, would you recommend the Paxton? Or recommend spending the extra for the Whipple? I'm sure it's personal preference but I'm a boost newb with no experience with either.

 

[rio16]

Great thing is, there are a lot of options for the S550 out there. But just look at that engine bay tho =) bonus is Performs well and Heat soak? idk man my IATs are good so far. Just get the Fans and Intercooler pump =)

 

[RockStang]

I love the look of the Whipple but it's really hard to justify the cost. It's like having artwork in your engine bay. If a Stage 2 Whipple kit was 7k vs a 6k Paxton, I would pay more for the Whipple 9/10 times, but it's not. And if you already have a nGauge and tuner, the Paxton get's even cheaper. I'll say that in the short time I had the D1SC on my car, it was plenty scary. But that's taking the RPMs up which means you are most likely severely breaking the speed limit (not that I care). A PD is going to let you have more fun, more often, on the street and as a DD. That's kind of how I look at it anyway.

Good luck with your decision. It's a headache choosing a FI kit. I'm looking to get a Paxton or Vortech kit real soon myself.

 

[Pincushin3819]

Great thing is, there are a lot of options for the S550 out there. But just look at that engine bay tho =) bonus is Performs well and Heat soak? idk man my IATs are good so far.

95% of people will never drive these cars to the max, might take it red light to red light, down the strip a few times or a quick highway pull. IF you drove the car hard over & over, pull after pull for 15 min + you will see a huge difference in performance in your whipple or any PD. There's nothing wrong with it, it serves it's purpose & looks awesome under the hood but if your really pushing the car heat soak is a factor that comes in to play .

I'm speaking more of the guys that auto x or roll race. Especially that line up a few roll races back to back, even when it's not your turn to race you still are all in to keep up with the pack. PD cars get slower quicker over the duration of the races. Seen them all do it, whipple, KB, TVS ect.

I have nothing against PD cars, I actually like them a lot even had two myself. I just like turbos & centrifugal better not even because of the heat soaking issue I just like the way they utilize the power throughout the rpms better.

 

[ShelbyGT350]

Only with Roush, Ford and TVS, The Whipple and Kenne Bell required no cutting of the K brace or timing gear cover.

You also don't have to cut the K-brace with the Edelbrock unit.

 

[jayman33]

Both kits will offer you more power than your stock engine can handle. The whipple kit is truly OE like quality, the minor details even when doing installs, everything is sealed and labeled and whipple goes out of their way to to the small finishing touches. Its truly a system hard to beat. The upkeep on the system is minimal, install and every few thousand miles (I do sooner) check the belt. To me the Whipple wins the category of two for better street blower.

Paxton is definitely less in price a little more upkeep, and to make it worth while you'll need a custom kit which we can provide.

In the end, they both serve their purpose. We offer options for both and have installed both more than I can count. Give us a shout if you have any questions.

 

[Obsol3te]

If the car is daily driven, i highly suggest going PD. The centri is NOT going to fix the low rpm LULL this high revving v8 seems to have. It feels almost gutless in the lower RPM n/a, and you'll continue to have that feeling with the centri blower im sure(correct me if im wrong) driving around town.
The pedal feel improves drastically with a PD blower on top of your mod motor

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