Meth Injection with Whipple Stage 2

[EQWHINE]

Is anyone running meth with their Whipple setups? I don't have E85 available to me, so I'm looking for alternative fueling options.

What kits are you using and where are you spraying it? I'm looking at the Snow progressive kits.

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[Zrussian13]

I run it with turbos not a whipple. Been running it for 4 years now. Not tuned for it but I'm using it for the extra cooling and octane. I'm running the snow kit but not the progressive. I use two nozzles that combine for 14gal/ per hour that spray above 5lbs of boost. The kit works good and keeps the engine happy. I'm injecting about 8" from the throttle body in my charge pipe. Here's a picture of the adapter I used to mount the nozzles.

 

[illtal]

Is anyone running meth with their Whipple setups? I don't have E85 available to me, so I'm looking for alternative fueling options.

What kits are you using and where are you spraying it? I'm looking at the Snow progressive kits.

I spay about 24 gal/hr in my 2650. Keeps iats down.

 

[Zrussian13]

I spay about 24 gal/hr in my 2650. Keeps iats down.

Damn that's a lot of meth! You got a 5 gallon reservoir?

 

[illtal]

Damn that's a lot of meth! You got a 5 gallon reservoir?

Yes. It is 5 gallon but I think it doesn't come on until 7 psi. You need to coat the entire inside of the case to bring the temps down.

 

[Zrussian13]

Yes. It is 5 gallon but I think it doesn't come on until 7 psi. You need to coat the entire inside of the case to bring the temps down.

Where are you injecting from? I love my meth kit but it has one issue where if I drive hard in boost and spray but then turn the car off, without enough drive time or without a little semi hard driving, it will start and die the next time I start it. Fires right up second try everytime. I've discovered I get a little liquid meth build up at the throttle body. I assume from letting off the gas at the end of a pull the extra meth puddles there and on a restart it sucks it in as liquid and that's causing the issue. Only happens in this exact situation. I'm injecting about 8" away from the throttle body with dual nozzles to help atomization but curious how others are doing it?

 

[robvas]

Where are you injecting from? I love my meth kit but it has one issue where if I drive hard in boost and spray but then turn the car off, without enough drive time or without a little semi hard driving, it will start and die the next time I start it. Fires right up second try everytime. I've discovered I get a little liquid meth build up at the throttle body. I assume from letting off the gas at the end of a pull the extra meth puddles there and on a restart it sucks it in as liquid and that's causing the issue. Only happens in this exact situation. I'm injecting about 8" away from the throttle body with dual nozzles to help atomization but curious how others are doing it?

A lot of people put the jets in the supercharger case itself

 

[Mach1Racer]

I spay about 24 gal/hr in my 2650. Keeps iats down.

Please post pictures of this setup and more info.

HP level before and after Meth injection.
Intake Air Temp difference
Injection strategy

 

[illtal]

Where are you injecting from? I love my meth kit but it has one issue where if I drive hard in boost and spray but then turn the car off, without enough drive time or without a little semi hard driving, it will start and die the next time I start it. Fires right up second try everytime. I've discovered I get a little liquid meth build up at the throttle body. I assume from letting off the gas at the end of a pull the extra meth puddles there and on a restart it sucks it in as liquid and that's causing the issue. Only happens in this exact situation. I'm injecting about 8" away from the throttle body with dual nozzles to help atomization but curious how others are doing it?

Intake after the MAF. About "4 inches away from the 103mm tb. I never had any issues with hot or cold starts.

 

[illtal]

Please post pictures of this setup and more info.

HP level before and after Meth injection.
Intake Air Temp difference
Injection strategy

I only did an after 704 hp/605 tq @11lbs
I also had blower spacer plates
It was injected in the elbow about 4-6 inches from the tb. I'll have to put the pix up later

Please post pictures of this setup and more info.

HP level before and after Meth injection.
Intake Air Temp difference
Injection strategy

I'm actually probably going to sell my setup since I'm turbo now.

 

[Zrussian13]

Intake after the MAF. About "4 inches away from the 103mm tb. I never had any issues with hot or cold starts.

Interesting... Hot or cold never mattered, just how close to the end of trip the hits were?

 

[Zrussian13]

A lot of people put the jets in the supercharger case itself

Not an option for me!

 

[illtal]

Interesting... Hot or cold never mattered, just how close to the end of trip the hits were?

Well. Probably that could be an issue. I know on my car, before I went got the bigger TB every now and then there was a slow start or even a missed start at the gas station. At the time I did the TB and air box, I also did plates which slowed the heat transfer immensely. Staying out of boost the IATs were only 10-15 degrees over ambient.

Also the IAT sensor on the eb2650 is In the back of the case via a breakout harness.

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