GTD allocations should be this week

[Tomster]

So, Carbon Edition, Tom? I assume that will be the lightest version?

I have no idea. Nothing is official until I speak to the GTD Team.

What if a base (that is heavier) is more readily available than the most track capable version?

Those are my concerns. All will be addressed when I get to speak to the GTD Team.

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[MAGS1]

I have no idea. Nothing is official until I speak to the GTD Team.

What if a base (that is heavier) is more readily available than the most track capable version?

Those are my concerns. All will be addressed when I get to speak to the GTD Team.

Valid concern for sure. I’ve seen them mention and showcase the Carbon Edition (that light blue one I shared a couple weeks ago is a Carbon Edition I believe), so I’m just assuming with that kind of name it will be lighter. But we all know what happens when one assumes.

Hopefully all of the specs and options available have the same lead times, but we all know it doesn’t always work that way. I would think they’ll be able to tell you all of that when you talk to them though. As much as we rag on Ford for seemingly not having their sh!t together sometimes, I gotta believe they will have their ducks in a row for this car. It sure seems like they did with the GT.

 

[Tomster]

Valid concern for sure. I’ve seen them mention and showcase the Carbon Edition (that light blue one I shared a couple weeks ago is a Carbon Edition I believe), so I’m just assuming with that kind of name it will be lighter. But we all know what happens when one assumes.

Hopefully all of the specs and options available have the same lead times, but we all know it doesn’t always work that way. I would think they’ll be able to tell you all of that when you talk to them though. As much as we rag on Ford for seemingly not having their sh!t together sometimes, I gotta believe they will have their ducks in a row for this car. It sure seems like they did with the GT.

The 500 CFTP has embarrassed a lot of exotics (to include P cars) at Daytona. I can't imagine how this car will do. For instance, the weight of the 500 was a limitation on the inside course. I hauled ass on the outside course. All the time lost on the inside will be gained with the GTD. I'm shooting for 1:55 to 1:58 laps. Probably more the latter. Exciting times!

 

[MAGS1]

I get the NDA but it's not like they aren't showcasing it all over.

I'm sure there are details they want to themselves.

There’s probably some info that the future owners will get as part of their build process that Ford hasn’t made public yet (I’d bet weight and hp are a couple examples). Once Ford makes it public, they will likely be able to talk about it. And some things they might not ever be able to talk about, all depends on how the NDA is written. NDA isn’t surprising though, I believe it was required for the GT as well.

Most of the details we care about will be made public by Ford at some point though.

The 500 CFTP has embarrassed a lot of exotics (to include P cars) at Daytona. I can't imagine how this car will do. For instance, the weight of the 500 was a limitation on the inside course. I hauled ass on the outside course. All the time lost on the inside will be gained with the GTD. I'm shooting for 1:55 to 1:58 laps. Probably more the latter. Exciting times!

Those would be some awesome lap times for sure. Not surprising about the CFTP being slower on the inside course, the smaller more nimble cars will shine there. The unfortunate disadvantage of having a 4,000 lb sledge hammer of a car. I bet those long straights are an absolute riot though.

If the GTD comes in 400-500 lbs lighter than the 500, holy smokes that thing should fly. Hopefully they’re able to shed that much weight. Even 250-300 lbs will be a meaningful difference, though.

 

[Tomster]

There’s probably some info that the future owners will get as part of their build process that Ford hasn’t made public yet (I’d bet weight and hp are a couple examples). Once Ford makes it public, they will likely be able to talk about it. And some things they might not ever be able to talk about, all depends on how the NDA is written. NDA isn’t surprising though, I believe it was required for the GT as well.

Most of the details we care about will be made public by Ford at some point though.

Those would be some awesome lap times for sure. Not surprising about the CFTP being slower on the inside course, the smaller more nimble cars will shine there. The unfortunate disadvantage of having a 4,000 lb sledge hammer of a car. I bet those long straights are an absolute riot though.

If the GTD comes in 400-500 lbs lighter than the 500, holy smokes that thing should fly. Hopefully they’re able to shed that much weight. Even 250-300 lbs will be a meaningful difference, though.

I am hoping a few hundred pounds less

 

[Evolvd]

I am hoping a few hundred pounds less

Isn’t is supposed to be street legal? That means all the bracing and extra weight….hopefully they have a stripped package like the 350R had

 

[Tomster]

Isn’t is supposed to be street legal? That means all the bracing and extra weight….hopefully they have a stripped package like the 350R had

Apparently the added stuff added weight. On paper the car should be 3700#. We will see.

 

[MCS]

Christmas came earlier than expected

This is awesome Tom. I'm glad for you! Now, let me send you my address for you to ship that red GT500 up here!

Congrats to everyone who got accepted!!!!! Can't wait to see the content!

 

[dpAtlanta]

I think I speak for all… we look forward to videos of track performance of the beasts… it will be the most track capable car Ford has ever produced.

And in the hands of an experienced driver, this will be one hell of an impressive drive.

 

[AMBJR]

I have no idea. Nothing is official until I speak to the GTD Team.

What if a base (that is heavier) is more readily available than the most track capable version?

Those are my concerns. All will be addressed when I get to speak to the GTD Team.

Same here, I agree!!!

