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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the 4.6. 300 HP out of the 4.6 is disgraceful in my opinion. What a boat anchor! That number is ok from a V6, but it is very low for a V8, unless the displacement is well under 4 liters.

They should have been making at least 350 - 370 with 4.6 liters when it first came out in the Mustang in 96. And after they had many years to tweak the design they should have been closer to 400 or above 400 HP. To me the 4.6 was a wasted design. They could have just slapped a better set of heads on the pushrod 302 and made more than 300 HP. With the 302 the car could have been significantly smaller and lighter as well.
I'm guessing that you just don't remember what the state of the art was back in the 90's-2000's. My 04 GTO with a 5.7 made 350hp- same as the Corvette and same as the Hemi in my Ram. The next year with the 6.0 made 400. 300 out of a 4.6 NA car in the 90's was quite good. Now, whether they should have put a larger engine in the Mustang is a different question. But, the manufactures are always juggling emissions and CAFE as well as HP. The old 302 was a dinosaur and couldn't meet either modern emissions or fuel economy standards.
 

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Nothing wrong with a 310hp V6 Mustang. My wife has one, and it's a nice car. I actually drove it to work today.

Dat V8 sound, doe...
 

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rode in my friends mustang, never been in a v8 car before, well soon enough there I was buying a new gt
 
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I'm talking about the later 4.6 in the S197 (300hp/300Ib-ft). I owned the one in my sig for 7 years. In recent years the Ford engineers have been really good at squeezing every bit of performance and efficiency out of their engines.
Progress. After all, for the 5th gen, the 3-valve 4.6 was making just about the same power that the earlier 4-valve Cobra Mustang engine made.

Now, the V6 comes close to that - about the same horsepower, but a bit shyer on torque. Gotta love things as they improve.
 
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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler", so extolled Albert Einstein. The Cyclone V-6 Mustang engine is the simplest naturally-aspirated motor to be placed in the new generation Mustang's beautiful body. I'll bet that little motor, that never was destined to be placed in the S550, will end up being the "longevity champ". There will be less hassled miles put on Cyclones than any other iteration. IMHO.
 

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The V6 is a beast. I remember driving 2005+ GTs and Mach 1s and thinking they were badass! The cyclone does as much or more than any of those previous cars bone stock. Ford actually decreased v6 power for 2015 but any of the V6s after 2011 will run with earlier LS cars and any previous mustang besides a cobra. That being said the 5.0 is an animal and for the price it's unbeatable.
 

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Even though i have a GT, I don't know if I'll ever realize its upper limits. The fact that the V6 has 300 horse is damn good. That is a lot of power.
 

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"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler", so extolled Albert Einstein. The Cyclone V-6 Mustang engine is the simplest naturally-aspirated motor to be placed in the new generation Mustang's beautiful body. I'll bet that little motor, that never was destined to be placed in the S550, will end up being the "longevity champ". There will be less hassled miles put on Cyclones than any other iteration. IMHO.
Best ever.
 

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Even though i have a GT, I don't know if I'll ever realize its upper limits. The fact that the V6 has 300 horse is damn good. That is a lot of power.
Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"

As to the upper limits of the GT, I'll have to admit that this is the first car I've owned that I have yet to actually floor it. Maybe it's because I'm not 20 anymore, but while I've occasionally leaned on it hard briefly, I've never quite floored it yet. I keep the traction and stability control on, but it somehow still feels like it wants to yank out from under me and take off, and leave me floating in the air briefly behind it like Wile E. Coyote.
 

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Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"

As to the upper limits of the GT, I'll have to admit that this is the first car I've owned that I have yet to actually floor it. Maybe it's because I'm not 20 anymore, but while I've occasionally leaned on it hard briefly, I've never quite floored it yet. I keep the traction and stability control on, but it somehow still feels like it wants to yank out from under me and take off, and leave me floating in the air briefly behind it like Wile E. Coyote.
Floor it. :D
 

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slightly off topic, of driving experience ...

I haven't looked under the hood of a v6 Mustang, but my engine bay is packed tight. V8 is cool until it needs some trivial repair and the service guy says it will be $800 because they have to take a bunch of stuff apart or lift the motor.

I looked under the hood of a 2016 F150 v6, and there was a ton of room in the engine bay. It looked very easy to work on.

Of course, this sort of consideration is only relevant if you keep a car beyond warranty.
 

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Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"

As to the upper limits of the GT, I'll have to admit that this is the first car I've owned that I have yet to actually floor it. Maybe it's because I'm not 20 anymore, but while I've occasionally leaned on it hard briefly, I've never quite floored it yet. I keep the traction and stability control on, but it somehow still feels like it wants to yank out from under me and take off, and leave me floating in the air briefly behind it like Wile E. Coyote.
I'm the same way. The weather has been either cold and raining or cold and dry and it feels like the car loses traction under me even taking it easy so while I am getting used to the car, and while the weather sucks, I'm being gentle with it.

I tend to just cruise nice and easy and I'm content doing it.

I get a lot of Honda Civics and the like trying to cut in front of me, etc. I just let them because I have nothing to prove to them.
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