MT-82 to 6r80

[Socalmustang]

You do know that just because a person owns 1 auto car, and loves it, that does not mean they can't also own a stick car... I came from a 2012 GT500 with 690rwhp. I know how to drive a stick. ;) i preferred to go the auto route this go-round because of how well they do with a turbo setup, which is in my plans.

He doesn't know how to drive stick though.

I have no problem with auto guys, just the one's do a ton of talking for no apparent reason.

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[04SloSnake]

He doesn't know how to drive stick though.

I have no problem with auto guys, just the one's do a ton of talking for no apparent reason.

I know for a fact the person you quoted has owned multiple manual transmission cars. Enjoy your GT350 though.

 

[Socalmustang]

I know for a fact the person you quoted has owned multiple manual transmission cars. Enjoy your GT350 though.

:cheers:

 

[Laztug]

Why do people with Auto's try to justify auto's in the same way v6/ecoboost owners try to justify a non v8 Mustang? Just say I got an "Auto" because I want comfort and/or I cannot drive stick. Simple!

oh no auto's are faster in a quarter mile bla bla blaaa. How many people with autos actually drag race? Not a lot. But they all want to use the same excuse that they are faster in a 1/4 mile, hence automatics are the real deal this and that.

But yes, now autos are faster if you are drag racing. Unless it is some high end car ,or a DCT, auto's to me are not fun at all.

That being said, no offense intended to any of you with an auto. They're great for general audience.

Speaking of Drag Racing, in all honesty, it requires less skill compared to a track course. It is a different sport, not for me. But kudos to people who love it, I bet it is fun nevertheless.

People with autos don't drag race?!
I am also in Texas, I will be more than happy to show you how much quicker and constant my 6R80 is than your mt82.

I bought two 2015 autos because the MT82 in my 2012 could not take the power I planned to put in it. 6R80s go like hotcakes, I was not able to get my hands on one for a swap.

You must be new to the coyote platform, mustang enthusiasts have been trying to ditch their mt82s since 2011.

But don't take my word for it, look at the transmission section of the forum.




Here is a quick print screen I took for the mt faithful, why would anyone want an auto?!

Black MT82 FIX / issue related
Purple MT82 - Torsen issue
No issues for the 6r80
red non issues with the 6r80.
Pink bench racer post.
Orange suggestion about the section.



OP, the PCM in the 2015 is a complicated one. It's going to be a challenge to swap out a transmission without having someone willing to do an even swap.
Might want to contact Beefcake / JPC / lethal (to name a few) to see what issues you may come across changing transmissions in a 2015. I am sure they will be more than willing to point you in the right direction.
They are all a great group of guys who have a lot of experience with this platform.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Why do people with Auto's try to justify auto's in the same way v6/ecoboost owners try to justify a non v8 Mustang? Just say I got an "Auto" because I want comfort and/or I cannot drive stick. Simple!

oh no auto's are faster in a quarter mile bla bla blaaa. How many people with autos actually drag race? Not a lot. But they all want to use the same excuse that they are faster in a 1/4 mile, hence automatics are the real deal this and that.

But yes, now autos are faster if you are drag racing. Unless it is some high end car ,or a DCT, auto's to me are not fun at all.

That being said, no offense intended to any of you with an auto. They're great for general audience.

Speaking of Drag Racing, in all honesty, it requires less skill compared to a track course. It is a different sport, not for me. But kudos to people who love it, I bet it is fun nevertheless.

I'll let you make a pass in my low 9 second 95. After it carries the front wheels 20 feet you can talk to me about how much skill it takes. But talk to me after you clean your shorts of course.

 

[alimustafa23]

Why do people with manuals think that should be the only thing offered? Same problem.

Auto owner. Drag racer. Don't care, I'll beat you there.

Uhoh. I'm a poet and didn't knowit. [emoji16]

I never said manuals should be the only thing offered. I did say 'That being said, no offense intended to any of you with an auto. They're great for general audience.' Guess you didn't read my post or chose to ignore it. Eh that is fine. But you still have time. Come up with something better than a nursery rhyme ;)

People with autos don't drag race?!
I am also in Texas, I will be more than happy to show you how much quicker and constant my 6R80 is than your mt82.

