Arsenalslr95
V6 Tactical Operator
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I'm guessing that you just don't remember what the state of the art was back in the 90's-2000's. My 04 GTO with a 5.7 made 350hp- same as the Corvette and same as the Hemi in my Ram. The next year with the 6.0 made 400. 300 out of a 4.6 NA car in the 90's was quite good. Now, whether they should have put a larger engine in the Mustang is a different question. But, the manufactures are always juggling emissions and CAFE as well as HP. The old 302 was a dinosaur and couldn't meet either modern emissions or fuel economy standards.I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the 4.6. 300 HP out of the 4.6 is disgraceful in my opinion. What a boat anchor! That number is ok from a V6, but it is very low for a V8, unless the displacement is well under 4 liters.
They should have been making at least 350 - 370 with 4.6 liters when it first came out in the Mustang in 96. And after they had many years to tweak the design they should have been closer to 400 or above 400 HP. To me the 4.6 was a wasted design. They could have just slapped a better set of heads on the pushrod 302 and made more than 300 HP. With the 302 the car could have been significantly smaller and lighter as well.
Progress. After all, for the 5th gen, the 3-valve 4.6 was making just about the same power that the earlier 4-valve Cobra Mustang engine made.I'm talking about the later 4.6 in the S197 (300hp/300Ib-ft). I owned the one in my sig for 7 years. In recent years the Ford engineers have been really good at squeezing every bit of performance and efficiency out of their engines.
Best ever."Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler", so extolled Albert Einstein. The Cyclone V-6 Mustang engine is the simplest naturally-aspirated motor to be placed in the new generation Mustang's beautiful body. I'll bet that little motor, that never was destined to be placed in the S550, will end up being the "longevity champ". There will be less hassled miles put on Cyclones than any other iteration. IMHO.
Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"Even though i have a GT, I don't know if I'll ever realize its upper limits. The fact that the V6 has 300 horse is damn good. That is a lot of power.
Floor it.Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"
As to the upper limits of the GT, I'll have to admit that this is the first car I've owned that I have yet to actually floor it. Maybe it's because I'm not 20 anymore, but while I've occasionally leaned on it hard briefly, I've never quite floored it yet. I keep the traction and stability control on, but it somehow still feels like it wants to yank out from under me and take off, and leave me floating in the air briefly behind it like Wile E. Coyote.
I'm the same way. The weather has been either cold and raining or cold and dry and it feels like the car loses traction under me even taking it easy so while I am getting used to the car, and while the weather sucks, I'm being gentle with it.Definitely - what was considered high-performance in 1970 is now "the base V6 model"
As to the upper limits of the GT, I'll have to admit that this is the first car I've owned that I have yet to actually floor it. Maybe it's because I'm not 20 anymore, but while I've occasionally leaned on it hard briefly, I've never quite floored it yet. I keep the traction and stability control on, but it somehow still feels like it wants to yank out from under me and take off, and leave me floating in the air briefly behind it like Wile E. Coyote.