Does anyone know if Ford Performance kit will work on '22?

[Cobrakit]

Its apples and organges. If you want to run E85 or planning on more engine mods, don't buy Ford tune. E85 will always provide more horsepower. I have the Ford tune in my DD19 PP1 A10 and happy. Can't use all the power on the street even though i try, everyday.

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[joe603]

Well, it may be two years before I hit 5k miles on it. Not a daily driver. And I have Ford ESP through 8yrs/100k miles, so I don't want to destroy that. With the various oil consumption issues that have occurred on Gen3s, I'm hesitant to do anything to put engine warranty into question.

How much HP/torque increase could one expect from a non-factory custom tune?

The way the warranty works with the FP tune and the Roush Supercharger is they will warranty the product for 3/36 from the start of the car's original warranty. To get that, it needs to be installed by an ASE tech or Ford tech. Now were it gets fuzzy, is what happens after your car hits 3y/36k if you purchased an extended warranty. I just bought my 21 and did a 6y/80k with a service plan. I really want the Roush SC...but not sure what happens if my engine has an issue after that 36k mark. I "think" that the 3y/36k is for the SC itself and after that, you're SOL if it tanks. Not sure if Ford will pay for a new engine. I think the FP tune is similar.

I know there have been discussions about this, but I don't remember seeing a definitive answer to who pays for a new engine after 3y/36k when the extended warranty kicks in.

 

[Bikeman315]

The way the warranty works with the FP tune and the Roush Supercharger is they will warranty the product for 3/36 from the start of the car's original warranty. To get that, it needs to be installed by an ASE tech or Ford tech. Now were it gets fuzzy, is what happens after your car hits 3y/36k if you purchased an extended warranty. I just bought my 21 and did a 6y/80k with a service plan. I really want the Roush SC...but not sure what happens if my engine has an issue after that 36k mark. I "think" that the 3y/36k is for the SC itself and after that, you're SOL if it tanks. Not sure if Ford will pay for a new engine. I think the FP tune is similar.

I know there have been discussions about this, but I don't remember seeing a definitive answer to who pays for a new engine after 3y/36k when the extended warranty kicks in.

The FP warranty supersedes the Ford factory warranty. The Ford ESP will not cover any FP parts. Now if you have an engine failure that you can prove wasn’t caused by the SC then the Ford warranty might cover it. But that’s a really big ask.

 

[joe603]

The FP warranty supersedes the Ford factory warranty. The Ford ESP will not cover any FP parts. Now if you have an engine failure that you can prove wasn’t caused by the SC then the Ford warranty might cover it. But that’s a really big ask.

Yup...that's my worry.

 

[Firsttexan]

I would have no idea where to ask that question, but thanks for posting!

Give Ford Performance a call.

 

[Bikeman315]

Give Ford Performance a call.

Mike, I already chatted with FP (post #10) and got the answer. So did @br_an

 

[geep81]

My two cents and I know you want your warranty but....

While you are not wrong, as an enthusiast for my whole life I have seen all sorts of issues with cars when they are modded. Things you gotta work out, get tweaked, etc. Not even talking major things, just issues.

This Ford kit solves all of that, gives a lot of us the improvements we want, and aside from the warranty I just feel better knowing Ford engineers made the tune because I truly believe they know what they are doing. I don't want a headache when I am trying to enjoy my Mustang.

 

[Ponyupnow]

I think the ad on ford says 18- 2021....can they make it any clear?.. Ford will put out a revision in a couple years....as far as I know is the same as with the tune for the 15-2017. Don't try to force staff that's not calibrated for your engine.

 

[ZeroTX]

I think the ad on ford says 18- 2021....can they make it any clear?.. Ford will put out a revision in a couple years....as far as I know is the same as with the tune for the 15-2017. Don't try to force staff that's not calibrated for your engine.

I get it. Not trying to "force" anything... the '22 engine isn't different, so the 15-17 comparison doesn't apply. That was a generational change, this is not. It's a slight year-to-year difference and mechanically no change to the engine.

 

[Ponyupnow]

While you are not wrong, as an enthusiast for my whole life I have seen all sorts of issues with cars when they are modded. Things you gotta work out, get tweaked, etc. Not even talking major things, just issues.

This Ford kit solves all of that, gives a lot of us the improvements we want, and aside from the warranty I just feel better knowing Ford engineers made the tune because I truly believe they know what they are doing. I don't want a headache when I am trying to enjoy my Mustang.

Stay with the Ford tune...when it comes out....Hard to imagine a guy in a garage and a laptop knows more than the 100s of thousands of dollars or testing hrs that Ford throws to its engineers to come up with a tune and still provide a warranty...wonder if Lund will buy a new engine if it's found out their tune made your engine seized?

 

[KingKona]

...I have Ford ESP through 8yrs/100k miles, so I don't want to destroy that......How much HP/torque increase could one expect from a non-factory custom tune?

This doesn't make any sense.

Why are you asking about a non-factory custom tune, when you're worried about your warranty?

ETA; oil consumption is something that occurs right from the first mile. Right from the get-go. If it was going to happen, it would have already.

 

[Zelek]

While you are not wrong, as an enthusiast for my whole life I have seen all sorts of issues with cars when they are modded. Things you gotta work out, get tweaked, etc. Not even talking major things, just issues.

This Ford kit solves all of that, gives a lot of us the improvements we want, and aside from the warranty I just feel better knowing Ford engineers made the tune because I truly believe they know what they are doing. I don't want a headache when I am trying to enjoy my Mustang.

Bolt ons aren't really modding hard though. Like I said, you need a tuner who knows what he's doing and you have really nothing to worry about. Now if you throw on superchargers and turbos.... you're risking a bit more. This engine is pretty solid and has been for many years. This is also why I mentioned driving it a few thousand miles before committing to something.

The manual also says don't put E85 in the car and I ran E85 in my 2017 for two years straight with zero issues. Coyotes love corn.

 

[ZeroTX]

This doesn't make any sense.

Why are you asking about a non-factory custom tune, when you're worried about your warranty?

ETA; oil consumption is something that occurs right from the first mile. Right from the get-go. If it was going to happen, it would have already.

I was asking about a non-factory tune, because one of the replies to this thread suggested doing that instead and going with E85. I wanted to know the differential between the performance offered by both.

My car has under 200 miles on it right now, so I probably wouldn't have any idea about things like that yet. Maybe after 5,000.

 

[KingKona]

I was asking about a non-factory tune, because one of the replies to this thread suggested doing that instead and going with E85. I wanted to know the differential between the performance offered by both.

My car has under 200 miles on it right now, so I probably wouldn't have any idea about things like that yet. Maybe after 5,000.

You've got to be watching your oil level like a hawk for the first few oil changes.

Like. A. Hawk. Check it at least every 1K miles. Don't wait until 5K miles to check it.

I still don't understand why you're asking about a non factory tune, when you've already purchase the ESP and don't want to void it for the engine by tuning the car.

 

[ZeroTX]

You've got to be watching your oil level like a hawk for the first few oil changes.

Like. A. Hawk. Check it at least every 1K miles. Don't wait until 5K miles to check it.

Thanks for the tip.

I still don't understand why you're asking about a non factory tune...

Nevermind....

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