I bought two 2015 autos because the MT82 in my 2012 could not take the power I planned to put in it. 6R80s go like hotcakes, I was not able to get my hands on one for a swap.

You must be new to the coyote platform, mustang enthusiasts have been trying to ditch their mt82s since 2011.

But don't take my word for it, look at the transmission section of the forum.




Here is a quick print screen I took for the mt faithful, why would anyone want an auto?!

Black MT82 FIX / issue related
Purple MT82 - Torsen issue
No issues for the 6r80
red non issues with the 6r80.
Pink bench racer post.
Orange suggestion about the section.




OP, the PCM in the 2015 is a complicated one. It's going to be a challenge to swap out a transmission without having someone willing to do an even swap.
Might want to contact Beefcake / JPC / lethal (to name a few) to see what issues you may come across changing transmissions in a 2015. I am sure they will be more than willing to point you in the right direction.
They are all a great group of guys who have a lot of experience with this platform.

Bro, I didn't say people with auto's don't drag race. I did mention 'But yes, now autos are faster if you are drag racing.' I did say a majority of people with auto get it for a different purpose than just drag racing. And I wasn't particularly talking about MT-82, but just a manual trans car.
However, I appreciate you educating me on this matter. You did it in a very mature and sensible way, unlike others. And I agree with you, the 6R80's are faster for drag racing and more reliable. That being said I still prefer a manual on this car, because I plan to track it and it is more fun for me.

I'll let you make a pass in my low 9 second 95. After it carries the front wheels 20 feet you can talk to me about how much skill it takes. But talk to me after you clean your shorts of course.

I said "Speaking of Drag Racing, in all honesty, it requires less skill compared to a track course." I didn't say, it take 'zero' skills. May be you didn't read my entire post. Anyways, more than my shorts, you should worry about your seats getting dirty. I can dry clean my shorts and guess what, my dry clean will be in 'auto' mode ;)

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I never said manuals should be the only thing offered. I did say 'That being said, no offense intended to any of you with an auto. They're great for general audience.' Guess you didn't read my post or chose to ignore it. Eh that is fine. But you still have time. Come up with something better than a nursery rhyme ;)



Bro, I didn't say people with auto's don't drag race. I did mention 'But yes, now autos are faster if you are drag racing.' I did say a majority of people with auto get it for a different purpose than just drag racing. And I wasn't particularly talking about MT-82, but just a manual trans car.
However, I appreciate you educating me on this matter. You did it in a very mature and sensible way, unlike others. And I agree with you, the 6R80's are faster for drag racing and more reliable. That being said I still prefer a manual on this car, because I plan to track it and it is more fun for me.



I said "Speaking of Drag Racing, in all honesty, it requires less skill compared to a track course." I didn't say, it take 'zero' skills. May be you didn't read my entire post. Anyways, more than my shorts, you should worry about your seats getting dirty. I can dry clean my shorts and guess what, my dry clean will be in 'auto' mode ;)

HaHa auto mode. All I'm sayings is once you get to a certain level of drag racing the of skill goes up exponentially. Anyone saying drag racing a mid 12 or higher second automatic car takes no skill is absolutely correct. A car at that power level will barely shake the tires on launch. Once you start running with the big boys it takes quite a bit of skill and probably more concentration that road racing because everything happens in 9 seconds or less. Much, much less if your a pro. Imagine doing 300MPH and your car decides it no longer wants to go straight. But arguing about which type of racing is more difficult is silly because either type takes a ton of skill to do properly! If either type of racing was easy we'd all be doing it for a living instead of our present boring job!;)

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

...and I thought I might read about a trans swap in this thread. Silly me.

 

[alimustafa23]

HaHa auto mode. All I'm sayings is once you get to a certain level of drag racing the of skill goes up exponentially. Anyone saying drag racing a mid 12 or higher second automatic car takes no skill is absolutely correct. A car at that power level will barely shake the tires on launch. Once you start running with the big boys it takes quite a bit of skill and probably more concentration that road racing because everything happens in 9 seconds or less. Much, much less if your a pro. Imagine doing 300MPH and your car decides it no longer wants to go straight. But arguing about which type of racing is more difficult is silly because either type takes a ton of skill to do properly! If either type of racing was easy we'd all be doing it for a living instead of our present boring job!;)

Ok, now that makes sense. I can't disagree with you.

