Edelbrock E-Force Troubleshooting Manual

[allicedout]

What's everyone using for oil? The 2021 is using 5w30 from factory, anyone switch to 5w50 after boost? I'm going to change the oil and thought I'd get everyone's good opinion....

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[mikengail]

What's everyone using for oil? The 2021 is using 5w30 from factory, anyone switch to 5w50 after boost? I'm going to change the oil and thought I'd get everyone's good opinion....

I use 5w50 full synthetic from Ford. My dealer does it...

 

[allicedout]

Quick update, got my intial start up tune from Lund, car started up without any issues, idled fine and went through the process of data logging to get Lund the data they needed. Everything looked good so I was given the ok to do a few WOT runs from 2500-5000RPM. Everything seemed to run fine and sent the log back to them. Got my R1 tune and told to do the same WOT pulls unfortunately started raining here so won't happen until tomorrow. So far they like what they see and huge relief for me that the install was good on my part and the car runs smooth. Sound quality from the dashcam isn't the greatest. Thanks for all the help i'm sure its not over yet....

 

[DrewFiveOhh]

Okay so I’ve been keeping up with this thread since June when I purchased my Gen 3 with the 2650 kit installed. I bought it this way with 13k miles on it. I’ve had a whole heap of trouble with the car since purchasing it. Most of the issues I’ve had have been discussed on this thread and you guys have been very helpful, but I’m now having an issue that I haven’t seen discussed on here.

A couple weeks ago, I started to get this really ugly sound from the engine bay on every cold start that would eventually go away once the car got to operating temps. Now, it’s not so bad but I have now noticed a squeak/squealing coming from the engine bay which sounds like a belt noise.

The shop I’ve been using is Finish Line Performance and they’ve been extremely helpful, but they are 2 and a half hours away from me so I would like to try to get this figured out on my own. I’m attaching videos of the noise, and if anyone has any advice/input, it would be greatly appreciated. I’m also new to this site, but you can check my car out on Instagram @DrewFiveOhh if interested.

 

[DrewFiveOhh]

Links to the videos

 

[illtal]

Okay so I’ve been keeping up with this thread since June when I purchased my Gen 3 with the 2650 kit installed. I bought it this way with 13k miles on it. I’ve had a whole heap of trouble with the car since purchasing it. Most of the issues I’ve had have been discussed on this thread and you guys have been very helpful, but I’m now having an issue that I haven’t seen discussed on here.

A couple weeks ago, I started to get this really ugly sound from the engine bay on every cold start that would eventually go away once the car got to operating temps. Now, it’s not so bad but I have now noticed a squeak/squealing coming from the engine bay which sounds like a belt noise.

The shop I’ve been using is Finish Line Performance and they’ve been extremely helpful, but they are 2 and a half hours away from me so I would like to try to get this figured out on my own. I’m attaching videos of the noise, and if anyone has any advice/input, it would be greatly appreciated. I’m also new to this site, but you can check my car out on Instagram @DrewFiveOhh if interested.

Wow that sounds like a belt flapping around in there. I'm thinking maybe it's a a bad idler bearing. The first video I can tell it's not coming from the actual supercharger which is a good thing.

There was a member here that said his stock belt was tight and it caused some problems with bearings.

 

[mikengail]

Mine sounded like this, but at a higher pitch, and it was a defective idler. I can't remember which one. I replaced it and the sound went away. I used an old broomstick with the rounded end on my ear and the other on the bolt that holds the idler in place. I checked all the other idlers and it was easy to pinpoint the bad one. Good luck...

 

[DrewFiveOhh]

Finish Line shimmed my pulley when they were looking over the car and fixing a lot of the issues I was having. If it’s a bad idler bearing, I wonder if that’s what caused it? The sound isn’t as pronounced as the video of the car, but there’s a slight squeal now when the car gets up and going. The video sucks, but you can hear it faintly.



I really love this car and I’m hoping to get all these issues figured out. This kit seems great. Just wish I had done the install instead of purchasing it already done…

 

[illtal]

Finish Line shimmed my pulley when they were looking over the car and fixing a lot of the issues I was having. If it’s a bad idler bearing, I wonder if that’s what caused it? The sound isn’t as pronounced as the video of the car, but there’s a slight squeal now when the car gets up and going. The video sucks, but you can hear it faintly.



