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Why wouldn't there be...?

The computer thinks you're giving it more gas. Makes absolutely no difference what mode the car is in. It's simply telling the ecu that the pedal is pushed further than it really is...
Hahaha this has been explained 1 million times and still it's being over analyzed....the struggle is real.:eyebulge:
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...Still no answer to the snow/wet mode?
...what? What answer is needed? It's the exact equivalent of putting a normal car in snow/wet more, and giving it more gas haha


Hahaha this has been explained 1 million times and still it's being over analyzed....the struggle is real.:eyebulge:
lmao, I just don't understand anymore. This is a very simple product with a very simple and specific thing it does :frusty:
 
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It's simple it puts more voltage to the throttle body and opens it up quicker

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On my way out for a test ride but here is what I did with my knob. It's wire tied nice nice and all I have to do is reach under and give it a turn. No permanent mounting or eye sore here :)
Mounted mine the same way for the same reasons. Took maybe 10 minutes for the install and satisfied with the results.
 

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So actually in Normal Mode you are burning more fuel than you were before, similar to the sport mode before the application. Still no answer to the snow/wet mode?
I actually don't think you're burning more fuel in Normal Mode with the device on. The reason is that you now how much gas you need to get the car moving to a speed you like. If anything, the fuel burn is slight because you're opening the throttle faster than wha you're accustom to. However, the computer still switches to a higher gear the way it was programed to. Because of that, the fuel burn is still the same. Fuel burn is more in sports because sport stays in a lower gear longer. At lower gear, it burns faster.

Snow/wet mode, I answered that earlier. In my opinion, it's a little less than what normal mode is before the device installed. Hard to quantify, but I will say about 20 percent less than "regular" normal mode.
 

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The response and the experience you get from the device isn't as easy to explain as some of you guys are making it out to be. The questions people are asking are legit. Frankly, before I ordered it, I wasn't completely sure how it worked. Some of the explanation could only be completely understood by actually experiencing the device. When I finally experienced it, it wasn't what I expected because my expectations were high due to the positive reviews from other members. I think this just shows how difficult it is to explain what this device does.

Here is another way of seeing this. In normal mode before the device, you need to have a deeper foot travel for the computer to realize you want a lot of gas. Once the computer realizes, there is still a delay since the car needs to downshift to get you that power. With the device on, you lessen the first step, since you need less foot travel before the computer realizes you want gas. But the delay in downshift is still there. But the differences in the first step is noticeable and significant in giving you that experience of faster response. In automatics at least, this is what people are talking about when they say things to the tune of "faster response."

Anyway. This is how I think of it. Maybe others have said this much already. Just thought I offer a slightly different explanation.

I will say that in S+ before the device, I didn't think there was any lag. But S+ now is even faster. It's almost like I tap on the gas during city driving and the car is wanting spin the tires. I exaggerate, but the difference is very noticeable.

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The response and the experience you get from the device isn't as easy to explain as some of you guys are making it out to be. The questions people are asking are legit. Frankly, before I ordered it, I wasn't completely sure how it worked. Some of the explanation could only be completely understood by actually experiencing the device. When I finally experienced it, it wasn't what I expected because my expectations were high due to the positive reviews from other members. I think this just shows how difficult it is to explain what this device does.

Here is another way of seeing this. In normal mode before the device, you need to have a deeper foot travel for the computer to realize you want a lot of gas. Once the computer realizes, there is still a delay since the car needs to downshift to get you that power. With the device on, you lessen the first step, since you need less foot travel before the computer realizes you want gas. But the delay in downshift is still there. But the differences in the first step is noticeable and significant in giving you that experience of faster response. In automatics at least, this is what people are talking about when they say things to the tune of "faster response."

Anyway. This is how I think of it. Maybe others have said this much already. Just thought I offer a slightly different explanation.

I will say that in S+ before the device, I didn't think there was any lag. But S+ now is even faster. It's almost like I tap on the gas during city driving and the car is wanting spin the tires. I exaggerate, but the difference is very noticeable.

Hope this helps.
You're assessment is spot on.

Just installed mine.

Without re-stating what you said (as it is on point), I'll make my impression short.

The throttle response is more responsive especially at stop and slower speeds. I'd estimate the first 30% of throttle travel shows a noticeable improvement.

Its not night and day as some might suggest though (even in Sport+), but you will notice the difference from stock.

Is it noticeable? Yes.
Is it a welcome improvement over stock? Absolutely yes.
Does it make driving more enjoyable? Yes - especially from a stop and at speeds below 60 mph.
Would I purchase it again / Was it worth its cost? Yes

I now understand why some people say they felt it stopped working after a couple days. Its easy to get used to the increase in throttle response.
 

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I'm still getting 26mpg on highway on normal with the pedal max; doing 70 constant; I still don't why people get a auto in a V-8; Never can figure that out.. Personally I think the GT should only be made in 6 speed clutch...Don't get me wrong; Clutch is a pain in traffic jam but you just get more out of the car and its so much fun to drive..

After using it a couple weeks I have gotten used to it and it seems like its not working but it is; I have gotten adjusted to it; If I smash the pedal it will remind you!
 

