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Some quick background:
Bought the car used w/ 1k miles on it in 2016. Supercharged it (Vortech v3 blower @ 6psi) in 2017. Put about 10k miles on it w/ supercharger installed. Multiple track days per year while supercharged.

This past October, I took the car to Watkins Glen - It was a complete riot! At the end - and I mean very end (pulling into the pits) of the last session, my oil pressure went from perfect to almost 0psi, instantly. I was lucky enough to notice it right away, turned the car off, and had it towed to a shop.

After ripping everything apart, here's what we found:

1) Oil pickup line connector tore, causing the oil pump to cavitate. Likely Cause: extended time at high RPM and/or extended, extreme gforces.
Thankfully, as I said, I got lucky and noticed this right away. As a result, nearly no damage was done. A few bearings were lightly scuffed, but that's about it.

My resolution: purchased a Moroso anti-slosh race oil pan, windage tray, and oil pickup.


2) Plasma coating on two of the cylinder walls was starting to significantly erode and cause warping. Likely Cause: The shop I had tear the motor apart said they've seen this on almost every GT350 they've torn apart. They attribute it to poor design, and inadequate thickness of the Plasma coating. Running the engine under boost likely accelerated this, but wasn't necessarily the reason for it.

My resolution: since the cylinder walls were starting to deform, and the block can't be honed, really the only option is to sleeve it. But, since the cylinder walls were deforming, that means the pistons were likely starting to abnormally wear as well. So, I decided to just replace the entire short block w/ an L&M race-prepped unit.

It was an expensive track day :(
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Sorry to hear about your expensive track day. I've been there--definitely not fun.

Happy to chat if you'd like. One thing I'd most definitely recommend - switch from the Moroso to the GT500 oil pan, pickup, and oil pump.

This setup is proven, relatively easy to get, and works fantastic. It'll far outperform the Moroso unit.
 
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Thanks so much for the suggestion!

Re the moroso hardware - are you aware of any people that have had problems with that setup, or is it just your opinion that the GT500 hardware is designed better?
 

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Thanks so much for the suggestion!

Re the moroso hardware - are you aware of any people that have had problems with that setup, or is it just your opinion that the GT500 hardware is designed better?
I don't know anyone running a Moroso setup (that's a bit of a red flag, IMHO). And when you look at the designs closely, you'll see that the GT500 pan has more capacity, better baffling, and will be far less likely to crack because it's cash and not welded (I cracked my FP350S steel pan in multiple spots due to vibrations). I think it boils down to it being an unknown on this car and offering no benefits over the GT500 setup.
 

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Thank you very much. I will consider the GT500 setup. Really appreciate your help.
 

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Quick somewhat related question... when swapping out to the GT500 oil pan, is there a different transmission clutch housing that's available that makes use of the mounting points integrated in the back of the pan?
 

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Quick somewhat related question... when swapping out to the GT500 oil pan, is there a different transmission clutch housing that's available that makes use of the mounting points integrated in the back of the pan?
Different housing, same part number. If you order one today, you'll get the new one.
 

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Was this a GT500 specific change - any possibility the 19-20s (especially the 20s ;) ) 350s have the better pan/pickup?
 

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Was this a GT500 specific change - any possibility the 19-20s (especially the 20s ;) ) 350s have the better pan/pickup?
Yeah - it's an entirely different unit with no interchangeability. You either need to use all GT500 parts (i.e. the pan, the pickup, and the tube) or the GT350 parts. Couldn't use the the 500 pan/pickup with GT350 pump - the mounting part is different.

The bellhousing was a change, though. Started in 19 I think
 

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Different housing, same part number. If you order one today, you'll get the new one.
Just to make sure I understand, does that mean I need to order a new transmission clutch housing as well since I have a 2016?
 

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Just to make sure I understand, does that mean I need to order a new transmission clutch housing as well since I have a 2016?
I'm trying to find a pic of the two, but not having any luck. Essentially the new bellhousing has some extra bolt holes that can thread into the extra bolt holes in the GT500 oil pan. It's not needed, but would add some rigidity and strength when used. I'll try to grab some pics
 

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Thanks for the interesting write up

Out of curiosity, has anyone heard of similar issues with cylinder plasma coating erosion on the Gen 3 Coyotes?
 
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I'm trying to find a pic of the two, but not having any luck. Essentially the new bellhousing has some extra bolt holes that can thread into the extra bolt holes in the GT500 oil pan. It's not needed, but would add some rigidity and strength when used. I'll try to grab some pics
Ahhh ok that makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
 

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Isn’t the 12:1 compression ratio of the voodoo too high for boost. With 6lbs of boost prob over 16:1 effective compression ratio.
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