How Functional is a Functional Rear Wing?

[1958cyclist]

Pitt Race?

Yes...

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[tosha]

Yes...

Ooohh, awesome track. hope I can come there again next year. turn 17 is a lot of fun, though in context of this thread, I didn't feel any need for extra aero there. I wasn't going full speed due to heat management, to be fair.

The first time I felt a need to do something with back end was at Watkins glen when braking into turn 1 - it's a downhill braking area from pretty fast straight and if you brake hard enough, the rear end unsettles so much that the poo may start to come out . if you've never done this track, I absolutely recommend to go there. total blast.

 

[TeeLew]

A complete aside: A hundred years ago, Saleen made a hideous biplane rear wing. I may or may not have been working there at the time (those documents have been sealed). Internally, it was known as the 'DFA' wing for "Does f--k all."

I'm guessing most of these wings see about the same amount of development time as that one did.

 

[Concretevol]

Well just to give my to cents....I track a GT350 with an anderson composites spoiler with adjustable wicker bill combined with a front splitter and the car feels really balanced. I keep considering a wing but I think I would need additional hood vents to keep car neutral.

 

[TeeLew]

Well just to give my to cents....I track a GT350 with an anderson composites spoiler with adjustable wicker bill combined with a front splitter and the car feels really balanced. I keep considering a wing but I think I would need additional hood vents to keep car neutral.

I bet this is better option than any of the lower mount wings. You're talking about the 'Ducktail' or something like that?

 

[Concretevol]

I bet this is better option than any of the lower mount wings. You're talking about the 'Ducktail' or something like that?

Here is the type I have or very close to it..... Really like the look of it and with wicker bill all the way up I think the spec is 100-130 lbs downforce over 100 mph? Not positive that is totally going off memory.

2015 - 2022 Mustang Carbon Fiber Track Pack Style Spoiler with Adjusta | Anderson Composites

 

[TeeLew]

Here is the type I have or very close to it..... Really like the look of it and with wicker bill all the way up I think the spec is 100-130 lbs downforce over 100 mph? Not positive that is totally going off memory.

2015 - 2022 Mustang Carbon Fiber Track Pack Style Spoiler with Adjusta | Anderson Composites

Take a piece of lexan and make a new 'wicker bill' which is a couple inches taller and you'll really feel it.

 

[1958cyclist]

Ooohh, awesome track. hope I can come there again next year. turn 17 is a lot of fun, though in context of this thread, I didn't feel any need for extra aero there. I wasn't going full speed due to heat management, to be fair.

The first time I felt a need to do something with back end was at Watkins glen when braking into turn 1 - it's a downhill braking area from pretty fast straight and if you brake hard enough, the rear end unsettles so much that the poo may start to come out . if you've never done this track, I absolutely recommend to go there. total blast.

Yes, I have a friend who travels up and down the east coast trailering his GT 350R and said Watkins Glen is much more open and significantly faster track. I kind of assumed that Pitt Race which is about 30 minutes north of where I live, wouldn't be the kind of track where aero aids would prove overly beneficial.

 

[WERA49]

This thread came to mind when I saw this guy today in traffic.

 

[TeeLew]

I kind of assumed that Pitt Race which is about 30 minutes north of where I live, wouldn't be the kind of track where aero aids would prove overly beneficial.

That would be a very poor assumption.

 

[jon.smith76063]

I'm pretty sure it's not available for sale and only available as an installed option but the Roush active wing provides 400lbs of downforce in the up position. I can say that it works wonders above 100 for keeping the rear end planted and not wandering around on the highway.

 

[TeeLew]

The first time I felt a need to do something with back end was at Watkins glen when braking into turn 1

Then I'll assume the second time you had that thought was later in the lap into The Laces?

 

[tosha]

Then I'll assume the second time you had that thought was later in the lap into The Laces?

I think I didn't carry enough speed through turn 6 to get same effect to be honest, but I see what you mean. And then, since breaking into 7 is uphill, it felt fine. Heel however is somewhat similar to turn 1 and it was also giving same feeling that rear end is about to lift off .

Braking into turn 8 at Mosport is another example, scary AF until you realize how much room there is.

 

[tosha]

Yes, I have a friend who travels up and down the east coast trailering his GT 350R and said Watkins Glen is much more open and significantly faster track. I kind of assumed that Pitt Race which is about 30 minutes north of where I live, wouldn't be the kind of track where aero aids would prove overly beneficial.

Both tracks are fast. You can totally get up to speeds where aero shold make quite a difference.

 

[TeeLew]

Braking into turn 8 at Mosport is another example, scary AF until you realize how much room there is.

If you aren't shitting yourself in 2, then I don't know what it takes...

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