 

[kilobravo]

I gotta tell ya folks, I almost soiled my drawers when I read about ALL THE ACCEPTANCE LETTERS! HS no, HS²! Allow me to add a HUGE congrats to all concerned and like everyone else, I can't wait to follow the stories and most of all, to see the photos and vids.

But I also gotta say that my brain is telling me something has clearly changed in the minds of Ford Marketing and as it was noted previously, I think the Plan of the Day is instead of shooting for rarity as the marketing goal, the new direction seems to be to mine as much gelt as possible and figuring the rarity factor will probably still be ninety percent as high as it would have been under the old program.

On paper the car should be 3700#.

I guess that would make it what, about 400-500lbs lighter than your '20? Whatever the number, multiple three-digit reductions is, in my limited knowledge, huge and I'll bet you have a very accurate idea of what your current car would turn if it were that much lighter.

Add a crap ton of power and all sorts of suspension and aero magic and you have a supercar for sure if not one of the hyper variety and with you behind the wheel after a "get to know her" time period, it wouldn't surprise me to read that you were blown away when you logged a lap even faster than your prediction of 1:55 to 1:58.

So what question for Mr. G. came to my mind immediately?

"What's the fastest lap time at Daytona?" <smile>

And here's what I found. Obviously you know this well Tom but I'm sure there are other dummies like me who had no idea what the answer might be..

"On January 21, 2024, Pipo Derani set the fastest ever recorded lap of the modern Daytona road course, with a 1:32.656 driving a Cadillac V-Series. R during qualifying for the 2024 24 Hours of Daytona."

The next question that came to mind was,

"Has Ford taken the GTD to Daytona in 2024?," and I learned..

"Ford led GTD Pro with Christopher Mies' lap of 1 minute 46.494 seconds."

A mere ten seconds from your estimate amigo and I think that's just cool as chidt! Meanwhile, I'll have good thoughts for quick deliveries to all and, low interest rates. <smile>

 

[Tomster]

I guess that would make it what, about 400-500lbs lighter than your '20? Whatever the number, multiple three-digit reductions is, in my limited knowledge, huge and I'll bet you have a very accurate idea of what your current car would turn if it were that much lighter.

Add a crap ton of power and all sorts of suspension and aero magic and you have a supercar for sure if not one of the hyper variety and with you behind the wheel after a "get to know her" time period, it wouldn't surprise me to read that you were blown away when you logged a lap even faster than your prediction of 1:55 to 1:58.

So what question for Mr. G. came to my mind immediately?

"What's the fastest lap time at Daytona?" <smile>

And here's what I found. Obviously you know this well Tom but I'm sure there are other dummies like me who had no idea what the answer might be..

"On January 21, 2024, Pipo Derani set the fastest ever recorded lap of the modern Daytona road course, with a 1:32.656 driving a Cadillac V-Series. R during qualifying for the 2024 24 Hours of Daytona."

The next question that came to mind was,

"Has Ford taken the GTD to Daytona in 2024?," and I learned..

"Ford led GTD Pro with Christopher Mies' lap of 1 minute 46.494 seconds."

A mere ten seconds from your estimate amigo and I think that's just cool as chidt! Meanwhile, I'll have good thoughts for quick deliveries to all and, low interest rates. <smile>

The '20 CFTP is probably 3900# after some of the things I did.

Some of the things I expect Ford to do would easily take a few hundred pounds off the car. Carbon ceramic brakes, CF out the wazoo, wheels should be a wash, suspension would probably add some weight along with active aero, if you were to offer a lithium battery, that's about a 50# delta, and redesign and manufacture of heavy steel parts with lighter substitutes should put it at my estimate or lower. We will see. That will be one of my questions that I will ask but since I signed an NDA, won't be able to share later on.

As for times at Daytona? IIRC, GT4s (s550 types) would run 1:5X's.

1:33 cannot be obtained in the GTD. 1:47 was in the hands of a professional driver. That's fast. So yes, 1:55 to 58 is entirely reasonable to expect, and depending on how the car handles on the inside, maybe a little better.

First things first..... I have a lot of questions once Ford can reveal information I need to decide.

 

[Tomster]

Also, for those not in the know, Ford is paying each dealership who delivers the GTD $15,000. Please see the link to the below article.

There is no reason for anyone to pay any kind of markup with such a payout by Ford. This policy occurred right around the time that the price was increased from $300K to $325K, so you are already paying a markup built into the price of the car.

If anyone has any kind of problem finding a dealer to expedite delivery, please reach out to me for a contact who will guarantee MSRP delivery.

Congrats to all GTD allocation recipients!

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a60512256/ford-pays-dealers-15000-per-mustang-gtd/

 

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For those that wanna give a really good dealer a shot to deliver your gtd, hit up Zach at granger ford .. he posts here

 

[Flavoade]

Hey there guys,

I havent been on here in a while but came here to join the discussion.

I applied for the GTD a few months back, and kinda forgot about it honestly; didn’t think I would be selected. Well I got the email Friday morning looking for something else in my inbox. Soooo yeah I got an allocation as well lol

I haven’t really paid much attention to the car since the application process. I remember receiving an email saying the process was moving forward a little while back. I do kinda wonder what the biggest thing was Ford wanted based on selection criteria.

Anyway… I am currently taking applications for rich step dads… but no seriously I am lol

I haven’t read the attachments yet but it said they wanted the paperwork mailed back to them in 10 days so I’m gonna work on that and start doing research.

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