2019 GT PP1 Tire selection?

[Firsttexan]

As others already said a 10" wheel would be better for 285s. What are you trying to accomplish with the new tires? Just the wider look? Is traction important to you? Personally I wouldn't change tire size at all unless I can do so while keeping the sidewall the same or taller than stock.

Keeping an eye outer diameters should accomplish that. The previous owner put 255/40-19 PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 on the front.They are new. The back has PS4S on it. They will need replacing soon. I am thinking of selling the fronts and starting fresh. I like the PS4S.


Just trying to find the best setup before I buy. Going with stock size seems to be the way. New wheels are not on the agenda. Beyond that I am just looking for a wider stance. It seems that to optimize a larger tire for the GT will require a different set of wheels.

I will sell the all seasons on the front and put a set of PS4S in stock size.

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[Firsttexan]

I would recommend against that regardless of the size wheel you go with. Those are Merc OEM tires and the tread width is smaller than the 275 PS4S that come with the PP1 cars. Either go 285 or pick a different tire.

Please elaborate? Aren't OEM what comes on the PP1 car? I figured if I wanted what originally came on the car, OEM would be the choice? The factory uses non OEM tires? Which model are you recommending?

 

[Bikeman315]

Please elaborate? Aren't OEM what comes on the PP1 car? I figured if I wanted what originally came on the car, OEM would be the choice? The factory uses non OEM tires? Which model are you recommending?

The size you mentioned in a 4S is a size made for Mercedes. The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19.

Regardless if you are keeping your stock wheels for now just get the OEM size. You will be very happy with the performance of the 4S on your car.

BTW, not sure how you got to mixing all seasons and summers tires but please never do that again. It is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Aaron1085]

Thread highJack…. Sort of.


Is it a big deal going from 275/35/20 on the front to 295/30/20? 20x10” wheel.

Same with the back; going from 315/35/20 to 315/30/20? 20x10.5” wheel.

 

[Firsttexan]

The size you mentioned in a 4S is a size made for Mercedes. The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19.

Regardless if you are keeping your stock wheels for now just get the OEM size. You will be very happy with the performance of the 4S on your car.

BTW, not sure how you got to mixing all seasons and summers tires but please never do that again. It is a recipe for disaster.

Previous owner or dealer. Correcting that this week.

I am getting some conflicts here. The tire size for my 2019 GT PP1 is the following:

The Mustang GT Performance Pack 1 nets buyers 255/40 tires up front and 275/40 in the rear, while the Performance Pack 2 (PP2 GT) moves up to 305/30 sized rubber at all four corners. sized rubber at all four corners. "

 

[rxryanm]

Please elaborate? Aren't OEM what comes on the PP1 car? I figured if I wanted what originally came on the car, OEM would be the choice? The factory uses non OEM tires? Which model are you recommending?

OEM are what comes on the car, but unless your Mustang was manufactured by Mercedes, Merc OEM means they didn't come on your car. They were made by Michelin for Mercedes.
I'm recommending you don't go with 295/35. That's it. I love my PS4Ss personally and would stay stock PP1 size if I kept them on year-round.

Previous owner or dealer. Correcting that this week.

I am getting some conflicts here. The tire size for my 2019 GT PP1 is the following:

The Mustang GT Performance Pack 1 nets buyers 255/40 tires up front and 275/40 in the rear, while the Performance Pack 2 (PP2 GT) moves up to 305/30 sized rubber at all four corners. sized rubber at all four corners. "

What kinda conflicts are you getting? Stock PP1 size is 255/40 & 275/40. You don't have a PP2, so ignore that. You mentioned wanting to go 295/35 and I recommended to not do that.

Thread highJack…. Sort of.


Is it a big deal going from 275/35/20 on the front to 295/30/20? 20x10” wheel.

Same with the back; going from 315/35/20 to 315/30/20? 20x10.5” wheel.

Both are technically too big for the wheel. And it's typically not recommended to thread jack as it's considered rude. Make a post of your own and try to get more input.

 

[Firsttexan]

I got the whole thing. I don't need a tutorial on OEM from you sonny. And my response says that. I know very well what my car came with and it's not 295-30zr19s. This the OEM front and rear tire for my car.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s/p/41815

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s

I don't see Mercedes in there anywhere? What are you smoking?

What I didn't get was your quote "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" That's why I sent another quote showing the proper standard tire size. Where does your quote: "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" come from? It's not.

You need to re-read your own stuff. I am not sure you are even reading mine. You come off a bit hostile and not real helpful.

 

[Firsttexan]

Thread highJack…. Sort of.


Is it a big deal going from 275/35/20 on the front to 295/30/20? 20x10” wheel.

Same with the back; going from 315/35/20 to 315/30/20? 20x10.5” wheel.

I can live with it. It's close enough to be here on my post.

 

[Bikeman315]

I got the whole thing. I don't need a tutorial on OEM from you sonny. And my response says that. I know very well what my car came with and it's not 295-30zr19s. This the OEM front and rear tire for my car.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s/p/41815
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s

I don't see Mercedes in there anywhere? What are you smoking?

What I didn't get was your quote "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" That's why I sent another quote showing the proper standard tire size. Where does your quote: "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" come from? It's not.