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I finally got a chance to drive my car this morning on my way to work. This is the first time I've actually driven it since I put the pedalmax in. My car is a 6spd GT Premium performance pack. Initial impressions are great. Basically this device makes you have to use a lot less pedal pressure/travel to get the car going. Here is my breakdown.

Normal Mode: The car feels as responsive as it did in the stock track mode, however the little surge/hiccup around 2-3k rpms is still there. It feels like the throttle blade just momentarily closes a bit and then reopens giving a surging feeling. My car has done this from day one and it is clearly an ECU programming issue. I did not expect the pedal to fix that as that is not what it is designed to do. I can see myself now driving in Normal mode on a more regular basis (I drive in Track mode 99% of the time.)

Sport Mode: Didn't test as I never saw a reason to use this mode. It's either track or normal mode for me.

Track mode: This mode has always felt better from the factory and now with the pedalmax it is even better. Again all it does is make it to where you have to modulate the gas pedal less in order to get the car moving as you normally would. Basically it just makes the throttle more sensitive to input. I will probably still continue to do 99% of my driving in this mode as the surge experienced in normal mode isn't noticeable in track mode.

Snow/Wet: Another mode I have no use for but I tried it out for the northern guys. The car is still a slug in this mode but the throttle response is a little better. As someone posted earlier it's like a slightly tamed down version of the stock Normal mode but you don't feel like you are going to die pulling out in traffic because the damn car wont go. In my honest opinion this mode is also useless. If you live up north you should be able to control ANY car you purchase in the snow. You have to learn to use your right foot.

Conclusions:
Can you feel a difference in all driving modes? YES
Does it make you squeal tires from every stop light? NO (unless you want it to)
Does it make the car feel more responsive to pedal input/pressure? ABSOLUTELY
Is it worth the money? YES
Would I buy again? YES

This should be in the list of first mods to do the car. It just makes the car feel alive.

PS. I bought the regular pedal max without the control knob and all driving is done in the factory 100% mode. I see no reason to ever dial it down. If you need nannies to control your right foot in inclement weather you need to buy some shit box like a prius.
 

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I still don't why people get a auto in a V-8; Never can figure that out.. Personally I think the GT should only be made in 6 speed clutch
Because the auto is faster down the 1/4 strip and been proven over and over. While it used to be true the auto shifted slower than a manual, these new autos shift even faster than a manual. You're also going to see them go from a 6 to a 10 speed auto in the next few years making the auto even faster.

The auto has also proven to be much stronger than the MT82 manual when more hp is added.

Don't expect autos to go away by any means, this is a consumer car built for the masses not a super car. When I want to shift the car I put it into Sport and use the paddles purely. It works perfectly well just no clutch to mess with.
 

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Based on this thread I decided to take the plunge. It arrived last week, but I was traveling on business and had to wait until today to install it (which was a breeze). Everything I've read is spot-on. I tried several 0-60 times using the car's track app, and I was able to reduce my time by 2/10 of a second. I tried it quite a few times with the setting at 10 and the setting at 0. I will need to work on my pedal discipline, primarily when in Sport mode, since I found myself overdoing it at very slow speeds. Overall, I'm extremely happy. I didn't think Normal mode was all that sluggish until I compared it with the 10 and 0 settings...boy was I wrong. Great product!
 

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Based on this thread I decided to take the plunge. It arrived last week, but I was traveling on business and had to wait until today to install it (which was a breeze). Everything I've read is spot-on. I tried several 0-60 times using the car's track app, and I was able to reduce my time by 2/10 of a second. I tried it quite a few times with the setting at 10 and the setting at 0. I will need to work on my pedal discipline, primarily when in Sport mode, since I found myself overdoing it at very slow speeds. Overall, I'm extremely happy. I didn't think Normal mode was all that sluggish until I compared it with the 10 and 0 settings...boy was I wrong. Great product!


I forgot to post my 0-60 time. I consistently hit 5.4 seconds with the car in "D" and the toggle on Sport Plus. I did not paddle shift. I tip the scales at 250, so I was pleased with the time and no tune.



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I won't be home for a few months to try mine. Guys with the mt82 do you notice any improvement with shifting?
Yeah, I've found blipping the throttle on a downshift is much easier with this thing. Totally worth every penny.

Because the auto is faster down the 1/4 strip and been proven over and over. While it used to be true the auto shifted slower than a manual, these new autos shift even faster than a manual. You're also going to see them go from a 6 to a 10 speed auto in the next few years making the auto even faster.

The auto has also proven to be much stronger than the MT82 manual when more hp is added.

Don't expect autos to go away by any means, this is a consumer car built for the masses not a super car. When I want to shift the car I put it into Sport and use the paddles purely. It works perfectly well just no clutch to mess with.
Yes, I suppose if you were buying a car to purely drag race, then yes and auto is the better choice. But for a daily driver, a torque converter absolutely sucks. It creates so much lag in the throttle response it makes any car feel like a buick. Sure, you can try to mask it a little with transmission tuning and devices like this, but it's never gone.

Automatic to be faster at the strip, go for it. Every single other application and driving scenario, a proper clutch for proper throttle response.
 

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