Ecoboost Big Turbo Thread

[Tamadrummer88]

According to their press release, they are working with Full Race and will be offering that kit through FRPP.

Mike

That's very good to know. Thanks!


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[Tamadrummer88]

Does anyone know if the FRPP kit will come with an upgraded intercooler as well?

 

[Full-Race Geoff]

intercooler upgrade is highly recommended for stock turbos and mandatory for upgraded turbos

 

[JerseyDevil]

On the Direct Injection BMW Turbo cars you can gain 100+ more Horsepower overhead by either going to a higher pressure capable in tank walbro OR adding an inline walbro pump wired to the In tank pump. the means of fuel pressure regulation on BMW is the voltage to the pump. Mechanical increases are relatively simple as well, there's lots of great tuners here from all different marques, this platform is going to get REAL FAST REAL QUICK.

Here's a pic of the BIG Turbo we are using on our Twincharger system, at our target power/boost level our choice of turbo is at max efficiency between 400-600hp...

 

[Frogger]

I'm already doing a Cobb tune. Ordered ATP non carted modular down pipe, which important because it allows for stock and upgraded turbo and stock and upgraded catbacks. Run ya about 400 bucks. Also going with ATP intercooler. So I am going with ATP turbo so at least I have a company building my exact set up. Dying for their damn intercooler to hit the market. I'm buying the DP and I'd prefer to knock them out at once.

 

[Full-Race Geoff]

ATP non carted modular down pipe, which important because it allows for stock and upgraded turbo

i wouldnt bet on that downpipe being compatible with most upgraded turbos

 

[JerseyDevil]

I'm already doing a Cobb tune. Ordered ATP non carted modular down pipe, which important because it allows for stock and upgraded turbo and stock and upgraded catbacks. Run ya about 400 bucks. Also going with ATP intercooler. So I am going with ATP turbo so at least I have a company building my exact set up. Dying for their damn intercooler to hit the market. I'm buying the DP and I'd prefer to knock them out at once.

We will posting solidworks pics of our Ecoboost Intercooler this week and will be making several initial intercoolers for a few early adopters, which will get them at a discounted price in return for independent review and feedback. Our intercoolers are custom designed for each application and feature custom one piece cores, custom cast end tanks and rounded airflow surfaces. We will provide a plethora of data in regards to ait temp suppression as well as pressure drops, so potential end users can make an educated and informed decision at purchase!

 

[5TAR5CR3AM]

Been away from my computer for a few days so haven't been able to respond. Thanks to everyone who has responded. Full-Race Geoff, not everyone may know the difference between standard and reverse rotation turbos and the complications that come with them. Do you think you can elaborate a little more so everyone can fully understand? Could you not just swap a standard rotation in place for the reverse? Also your custom manifold really isn't a manifold but merely an adapter. Who's to say that nobody else will design one and can be purchased separately from a full kit? Fueling will be figured out in time by those who push the platform. That is the only way to find limits. Maybe the 2 turbos I suggested are overkill, but I'm looking for power up top. I want to keep things limited down low for reliability, so I'm not looking for something that has full boost below 3000rpm. I'm actually leaning more towards the 3576 now to have a little quicker spool but similar breathing up top. If there is a BW that spools even quicker but has the same or more room up top, then I'll be interested.

 

[5TAR5CR3AM]

i wouldnt bet on that downpipe being compatible with most upgraded turbos

It will be compatible with their drop in turbos. I can guarantee that.

 

[Barret72]

On an intercooler and charge piping install, do you have to have a tune for the car to function.

I understand a tune would be able to fully utilize the new parts but if I wish to backyard install a new intercooler and the charge piping and then take the vehicle to get it tuned is that possible?

 

[Full-Race Geoff]

Full-Race Geoff, not everyone may know the difference between standard and reverse rotation turbos and the complications that come with them. Do you think you can elaborate a little more so everyone can fully understand? Could you not just swap a standard rotation in place for the reverse?

no problem. Clockwise rotation is the accepted standard for 99.9% of aftermarket frame turbochargers - whether its BorgWarner, garrett, turbonetics, comp, precision or anyone else. The difference is that a reverse rotation turbo is literally mirrored from standard rotation. this requires completely different compressor and turbine components. Most modern turbos, with modern bearings/alloys/wheel designs are going to be cw rotation for the forseeable future.

your custom manifold really isn't a manifold but merely an adapter. Who's to say that nobody else will design one and can be purchased separately from a full kit? Fueling will be figured out in time by those who push the platform. That is the only way to find limits.

Im certain other organizations will design their own manifolds, and Im excited to see what they bring. Competition amongst tuners/engineers is what it takes to bring a new platform to the next level. Weve been doing this for a long time and fully aware we arent the only guys who will push the limits. However we have a unique relationship with BWTS and Ford. Our parts undergo significant CFD analysis and made from top shelf materials - in this case our manifold is investment cast in 347 stainless steel from a top tier foundry who also makes OEM turbine housings.. it is not a simple part for a typical performance shop to produce like an intake

I'm actually leaning more towards the 3576 now to have a little quicker spool but similar breathing up top. If there is a BW that spools even quicker but has the same or more room up top, then I'll be interested.

EFR7670 0.92 a/r is my recomendation -- the same 76mm compressor size as the 3576 and comparable turbine wheel size, but next level performance: http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/borgwarner-efr/borgwarner-efr-7670-turbo.html

if I wish to backyard install a new intercooler and the charge piping and then take the vehicle to get it tuned is that possible?

no problem

 

[Full-Race Geoff]

a little more background for you, going back to 2010:

http://www.docdroid.net/c6j6/fr-singlescroll-vs-twinscroll.pdf.html

 

[myfriend]

Any updates on this in regards to turbo and fuel upgrade?

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