You need to re-read your own stuff. I am not sure you are even reading mine. You come off a bit hostile and not real helpful.

Not sure who you are responding too but for a newbie you might want to consider losing your attitude, it doesn't work real well on here. You're asking for advice and you are getting it from a number of members.

Bottom line, stick with stock tire sizes if you are keeping your stock wheels.

 

[rxryanm]

I got the whole thing. I don't need a tutorial on OEM from you sonny. And my response says that. I know very well what my car came with and it's not 295-30zr19s. This the OEM front and rear tire for my car.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s/p/41815

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-pilot-sport-4s

I don't see Mercedes in there anywhere? What are you smoking?

What I didn't get was your quote "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" That's why I sent another quote showing the proper standard tire size. Where does your quote: "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" come from? It's not.

You need to re-read your own stuff. I am not sure you are even reading mine. You come off a bit hostile and not real helpful.

Funny you mention condescension, yet call me sonny. I don't mind being younger than you, means I know how forums and the internet works.
(Emphasis in the upcoming pictures all mine cuz it's obviously needed)
Original post:

My response keying in on one very specific part of your original post:

Your response:

Ira's statement after I said 295/35 aren't as wide as 275/40 that you seem to think I said:

This is where Mercedes comes from:

Let's review. You wanted initially 295/35r19. I recommend against them because they are made for Mercedes (Mercedes OEM) and have a smaller tread width than stock PP1 sizes. Then you get hung up on me calling them Merc OEM tires. In no way, shape, or fashion was I "running you around". I was telling you my experience, because I've already bought and returned a set of 295/35r19 because they didn't fit how I anticipated. It's not my fault your reading comprehension can't keep up.

Nothing but helpful, not my fault you think I was coming across as hostile. I was answering questions.

 

[Firsttexan]

Not sure who you are responding too but for a newbie you might want to consider losing your attitude, it doesn't work real well on here. You're asking for advice and you are getting it from a number of members.

Why do you keep quoting

Bottom line, stick with stock tire sizes if you are keeping your stock wheels.

Not sure who you are responding too but for a newbie you might want to consider losing your attitude, it doesn't work real well on here. You're asking for advice and you are getting it from a number of members.

Bottom line, stick with stock tire sizes if you are keeping your stock wheels.

I agree. That was my final conclusion.

I was respoding to
rxryanm condecending attitude.

You are correct maybe I am misunderstanding something and was to quick to judge.

Explain me this, why do you both quote? "The standard 4S is 295/30ZR19" That's where you lost me. It's not the standard tire for my car.

 

[Firsttexan]

Funny you mention condescension, yet call me sonny. I don't mind being younger than you, means I know how forums and the internet works.
(Emphasis in the upcoming pictures all mine cuz it's obviously needed)
Original post:

My response keying in on one very specific part of your original post:

Your response:

Ira's statement after I said 295/35 aren't as wide as 275/40 that you seem to think I said:

This is where Mercedes comes from:

Let's review. You wanted initially 295/35r19. I recommend against them because they are made for Mercedes (Mercedes OEM) and have a smaller tread width than stock PP1 sizes. Then you get hung up on me calling them Merc OEM tires. In no way, shape, or fashion was I "running you around". I was telling you my experience, because I've already bought and returned a set of 295/35r19 because they didn't fit how I anticipated. It's not my fault your reading comprehension can't keep up.

Nothing but helpful, not my fault you think I was coming across as hostile. I was answering questions.

The whole OEM thing got it off track. I was talking 295/35x19 not not 295/30x19 Of course the whole idea of a larger tire was off. As I learned later in the thread, I am best keeping my tire size. The whole insisting the standard was size a 295/30/19 threw me off and I felt your answer was condecending and I responded in like . My appologies.

 

[Bikeman315]

Now help me with this. You say the tire I am showing is not for my car? Please help me understand what's missing in the search?

I can certainly understand the confusion about this. Michelin manufactures different versions of its tires for different car companies. Turns out that the MPS4S in the size you originally asked about is a Mercedes spec tire. Can you see my graph in post #18? Notice the word Mercedes on there. That tells you the tire was made for Mercedes. That doesn't mean you cannot buy/use it but the 295 spec for our cars would be the 30 series, not 35 and gives you more tire width. Hope that helps.

Check Tire Rack for more information. They are a better source than Discount Tire.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/brand.jsp?brand=michelin

Also notice how many different versions of the the MPS4 there are:

Max Performance Summer
Pilot Sport 3
Pilot Sport 3 ZP
Pilot Sport 4
Pilot Sport 4 ZP
Pilot Sport 4S
Pilot Sport 4S ZP
Pilot Sport PS2
Pilot Sport PS2 ZP
Pilot Super Sport
Pilot Super Sport ZP

 

[Firsttexan]

Now help me with this. You say the tire I am showing is not for my car? This has me totally confused. I guess you were saying the 295 was actually smaller than the 275 p4s and not for my car?

 

[Bikeman315]

Now help me with this. You say the tire I am showing is not for my car? This has me totally confused. I guess you were saying the 295 was actually smaller than the 275 p4s and not for my car?

Go here for a comparison of all 4S tire sizes.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+4S

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