I really love this car and I’m hoping to get all these issues figured out. This kit seems great. Just wish I had done the install instead of purchasing it already done…

I just saw something on YouTube. If you can't confirm it is an idler, have someone take a look at the timing system and make sure it isn't the timing chain slapping around in there due to chain stretch.

If this is the case then the tensioners will be maxed out. Anyways, good luck and let us know what you found out.

 

[DrewFiveOhh]

Thank’s for the info @illtal. I replaced the 74mm idler pulley that I suspected it to be, and that didn’t fix the noise. I spoke with Tony at Edelbrock and I realized the car has an aftermarket tensioner from American Racing Solutions, which I noticed odd movement from while the car was running. Supposed to have the correct Gates tensioner/pulley coming in today to try, and hopefully that fixes my issue. While the timing chain is a good suggestion, I started the car without the belt (suggested by Tony to rule out internal engine damage) and the noise was non-existent, so I’m 90% confident it is pulley/belt related somewhere along the accessory drive. If replacing my current tensioner with the supplied tensioner that comes with the kit doesn’t solve my issue, then it’s likely the supercharger itself (according to Tony). This is honestly a great learning experience for me as I’ve never owned a high horsepower car/am not super mechanically inclined, and I’m doing the work myself. Learning a lot about my car in particular!

Once I figure out the issue, I will be sure to post back in this thread with an update for anyone who has similar issues in the future! Such a great thread for anyone with this kit.

 

[DrewFiveOhh]

Okay, a little update. After a couple of day’s, part’s, blood, & sweat, I got everything figured out (for now).

Long story short, it was a bad tensioner/tensioner pulley. I removed the 63mm pulley, one of the 74mm idler pulley’s, and my tensioner/tensioner pulley (which was an aftermarket billet ARS tensioner). I checked both the 63mm and the 74mm idler pulley to see if the bearings were bad, and I even replaced the 74mm idler pulley with a brand new one, which took me to 4 different auto parts store’s until I found one 45 minute’s from me that had one. The noise was still present, UNTIL I swapped the aftermarket tensioner with the gates tensioner and 8-rib pulley that originally comes with the kit. Once I installed that and tightened every single pulley on the front accessory drive, the sound went away and hasn’t come back (knock on wood).

I even took the car to my local car event, Somernites, today and the car did phenomenal. Just have a few tuning related things I am getting sorted and then the car should be 100%!

 

[ARTAX]

May be nothing but may be something. Found random nut just gently lying beneath Bypass Valve Linkage. Doesn't appear to have come off anything in the immediate vicinity as it is quite small. Any idea? maybe random nut I dropped somehow but wanted to make sure. Also the "DO NOT REMOVE" sticker that was around the edelbrock 2650 blower pulley has been... removed. I know it probably keeps that dust cap in place or helps keep dust out I suppose, where Can I get a replacement or something that won't get sucked up into the bearing itself?

 

[mikengail]

Has anyone tried the Bullitt or Mach-1 87mm digital throttle body with this supercharger?

 

[mikengail]

Has anyone tried the Bullitt or Mach-1 87mm digital throttle body with this supercharger?

Nevermind. I think that I found the answer to my question. Juggernaut Performance makes a modified PMAS solution with a 120mm MAF housing to connect directly to the Edelbrock 103mm throttle body. I can make the throttle body opening connect to the 87mm unit without any leaks.

Jn2ning Edelbrock PMAS 120mm Intake Upgrade Kit | Juggernaut Performance Inc. (juggernautpower.com)

 

[allicedout]

Nevermind. I think that I found the answer to my question. Juggernaut Performance makes a modified PMAS solution with a 120mm MAF housing to connect directly to the Edelbrock 103mm throttle body. I can make the throttle body opening connect to the 87mm unit without any leaks.

Jn2ning Edelbrock PMAS 120mm Intake Upgrade Kit | Juggernaut Performance Inc. (juggernautpower.com)

So let me see if I'm reading this correctly, you are using the PMAS intake made for 103MM throttle body to work on the stock 87MM throttle body? If so I am interested knowing more about it. Did you have to retune?

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