Edelbrock E-Force Troubleshooting Manual

[mikengail]

HELP

OK, hoping someone on this thread may have some insight into my problem. Loss of power and rough idle with a muffled dead but louder exhaust note that sounds as though a cylinder or two is not firing. She also runs significantly hotter than normal. I'm usually around 181F, but now she's hovering in the high 190's. No diagnostic codes thrown. No check engine lights.

I have an extended warranty and my Ford dealer has a Tech that is their guy for supercharged Shelby's, Roush's, etc. He's the only guy that touches my car there. He has a 2019 of his own with a big Kenne-Bell blower.

The tech had it for a few days to diagnose and said that he thinks there is something going on with the Edelbrock blower. Fuel injectors, fuel pump and spark are all good. Compression is good. A video scope of the cylinders reveals that they're all good and they all have good pressure. When he removes the supercharger belt and starts it up, it idles perfectly and sounds totally normal. When he re-installs the belt, the symptoms return.

Does anyone on here have any idea as to what may be going on with the supercharger? The tech said that the Bypass Valve actuator appeared to be working normally. Could the Bypass Valve itself be a problem? The car has been running fine for over 3 years with this blower, until now. Thanks for reading...

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[Torinate]

Hope he didn’t run it too long without the belt. It also runs the alternator and water pump. Stage 2 with separate blower belt would be o

I assume the misfire monitor didn’t show any misfires?

Did the by pass hold vacuum? It’s open at idle to vent any pressure. Do you have a boost gauge?


I feel your pain though. Same thing with mine. Ran perfect for 3 years and then started with misfires that still haven’t been figured out.

Sounds like he’s narrowed it down though to the blower. Very odd though. These things are typically bullet proof.

 

[mikengail]

Hope he didn’t run it too long without the belt. It also runs the alternator and water pump. Stage 2 with separate blower belt would be o

I assume the misfire monitor didn’t show any misfires?

Did the by pass hold vacuum? It’s open at idle to vent any pressure. Do you have a boost gauge?


I feel your pain though. Same thing with mine. Ran perfect for 3 years and then started with misfires that still haven’t been figured out.

Sounds like he’s narrowed it down though to the blower. Very odd though. These things are typically bullet proof.

This Eddy has had more than it's share of problems throughout the past 3 years. Bucking, jerking and surging at moderate part throttle took 2 tuners and forever to tame enough to make the car tolerable as a daily. Never went away completely. Lund figured it out more than anybody else. Had that problem from day one. Been tested multiple times for vacuum leaks. None have ever been found. If not for the Lund tune, I would have replaced the Eddy with something else a long time ago. Hellion's shop and Headquarters is right here in Albuquerque. If Chris Groves at The Dyno Edge can't figure it out, I'm going to sh*tcan the Eddy and have him install a Hellion TT kit. Chris does a lot of the Dyno testing for Hellion. They're not that far away from each other here in town. Thanks for the response. Everything helps...

 

[allicedout]

Did a quick search on catch cans.... I have a JLT catch can for N/A can I modify that to use with the supercharger or do I need something supercharger specific?

 

[illtal]

Did a quick search on catch cans.... I have a JLT catch can for N/A can I modify that to use with the supercharger or do I need something supercharger specific?

you only need to splice into existing PVC setup. Nothing specific needed. Just the hoses. The SC will act like factory as far as crankcase ventilation.

 

[allicedout]

you only need to splice into existing PVC setup. Nothing specific needed. Just the hoses. The SC will act like factory as far as crankcase ventilation.

Thanks that worked out perfectly...

 

[allicedout]

Not the news I wanted to post but finally did my start up with the Edelbrock tune, ran for almost a minute and shut off, it gave me a P0073 code, seamed simple enough but didn't thank that would cause the car to not run. Cranked the car car a few more times and it would start then die out. I thought maybe it was the VMP BAP so I unplugged it and went direct to the factory pump and cranked again.... Started up again for about 15 seconds then died out again. This time it threw a few more codes.

P0073
P061B
P2196
P2198

Did a few searches and it may be tune related. The car only has 4000km so I don't suspect any of the sensors to be bad. I've emailed Edelbrock and my tuner as well. If its just tune related I'll have the car trailered to my guy and let him do his thing. I was just hoping to have the car running for a bit to make sure there are no leaks or issues. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Torinate]

Who is the tuner other than Edelbrock?

Did this happen all of a sudden? Did it happen after a change to anything? Did it run fine for 4000km then start this or from day1?

I’m chasing a couple issues as well and have had no success in fixing it. Off idle hesitation and idle misfires that do not trigger a cel and cannot really be seen in a log. Infuriating to say the least.

 

[allicedout]

This happened on start up. I loaded the Edelbrcok tune and started the car for the first time.. It ran for about a minute then cut out.. Cranked it a few times it would start for a few seconds then cut out again. I spoke to a tuner and he said its the larger injectors, the Edelbrock uses stock injectors and I went with Ford Racing 56lb injectors. looks like I'll have to chance it on tune day and hope for the best.

 

[Torinate]

Ah. Yea, the Edelbrock tune won’t run on anything except the injectors in the kit. Who is doing your tuning? Can they send a base tune for your injectors?

 

[allicedout]

Ah. Yea, the Edelbrock tune won’t run on anything except the injectors in the kit. Who is doing your tuning? Can they send a base tune for your injectors?

Thanks for the info, someone told it would run ok with the injectors because there not that big, clearly not the case. Everyone's using HP Tuners now so unfortunately email tunes are not available.

 

[Torinate]

So who is tuning the car?

 

[allicedout]

Hopefully Arun at CC Performance. I was hoping to have the car running before taking it to him, not sure if I want to put the stock injectors in and run the car for a bit then switch them back out and take it in to tune. I'm going to see him next week in person and see what he has to say. Not sure I want to go over all this over the phone or email.

 

[allicedout]

Guys just wanted to post this up..... This is the second time I have contacted Edelbrock and the first time was regarding a missing hose in my kit, but both times Edelbrock called me and wanted to confirm that I had this jet installed in my bypass actuator. Not sure if this was a change they made recently and if its to fix some symptoms from earlier models. I thought it could helpful to anyone that may have idle issues or surging....

 

[Torinate]

Yea. Those are the basic nitrous pills that slow the closing of the by-pass valve. I’ve tried with the stock 15, added a 32 and tried without. The smoothest by far is the stock 015. Without the pill the boost was totally on and off. I use the 32 daily now. Is that a 35? If so, try a smaller one too. You may find the 35 is very close to the on / off of now pill.

Arun is pretty busy. Have you booked in yet? He’s busy with all the Corvette and Chevy guys lol.

Changing out the injectors was the hardest thing on the whole installation for me! I’d be tempted to stick the stock injectors in and run the EB tune to get it running and get a feel for it. You haven’t really had the car running for any period, correct? Then decide about the tune.

Where are you located again?

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