Does The EcoBoost Need A Catch Can?

[ronv95]

Alright Mishimoto, and everyone else. I've got my 2000 degree flame suit on
A little urban engineering. It's just an experiment that's reverseable. Yea it doesn't look great, but a coat of black plasti-dip will help. Let me have it, I can take it!

I think coated black it will look good.

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[doulos4jc]

I think coated black it will look good.

Thanks, that's all 3/8" coming off the bottom of the can so it's a little bulky.

 

[Anthony@HTM]

Thanks, that's all 3/8" coming off the bottom of the can so it's a little bulky.

Looks good! Did you see if they had a 3/8 brass ball valve and a 3/8 nipple instead? Should be much smaller.

 

[doulos4jc]

Looks good! Did you see if they had a 3/8 brass ball valve and a 3/8 nipple instead? Should be much smaller.

This was stuff I got from my work. 3/8" is definitely overkill for a drain valve. No doubt you could find something smaller.

 

[Dirtleg]

Alright Mishimoto, and everyone else. I've got my 2000 degree flame suit on
A little urban engineering. It's just an experiment that's reverseable. Yea it doesn't look great, but a coat of black plasti-dip will help. Let me have it, I can take it!

Haha I love it. Definitely a departure from most underhood components but props for just doing it your own way.

 

[doulos4jc]

Catch can retro fit 201. Valve blacked out with plasti-dip, looks much better, IMO. Thanks for taking it easy on me, I thought I was gonna get thumped for sure.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Use this for catch can drainage:

http://www.qwikvalve.com/?gclid=CMi7vsPeiMQCFZcdgQod3roANg

I've used those valves on many cars in the past, never an issue and surely speeds up oil changes for those who do their own maintenance.

Here is another company that produces a similar drain valve that is nickel plated:
http://www.ezoildrainvalve.com

 

[Mishimoto]

Alright Mishimoto, and everyone else. I've got my 2000 degree flame suit on
A little urban engineering. It's just an experiment that's reverseable. Yea it doesn't look great, but a coat of black plasti-dip will help. Let me have it, I can take it!

Not bad, the plasti-dip makes it look much better!

Haha I love it. Definitely a departure from most underhood components but props for just doing it your own way.

Agreed!

Just curious -

If such a device was "needed" as professionally explained in the design/development of this product (and many other such catch cans regardless of vehicle make/manufacturer and/or selling vendors) - why didn't the automotive Engineeers incorporate such an important item from the start?

I'm in no way trying to be sarcastic, rude, ignorant or even down playing the product (looks great!). I just want to get more input as to why all the sudden "catch cans" are such a needed integral part of an engine, but no one in the auto industry has incorporated them yet?

There are a couple reasons. First, before direct injection the fuel spraying on the valves cleaned them so it wasn't as important to catch the oil. Second, manufactureres don't want to add extra maintenance steps for people to take care of. Its no skin off Fords back if the consumer has to pay the dealership to clean the valves as long as the engine doesn't break before the warranty expires.

Also, Ford racing released their own catch can so they obviously think there is a potential benefit.

Thanks Dragon, great explanation here. It is difficult enough to bring regular folks into the shop for normal oil change services, let alone asking them to empty a catch can on a regular interval. This of course does not apply to enthusiasts (like the folks on this forum) who normally stay on top of maintenance and repairs.

For modern direct injected engines, a catch can is a necessity to avoid valve buildup. The only exception would be engines which utilize direct injection and port injection (BRZ/FR-S)

Thanks!
-John

Use this for catch can drainage:

http://www.qwikvalve.com/?gclid=CMi7vsPeiMQCFZcdgQod3roANg

I've used those valves on many cars in the past, never an issue and surely speeds up oil changes for those who do their own maintenance.

Here is another company that produces a similar drain valve that is nickel plated:
http://www.ezoildrainvalve.com

Yes, a drain valve of this sort is certainly an option. Removing the can base is not difficult with this kit installed. If you would prefer to keep the base on, we do offer a drain valve kit which is a bit more discreet and is designed specifically for our catch can. Check it out below!

http://www.mishimoto.com/compact-baffled-oil-catch-can-petcock-drain-kit.html

Thanks
-John

 

[rizwan10aslam]

Just tried to install my catch can. Couldnt remove the quick disconnect fitting from the intake manifold. Could someone please explain how to remove them? Also do i have to use jack stands to remove the engine block hose or can it be done without raising the car?

 

[e30og]

you guys would benefit from some kind of DIY valve cleaning system, be it a material blast or chemical. Most every ecoboost owner would have to face that at some point in the life of the car, especially if they are picking these up second hand or have buildup regardless. That would fit any ecoboost ford or any DI for that matter. I want 10% for the idea

 

[boosted_orange]

Just tried to install my catch can. Couldnt remove the quick disconnect fitting from the intake manifold. Could someone please explain how to remove them? Also do i have to use jack stands to remove the engine block hose or can it be done without raising the car?

What catch can did you get?

 

[RubyRacer]

Catch can retro fit 201. Valve blacked out with plasti-dip, looks much better, IMO. Thanks for taking it easy on me, I thought I was gonna get thumped for sure.

Looks good, Jay!

 

[Dirtleg]

Just tried to install my catch can. Couldnt remove the quick disconnect fitting from the intake manifold. Could someone please explain how to remove them? Also do i have to use jack stands to remove the engine block hose or can it be done without raising the car?

The white ring on the fitting is the retainer clip. Pull it up until the fitting is free to slide off the intake. Same thing at the engine connection.

If you have the PP and don't have tiny hands you'll most likely have to jack it up to get to the fitting. If you don't have the PP you may be able to get to the engine connection from the top.

 

[rizwan10aslam]

The white ring on the fitting is the retainer clip. Pull it up until the fitting is free to slide off the intake. Same thing at the engine connection.

If you have the PP and don't have tiny hands you'll most likely have to jack it up to get to the fitting. If you don't have the PP you may be able to get to the engine connection from the top.

It is a non PP. How do i remove the engine cover?

 

[Herr Squid]

It is a non PP. How do i remove the engine cover?

That's easy, there's just two nuts and two bolts to remove from the top of the engine cover, and it comes right off. You want 8mm and 10mm sockets if I remember right.

However, I have a hell of a time getting my hands in there still, and still need to get some jackstands or something (and figure out where to put 'em) to get under the car.

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