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Kind of like where Lund got their forced induction GOAT tunes. -- AED.

You gotta go back 10 years or so, but it's out there.
Please link it. Im open to taking it a look at it....unlike some of the "I could only watch yolo for 2 seconds before closing out the video" crybabies.
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Yea 10-15 years ago it was harder to lock a tune, so everyone copied everyone. Now it's all some big secret.
10-15 years ago the majority of tuners worked together amd all belonged to a tuning group and bounced ideas and worked together to make the platforms better
 

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everybody "steals" everybody else's work. Ford stole Mopar and GM designs, control software, ECU tables and so on. And GM/Mopar do the same to Ford and nobody gets their panties in a knot. It's how the world works.

I expect the reason why Lund encrypts their tables these days is:
1) conceal just how little they actually do
2) have legal cover to claim trade secret/proprietary
3) capture the customer
There is no trade secret when they are only enhancing Ford's file. What are you talking about?

This is why none of this EVER lands in court. The tuners don't own shit and none of it is proprietary to them.
 

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Please link it. Im open to taking it a look at it....unlike some of the "I could only watch yolo for 2 seconds before closing out the video" crybabies.

Ill do some digging and link... its on SVTP. Ill have to find it but it's a hell of a read lmaooo
 

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10-15 years ago, everyone was stealing from this guy:

Who know how much further we'd be if it didn't get tragically gunned down after a gambling debt dispute.

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Jesse was that clever, he even figured out how to save weight running no brake callipers …

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Kinda sounds like Beefcake has some insight on this and had a response to the allegations along with a reply from Jon sr. I cannot say who is right in that back and forth.....neither can you.
Nice backpedal!!!

The point is this: They all steal from each other and that's a well documented fact back 20 years ago.

Get a clue
 

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Let me make more popcorn.
 

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Nice backpedal!!!

The point is this: They all steal from each other and that's a well documented fact back 20 years ago.

Get a clue

0 backpedal. You want me to say Shaun is right based on an allegation. Beefcake at that time said they had such tune already for a while and lund didnt feel like it was worth hammering at it. Lund said he never used the tune he was sent and later Jr took on the task to figure it out. Picking the "correct" side in that is no different than covering your eyes and throwing a dart at a bullseye. Glad you love you AED tune, welcome to M6g newbie.
 

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0 backpedal. You want me to say Shaun is right based on an allegation. Beefcake at that time said they had such tune already for a while and lund didnt feel like it was worth hammering at it. Lund said he never used the tune he was sent and later Jr took on the task to figure it out. Picking the "correct" side in that is no different than covering your eyes and throwing a dart at a bullseye. Glad you love you AED tune, welcome to M6g newbie.
You have poor reading comp. As mentioned earlier, Ive never been tuned by Shaun/AED and Lund is my current tuner.

None of that matter/I have no dog in this fight because again -- they are all thiefs.

I can link 5 more threads from that era that are all similar about Lund stealing, Hypermotive stealing, BBR stealing, etc etc etc

Dont white-knight for any of them is all im saying, but you do you boo.
 

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You have poor reading comp. As mentioned earlier, Ive never been tuned by Shaun/AED and Lund is my current tuner.

None of that matter/I have no dog in this fight because again -- they are all thiefs.

I can link 5 more threads from that era that are all similar about Lund stealing, Hypermotive stealing, BBR stealing, etc etc etc

Dont white-knight for any of them is all im saying, but you do you boo.
cool story.....
 
 








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