If you were buying a stripped GT with one option what would it be?

[shogun32]

So, not possible to just do a firmware update? I guess the dampers are way different?

the orifice bias is different. Though alternate tuning would be icing on the cake.

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[Ghorse]

I have a base 2018 GT. Only option being the 10r80. I like to build the rest of it the way I want it. I hate that you have to pick things you want in a package, just like cable tv.

 

[degajake]

I have a premium 21’ with the only option being the b&o system. I knew i’d be changing a lot and the only thing I wanted straight from factory was decent speakers

 

[RacerX#99]

Don't knock those 60s baby.

Properly optioned Big Block vettes were turning upper 11s with minor mods. So were the Hemis. 302 Z-28s were in the 12s no problem. And they could do it on bias street tires.

The Mustang is portly anyway you slice it.

There's lot to be said for a 3200lb car with 460++ HP.

One thing for sure. HP is in such abundance, weight is not the issue it once was on the street.

Ask ANY racer how they feel about weight?

I would not want to go past the 140mph mark in almost any car from the 6-70s era. They like to take off like airplanes. My 1963 C2 was literally shaped like a wing.

I spent many days at E-town with a bone stock 428 CJ and never got into the 13,s. Tuned 50 GTs are getting into the 11s. Gotta love that 10 speed. Everybody knows the same story "the older I get the faster I was"

 

[Firsttexan]

I spent many days at E-town with a bone stock 428 CJ and never got into the 13,s. Tuned 50 GTs are getting into the 11s. Gotta love that 10 speed. Everybody knows the same story "the older I get the faster I was"

AT 10.25 to 1 compression and a hydraulic cam I am not surprised.
428 CJ is no LS6 BB vette.

Oh,what year was your CJ?

This one has 2x4s still a slug. But real pretty.

Older I get the less yarns I spin.

 

[TrackMustang]

The black accent package. The base GT is great, manual trans is a must. Everything else I want to build my way. The PP stuff is like cable, sure you can have HBO but you have to pay for Showtime too. No thanks.

 

[young at heart]

AT 10.25 to 1 compression and a hydraulic cam I am not surprised.
428 CJ is no LS6 BB vette.

Oh,what year was your CJ?

August 1971 Car Life Magazine:

1971

Chevrolet

Corvette

13.72

102.04

454 LS6

450

4-sd

3.36

CL 8/71

There‘s your LS6 BB Corvette.

The 1968 427/435 3x2 was actually a little faster:

13.30@108 per Hi-Performance Cars mag 5/68.

Current stock Mustang GTs =high 11s—>low 12s/~118+.

Understand that as was the practice in those days these old cars were likely juiced a bit by the manufacturer.

It makes me sad to crush my own memories but it’s just math. And I do really love the level of performance from these bone stock GTs. It’s hard to believe for the $.

 

[Firsttexan]

August 1971 Car Life Magazine:

1971

Chevrolet

Corvette

13.72

102.04

454 LS6

450

4-sd

3.36

CL 8/71

There‘s your LS6 BB Corvette.

The 1968 427/435 3x2 was actually a little faster:

13.30@108 per Hi-Performance Cars mag 5/68.

Current stock Mustang GTs =high 11s—>low 12s/~118+.

Understand that as was the practice in those days these old cars were likely juiced a bit by the manufacturer.

It makes me sad to crush my own memories but it’s just math. And I do really love the level of performance from these bone stock GTs. It’s hard to believe for the $.

Speed of the current Mustang was never in question.

Don't believe everything you read.

A little perspective.



3.31 is a cruising gear. On the strip these ran 4.56 gears in many cases
Transmission and rear end choices will bring that into the 11s


I understood it well. I was there.

Your dream is still alive.

 

[Firsttexan]

Yup 8" screen and the rocker switches.

Thanks for the redirection.

 

[young at heart]

Don't believe everything you read.

A little perspective.





Transmission and rear end choices will bring that into the 11s

Might want to up your magazine research.Net has a ton of it. But you have to know how it fits in the context of reality.

I understood it well. I was there.

Your dream is still alive.

