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My friend's car wouldn't go into 3rd gear. I think it broke during a shift.

I doubt it was the actual gear but I didn't ask what specifically broke and he just wanted to sell the car so I don't think he cared enough to look into it. He threw in a used transmission and sold it to a dealer.

I think he was pretty much stock or minor bolt-ons. He also managed to break his half-shafts while shifting on the street haha.
 

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My friend's car wouldn't go into 3rd gear. I think it broke during a shift.

I doubt it was the actual gear but I didn't ask what specifically broke and he just wanted to sell the car so I don't think he cared enough to look into it. He threw in a used transmission and sold it to a dealer.

I think he was pretty much stock or minor bolt-ons. He also managed to break his half-shafts while shifting on the street haha.
There are definitely more than a few weak points on these cars. We all have to decide whether we want to cruise them or abuse them. The latter will find all vulnerable components eventually.
 

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There are definitely more than a few weak points on these cars. We all have to decide whether we want to cruise them or abuse them. The latter will find all vulnerable components eventually.
Yep it’s sad considering how strong the 6r80 is, and even though the 10r80 is pretty finicky it can hold decent power.

I wonder how much it would cost for Ford to switch out the mt-82 to the tremec for all manual mustangs.
 

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MT82 on my 2019 Bullitt functions well and feels just fine to me. I had E92 M3, AP1 S2000, and 2016 Porsche GT4 before this car. The transmission on E92 was not good. Some might like it but it was very loose, had a lot of play even in gears, the clutch was too light and the bite point was very vague. S2000 trans was good. Short throw and felt very mechanical and engaging. Felt very well made indeed. The GT4 trans was alright. Very notch when cold. Frequent grinding into 2nd gear. Not a lot of feel due to being cable driven. Every transmission has its own strengths and weaknesses. MT82 is not perfect but not hugely worse than those I mentioned I think. Use it right and you will be fine.
 

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Yep it’s sad considering how strong the 6r80 is, and even though the 10r80 is pretty finicky it can hold decent power.

I wonder how much it would cost for Ford to switch out the mt-82 to the tremec for all manual mustangs.
That’s a good question. Tremec T56 Magnum or 3160? I haven’t looked into whether the 3160 has some shortcomings too, but I believe Calimer is rebuilding and beefing those up too now. Sounds like somewhere, someone or more than one has had trouble out of theirs, otherwise, I don’t just see him diving into that tranny for nothing.

Back to your question, I know I wouldn’t have had a problem paying extra for a car with a more robust tranny in it and I doubt that I’m the only one, who feels that way.
 

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I wonder how much it would cost for Ford to switch out the mt-82 to the tremec for all manual mustangs.
based purely on FP/Jegs and such the retail cost is the same between Tremec and MT82. I'm sure Ford's cost has a more significant spread. But a $1000 upcharge to the base price would hardly raise any eyebrows considering the multi-thousand dollar hikes last 2 years.

The obscene hike in the PP1 package price could be used to 'silently' upgrade the trans.
 

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I read a lot about the MT82 taking a shit
Still waiting to see all these claims. I think it's way over exaggerated . 99.9 % of the time it's the driver. Except for the 18 only shift forks. Those were wet noodles ha-ha
 

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Still waiting to see all these claims. I think it's way over exaggerated . 99.9 % of the time it's the driver. Except for the 18 only shift forks. Those were wet noodles ha-ha
Wet noodle indeed. Watch how easily this guy breaks his 3/4 shift fork. To get right to thr meat of thr video, forward to 7:30 and watch from there.

 

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MT82 on my 2019 Bullitt functions well and feels just fine to me. I had E92 M3, AP1 S2000, and 2016 Porsche GT4 before this car. The transmission on E92 was not good. Some might like it but it was very loose, had a lot of play even in gears, the clutch was too light and the bite point was very vague. S2000 trans was good. Short throw and felt very mechanical and engaging. Felt very well made indeed. The GT4 trans was alright. Very notch when cold. Frequent grinding into 2nd gear. Not a lot of feel due to being cable driven. Every transmission has its own strengths and weaknesses. MT82 is not perfect but not hugely worse than those I mentioned I think. Use it right and you will be fine.

I too had not one but 2 E92 M3s,thats just the way BMWs Getrag trannies feel. Even the new G8X cars with a manual has that loosy goosey shifter. I got used to it.
 

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The first thing I added to my 17 with a MT 82 was a blowfish racing shifter support bracket. The bracket mounts the shifter to the trans to stop the misalignment during heavy throttle shifting and basically eliminates about 90% of the root causes of trans failures. The blowfish bracket is no longer made, but you can buy an aftermarket shifter that integrates a similar bracket into their shifter.

I've made several 7K rpm powershifts and never had a problem with mine, six years and the trans and clutch is still stock and never been out of the car.
 

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The MT-82 on my 14GT I had up 130K miles. It would lock me out of third during fast high rpm shifts. My third gear synchro went out causing a grind when going to reverse (with 30K miles). Other than that it was great just didn't like to be slammed on and it felt like shifting through marshmallows. My tremec on the other hand takes abuse like a champ and its much more confidence aspiring.

That being said, the MT82 is fine just get a decent clutch(Mantic baddass) and MGW shifter and don't abuse the crap out of it.
 

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Last month I exploded 3rd gear on my 19 during a fast shift. (not no lift) Ford sent an engineer out to my local dealer to witness the disassembly and take the damaged parts for R&D.

Unfortunately I didn't get to snap photos or talk with the engineer when he stopped by.

New updated hard parts are being covered under the factory 5yr/60,000 mile warranty.

I'll also add that I have an MGW X-spec and it completely eliminated my factory lockouts.

The sound of performance:
 
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Last month I exploded 3rd gear on my 19 during a fast shift. (not no lift) Ford sent an engineer out to my local dealer to witness the disassembly and take the damaged parts for R&D.

Unfortunately I didn't get to snap photos or talk with the engineer when he stopped by.

New updated hard parts are being covered under the factory 5yr/60,000 mile warranty.

I'll also add that I have an MGW X-spec and it completely eliminated my factory lockouts.
That damn third gear LOL
 

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I too had not one but 2 E92 M3s,thats just the way BMWs Getrag trannies feel. Even the new G8X cars with a manual has that loosy goosey shifter. I got used to it.
Yeah, that's one thing that keeps me away from BMW's... Just like you said, 2018 M3 that I test drove had the exact same loosy shifter. I don't really understand why they are designed like that. Aren't BMWs supposed to be "precise driving machines"? And it's interesting to see that many car reviewers (Youtubers) describe the BMW transmission as precise and engaging... hmmm
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