Mach 1 Oil Pan Replacement

[Rob_R]

Unfortunately, my '22 Mach 1 with 1700 miles needs a replacement oil pan. I purchased the car 1 year ago after waiting a year for it to be built. I put the car up on the lift when I got home from the dealer after purchasing. It was a 400-450 mile trip home. There was evidence a minor oil leak . I couldn't tell if the leak was from the drain plug or from behind the heat shield\wire connector bracket on the left\driver side pan. I assumed it was the drain plug because that area always had oil on it and that air turbulence when driving was the cause for the oil being on that side of pan. Since it was minor leak, I would just clean it up and planned on replacing the drain plug on the first oil change. I changed the oil and drain plug in September and kept an eye on things......still leaking. I decided to not clean it for 100-150 miles to see what it looked like.

I made an appointment at the dealer that took a month to schedule just for them to look at it. They say the oil pan needs to be replaced. I am fairly bummed about this as I understand the front subframe needs to be dropped. I am assuming that I will get my Mach back with broken wire clips and other sloppy work. Anyone have their front subframe dropped by the dealer and what was the outcome? Anything I should look for?

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[TEAsGrabber]

That sucks!!! Good luck with the fix!!

 

[Ratical]

I am looking into the 2024 mustang oil pan. It is a steel unit with threaded drain plug.

 

[sakman84]

I am looking into the 2024 mustang oil pan. It is a steel unit with threaded drain plug.

Correct, they went back to steel instead of the "composite".

If I was in OP's shoes I would try and work a deal for the steel pan, even if I had to pay a bit to make that happen.

 

[Rob_R]

I am looking into the 2024 mustang oil pan. It is a steel unit with threaded drain plug.

Correct, they went back to steel instead of the "composite".

If I was in OP's shoes I would try and work a deal for the steel pan, even if I had to pay a bit to make that happen.

Thanks for bringing up the steel oil pan on the 24s. I didn't know that Ford made that change. The dealer has the replacement oil pan on order with whatever parts are needed to facilitate installation of the replacement pan.

Do we know if anyone has made the switch from composite to the '24 steel oil pans? I don't know if the steel oil pan requires a new oil pickup and dipstick as well as any wiring brackets. Based on my previous experience, the parts dept at the dealer who is going to do the work, would need to have their hand held for ordering the parts. If I was going to try to get the dealer to order the pan, I would need to know what parts were required to do the oil pan upgrade\conversion.

 

[Da great justin]

Thanks for bringing up the steel oil pan on the 24s. I didn't know that Ford made that change. The dealer has the replacement oil pan on order with whatever parts are needed to facilitate installation of the replacement pan.

Do we know if anyone has made the switch from composite to the '24 steel oil pans? I don't know if the steel oil pan requires a new oil pickup and dipstick as well as any wiring brackets. Based on my previous experience, the parts dept at the dealer who is going to do the work, would need to have their hand held for ordering the parts. If I was going to try to get the dealer to order the pan, I would need to know what parts were required to do the oil pan upgrade\conversion.

hey there, did you manage to see if the 2024 oil pan fits on the s550? Thinking of getting a metal one myself

 

[Rob_R]

hey there, did you manage to see if the 2024 oil pan fits on the s550? Thinking of getting a metal one myself

Unfortunately, I did not. I brought up the subject of using a '24 oil pan on my Mach with the Service Advisor. The Service Advisor got back to me a few days later and said Ford would not support the change since this was warranty work. So a new, non-leaking composite pan was installed.

BTW - my original oil pan, which leaked from day 1, was diagnosed as leaking at one of the wire harness bracket attachment points.
The dealer did a great job on the oil pan change, although they did screw up a bit on installing the leading edge of the belly pan resulting in the lower splitter to be installed incorrectly. This is what I found after dropping the lower splitter. I am working on straightening that out as I type.

 

[Da great justin]

That’s too bad I’m sorry to hear about the splitter. It’s also too bad that they didn’t want to get you a metal oil pan. I just wanted to get a metal one because I plan on dropping the engine so I can keep my strut tower brace when I install a whipple. Bit First of course I wanted to build the engine and install a metal oil pan at the same time. Just can’t decide if I should get s regular ford performance one or a race oil pan

 

[Prodigal]

Unfortunately, I did not. I brought up the subject of using a '24 oil pan on my Mach with the Service Advisor. The Service Advisor got back to me a few days later and said Ford would not support the change since this was warranty work. So a new, non-leaking composite pan was installed.

BTW - my original oil pan, which leaked from day 1, was diagnosed as leaking at one of the wire harness bracket attachment points.
The dealer did a great job on the oil pan change, although they did screw up a bit on installing the leading edge of the belly pan resulting in the lower splitter to be installed incorrectly. This is what I found after dropping the lower splitter. I am working on straightening that out as I type.

Jeezus, you got to kidding me.

 

[Rob_R]

That’s too bad I’m sorry to hear about the splitter. It’s also too bad that they didn’t want to get you a metal oil pan. I just wanted to get a metal one because I plan on dropping the engine so I can keep my strut tower brace when I install a whipple. Bit First of course I wanted to build the engine and install a metal oil pan at the same time. Just can’t decide if I should get s regular ford performance one or a race oil pan

It would be nice if someone knew all of the part numbers for the new steel pan. Items like oil pump pickup, windage tray, gasket/seals, wire harness brackets, and the dimensions of the steel pan would be crucial to a successful installation of the new pan. Maybe someday Ford will release a retrofit kit with all of the bits and bobs.

 

[Rob_R]

Jeezus, you got to kidding me.

You can't make up stuff like this.

 

[NightmareMoon]

Yall be excited about a metal pan, but what you should probably care more about is if the pan is baffled well and does it’s job in the oil system. The 15-17 cars had a steel pan, but the functionality of it wasnt great.

Theres also the GT500 pan.. high capacity, aluminum and well baffled for hard cornering.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

If you're looking for an upgraded pan, the GT 500 pan is the best option. It's cast aluminum, baffled, and has a higher capacity like the gen 3 composite pan. The gen 1 and 2 pans are basic steel pans with an 8qt capacity and basic baffles. The gen 4 pan may be steel, but most likely has basic baffles like the gen 1 and 2 pans.

 

[NightmareMoon]

The point is, lets find out if they’re actually good before we all jump off that specific cliff.

Its possible they’re great, but the material isnt the whole story.

 

[ice445]

The point is, lets find out if they’re actually good before we all jump off that specific cliff.

Its possible they’re great, but the material isnt the whole story.

Yeah, lots of old school thinking in here. "STEEL IS ALWAYS BETTER" isnt some objective truth. The design specifications consider the material used. If plastic can work for a valve cover, why not an oil pan, lol.

If anything the material was changed back to steel for cost reasons, not because they found out the composite doesn't work.

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