Ford's Tire Selection for the GT Performance Package

[Mustang Convert]

I added the 20" wheels for appearance purposes only. I think it would make sense if Ford gave a choice of tires for those wheels and not put on summer only tires.

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[cush]

I'd love to see where you're finding winter tires and wheels that fit the PP cars for $800. Tire Rack's setups are around $3,000.

That's more like reality!

 

[cush]

I'm amazed at how many people think the buyer should just suck it up and let the manufacturer/dealer off the hook. Since they are already in bed with Pirelli, they should at least offer their All Seasons as an option. Sure, I could easily afford another set of tires and wheels because I didn't sink a good chuck of my income into this car, like many of the people who may be buying them, and I'm sure a great number of the people on this forum are (ya know, large monthly payments for 5 or 6 years).... but that's not the point. The Tires are one of I believe 3 items (Tires, Stereo, and Seats) on these cars that are not strictly Ford products, i.e. other brand names available, but unlike the other two with tires I have no option. Just my opinion!

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I'm amazed at how many people think the buyer should just suck it up and let the manufacturer/dealer off the hook. Since they are already in bed with Pirelli, they should at least offer their All Seasons as an option. Sure, I could easily afford another set of tires and wheels because I didn't sink a good chuck of my income into this car, like many of the people who may be buying them, and I'm sure a great number of the people on this forum are (ya know, large monthly payments for 5 or 6 years).... but that's not the point. The Tires are one of I believe 3 items (Tires, Stereo, and Seats) on these cars that are not strictly Ford products, i.e. other brand names available, but unlike the other two with tires I have no option. Just my opinion!

They do offer All-Seasons as an option. Just not with the Performance Pack. Because the Performance Pack cars are all about getting good performance numbers, and you're not going to be getting those good numbers on all-seasons. If all-seasons are important to you (as they are for me), stay away from the Performance Pack.

 

[cush]

They do offer All-Seasons as an option. Just not with the Performance Pack. Because the Performance Pack cars are all about getting good performance numbers, and you're not going to be getting those good numbers on all-seasons. If all-seasons are important to you (as they are for me), stay away from the Performance Pack.

Thanks for the info! I still can't believe how many people take Ford's side, or have opinions favoring them. Everyone needs to keep in mind; You are the customer, and every business will fold to customer demands/wants if they are stated enough, but this group doesn't seem to get that... I'm not picking at anyone personally, but if people defend a possible/probable shortcoming on the part of Ford, they'll (Ford) favor that approach, i.e. do nothing. :shocked:

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Thanks for the info! I still can't believe how many people take Ford's side, or have opinions favoring them. Everyone needs to keep in mind; You are the customer, and every business will fold to customer demands/wants if they are stated enough, but this group doesn't seem to get that... I'm not picking at anyone personally, but if people defend a possible/probable shortcoming on the part of Ford, they'll (Ford) favor that approach, i.e. do nothing. :shocked:

huh? Ford offers the product I want on the PP and that is what I am getting. So I have no reason to complain. Nor do the 80-100k people that buy a Mustang. That # will be much higher going forward since the car is a global offering.

 

[cush]

Well personally, I don't want Ford to increase production cost by adding more inferior options. So yes, I would rather them not 'fix' it. AS tires are sub par parts.

I'm not sure what your background is but that will not increase their costs... But I do thank you for offering your opinion.

 

[cush]

Even all seasons you are risking your entire vehicle not just 1300, trust me when I say that there is no compromise that makes a set of true winters with proper siping not worth every penny. I have run AS on RWD in winter. Never again. Buy a set of cheap, not as wide racing wheels and slap Nokian Hakka S on there and be more comfortable with a 1200 purchase than ever before. Just my 2p from 15 years of winter driving. Complaining about PP offerings won't change them at this point unfortunately and from my perspective AS tires would have been worthless inclusions, AS are merely pretty bad at everything but driving at 55 on smooth flat straight roads in the summer.

Thanks for the feedback! I will never drive this in the snow, that's what my SUV is for (BTW 40 years of winter driving, giving up my age). I will however have occasion to drive it in cold weather, and that's why I wanted all seasons that can operate without damage at lower temps.

 

[billy the k]

...I agree, though...The Pirellis are not the right choice. Ford should have went with Pilot Super Sports

Many share that opinion, but I was impressed with the following comparo—which redeemed the Pirellis vs the Pilot Super Sports: [ergo: I'm A-OK now with Ford's choice of the P Zero's for my soon-to-be-built GT with PP—check especially the "handling predictability" and "overall track rating"]:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=98

 

[908ssp]

I don't know if it is still true but at one time tires were the largest expense from an outside source.

It would be nice if a manufacturer could let you choose the tire brand and model but this has never been an option that I know of. Maybe on a Porsche where a leather covered steering wheel is a $1000 option. They get discounts on their tire purchases because of the volume they buy. Splitting that volume over may manufacturers would just drive the price of the car up.

 

[cush]

I don't know if it is still true but at one time tires were the largest expense from an outside source.

It would be nice if a manufacturer could let you choose the tire brand and model but this has never been an option that I know of. Maybe on a Porsche where a leather covered steering wheel is a $1000 option. They get discounts on their tire purchases because of the volume they buy. Splitting that volume over may manufacturers would just drive the price of the car up.

They must be getting a hell of a discount from Pirelli, aren't they the tires on every Mustang?

 

[Todd15Fastback]

They must be getting a hell of a discount from Pirelli, aren't they the tires on every Mustang?

The GT500's had goodyears.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

They must be getting a hell of a discount from Pirelli, aren't they the tires on every Mustang?

Not on base V6 and 2.3 litre.

 

[cush]

Many share that opinion, but I was impressed with the following comparo—which redeemed the Pirellis vs the Pilot Super Sports: [ergo: I'm A-OK now with Ford's choice of the P Zero's for my soon-to-be-built GT with PP—check especially the "handling predictability" and "overall track rating"]:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=98

So, one last entry, on the All Season tire issue... if your interested please see the review by Consumer Reports at the link below. In particular see the comments about the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, and how they actually outperform a number of Summer only tires. :cheers:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...rmance-winter-consumer-reports-news/index.htm

 

[TheRican]

Shh, don't question ford...

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