 

[Chargedguard5.0]

Any idea how much something like this would cost? I'm in the same boat with too much time and money in this car to trade it in.

 

[JGRoush]

All you guys who say "it's more about the machine than the man" are effin hilarious!! lol I would love LOVE to see everyone one of you jump in a top fuel dragster, hell even a funny car & be even slightly competitive in a NHRA race!....dafuq outta here with that lol

 

[Old 5 Oh]

If I wanted to just press the gas pedal and race...I would've gotten an auto. I prefer a real challenge.

It would seem the larger challenge is having an intelligent conversation with one so blind he will not see.

If you won't admit that the AT is the better tool for the job in drag racing, I sure don't know how to have a discussion with you. Try to find a clutched manual transmission in any of the pro classes. They are just not there. It's not a winning setup, and it has nothing to do with the manhood of the drivers.

Now, if you want to limit your argument to "it's more fun to drive an MT," that makes some sense and most, including me, would agree most of the time. However, many of us enthusiasts drive our Mustangs in worlds where traffic is awful and 20-30 years of slogging that kind of road in a heavy-clutched Fox GT can make you think there's something to be said for a good AT. And it turns out we were right. Guys like you that insist there's only one solution and real men drive only manuals get pretty tiresome.

 

[Socalmustang]

It would seem the larger challenge is having an intelligent conversation with one so blind he will not see.

If you won't admit that the AT is the better tool for the job in drag racing, I sure don't know how to have a discussion with you. Try to find a clutched manual transmission in any of the pro classes. They are just not there. It's not a winning setup, and it has nothing to do with the manhood of the drivers.

Now, if you want to limit your argument to "it's more fun to drive an MT," that makes some sense and most, including me, would agree most of the time. However, many of us enthusiasts drive our Mustangs in worlds where traffic is awful and 20-30 years of slogging that kind of road in a heavy-clutched Fox GT can make you think there's something to be said for a good AT. And it turns out we were right. Guys like you that insist there's only one solution and real men drive only manuals get pretty tiresome.

Before you open your mouth you should probably do some previous reading on this thread.

I admit that the auto is faster and you get better 0-60 times, 1/4, etc.

What I hate is the auto guys always bashing the MT-82...literally in every thread you read...auto guys always talk about how it's trash, junk, and so on.

If you don't believe it go back and read the first page...now that gets tiresome! I never go around saying automatics are crap, I only talk about the manual because I drive one...I never go on the auto threads and chime in to talk shit about it. The only time I have something to say is when people start instigating the debate.

I stand by my statement and think it's more challenging to drive a manual and you can find out who's a better driver between a manual vs manual driver than an auto vs auto driver.

That's just my opinion and I don't mind having a constructive debate rather than people just trash-talking.

 

[Poppacapp]

Before you open your mouth you should probably do some previous reading on this thread.

I admit that the auto is faster and you get better 0-60 times, 1/4, etc.

What I hate is the auto guys always bashing the MT-82...literally in every thread you read...auto guys always talk about how it's trash, junk, and so on.

If you don't believe it go back and read the first page...now that gets tiresome! I never go around saying automatics are crap, I only talk about the manual because I drive one...I never go on the auto threads and chime in to talk shit about it. The only time I have something to say is when people start instigating the debate.

I stand by my statement and think it's more challenging to drive a manual and you can find out who's a better driver between a manual vs manual driver than an auto vs auto driver.

That's just my opinion and I don't mind having a constructive debate rather than people just trash-talking.

It's not about manual trannies being junk.... its about the MT-82 Chinese crap being junk. Ford should have sourced a better quality transmission for the car. The MT-82 is not exactly known to be a trouble free transmission.

 

[Five Oh Brian]

It's not about manual trannies being junk.... its about the MT-82 Chinese crap being junk. Ford should have sourced a better quality transmission for the car. The MT-82 is not exactly known to be a trouble free transmission.

Amen! I love manual transmissions. 6 of my 8 Mustangs have been manuals. However, the MT-82 is such a bad trans that it is the number one reason I traded my '11 Brembo GT (MT-82) for my '14 GT (6R80 automatic). So glad to have the 6R80 as it is a remarkable transmission, especially with tuning & a big stall converter. Now I don't know if I ever want a manual again.

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