You can’t benchmark a car being currently tested. No telling what it’s history is.

I only show magazine research because many folks like to see things in print. These are all very credible sources and had no ax to grind. Yes, they’re all over the internet and most say the same thing: these cars were low 14–>high 13 second machines with terminal mph bumping a little over 100.

I have a pretty good grip on the realty and context of those days myself. In addition to owning GTOs, Chevelles, Camaros and Corvettes from 1965 on, I became a franchised Chevrolet dealer in 1971. I was not only there, I lived and worked it every day. These cars were an awful lot of fun; they sounded great and felt great to drive. But none of them were 11 or even 12 second cars bone stock, much as they felt like it at the time.

 

[br_an]

Cloth FRAME only base front bucket seats

Fixed it for you

 

[Firsttexan]

You can’t benchmark a car being currently tested. No telling what it’s history is.

I only show magazine research because many folks like to see things in print. These are all very credible sources and had no ax to grind. Yes, they’re all over the internet and most say the same thing: these cars were low 14–>high 13 second machines with terminal mph bumping a little over 100.

I have a pretty good grip on the realty and context of those days myself. In addition to owning GTOs, Chevelles, Camaros and Corvettes from 1965 on, I became a franchised Chevrolet dealer in 1971. I was not only there, I lived and worked it every day. These cars were an awful lot of fun; they sounded great and felt great to drive. But none of them were 11 or even 12 second cars bone stock, much as they felt like it at the time.

I appreciate your point of view, I never said "bone stock". Please read the threads. Saves a lot of back and forth.

I said, "Properly optioned Big Block vettes were turning upper 11s with minor mods".
Without actually saying it,that would be your L-88 427s, LS6 454s with factory optional gearing and trans options. Chambered exhaust, dealer installed factory headers ETC..
Camaros were doing similar things.

The magazine test all sucked back then IMO.

 

[Stymee]

The 6sp in a GT is made of glass, its junk

PP1 for the brakes, wheels, better tire, mild susp mods, for sure are pricey but still imho a 301 PP1 A10 is it

My non PP1 301 GT went 11.91@119
Bone Stock at Atco on a tire

On the factory Pirellis it went 12.08@117
Bone stock

55 degrees out
These Mustangs r no joke and I’m a GM Guy

 

[young at heart]

I appreciate your point of view, I never said "bone stock". Please read the threads. Saves a lot of back and forth.

I said, "Properly optioned Big Block vettes were turning upper 11s with minor mods".
Without actually saying it,that would be your L-88 427s, LS6 454s with factory optional gearing and trans options. Chambered exhaust, dealer installed factory headers ETC..
Camaros were doing similar things.

The magazine test all sucked back then IMO.

firsttexan, you indeed did not say bone stock but I did and that was the frame of reference I threw out there to start with. Actually I think I said “showroom stock” and “stock tires” but you get the point.

To me bone stock vs. bone stock is the only possible valid comparison when you’re talking about cars 50+ years apart from each other.

Obviously others may disagree but it’s just what seems reasonable to me.

 

[TonyNJ]

Folks I’m gonna tell you what: unless you track your GT I believe the PP1/PP2 packages are really not about much more than bragging rights and bench racing. Just witness all the guys that list it in their sigs like it were a separate model. But in reality, for street use it would be very difficult to go any faster than what you can already do in a stock GT without killing yourself and somebody else or going to jail. My stock GT can easily pretty much hang with my buddy’s GT3 RS at the Tail, and he’s a much better driver than I am.

I‘ve probably hit very early triple digits in mine a few times doing pulls and the car feels perfectly stable and safe. I don’t think a PP would do a thing for it during that brief moment. If I were going to spend that kind of money I’d be looking at forced induction. Accelerating a little harder is always thrilling when you can find a little clear road ahead.

Anyway it’s just my opinion and I can’t prove I’m right any more that anyone else can prove me wrong I suppose.

It's not always about "going faster" or "hanging with your buddies GT$". And it's definitely not about killing yourself. Sometimes people just want different, or a different experience or feeling in their ride.

There... you're proved wrong.

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