Crashed don't even know wtf happened

[shogun32]

how about the head angle of the various links? And is the shock shaft still straight? Depends on the severity of "severe" but I would insist on disassembly and detailed inspection of suspension members and validation against specs.

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[br_an]

That's crazy! Sorry to hear about your car... Best of luck with the repairs!

 

[mAkI]

how about the head angle of the various links? And is the shock shaft still straight? Depends on the severity of "severe" but I would insist on disassembly and detailed inspection of suspension members and validation against specs.

Thank you for the insight, I'm no mechanic but based on my knowledge on cars it all seems in good shape. But I will definitely ask caliber collision to inspect that and maybe request a report on it comparing with oem specs. Don't know if that is something they can provide. They are however, ford authorized so I would hope they make sure everything is within specs. I am so inclined to post so here it is. I'm making sure I upload one from night time and one I haven't supplied to the insurance

 

[Cobra Jet]

Thank you for the insight, I'm no mechanic but based on my knowledge on cars it all seems in good shape. But I will definitely ask caliber collision to inspect that and maybe request a report on it comparing with oem specs. Don't know if that is something they can provide. They are however, ford authorized so I would hope they make sure everything is within specs. I am so inclined to post so here it is. I'm making sure I upload one from night time and one I haven't supplied to the insurance

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Is that damage from you hitting the wall/tree?

 

[mAkI]

Ya it scraped the fender right off

 

[mAkI]

So after a bunch of crap and an accident investigation. They finally picked up the car and is at a ford authorized repair shop. Everything will be replaced with OEM parts except for the fender liner which I honestly don't care about. They're replacing front two tires as well. After everything is done and I make sure all is working good. I will be switching insurance companies. This was the biggest headache ever. In past 10 years, I never had an issue with Geico, now they did an entire investigation and still ended up repairing the car. I had updated my policy 3 days before the accident so apparently their system automatically flagged it.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

So after a bunch of crap and an accident investigation. They finally picked up the car and is at a ford authorized repair shop. Everything will be replaced with OEM parts except for the fender liner which I honestly don't care about. They're replacing front two tires as well. After everything is done and I make sure all is working good. I will be switching insurance companies. This was the biggest headache ever. In past 10 years, I never had an issue with Geico, now they did an entire investigation and still ended up repairing the car. I had updated my policy 3 days before the accident so apparently their system automatically flagged it.

So, what did they determine happened to cause the wreck?

 

[mAkI]

So, what did they determine happened to cause the wreck?

They couldn't figure out what caused the accident... but believed my story end of day.. also they pulled data from my car's computer and said I was going faster than the speed I stated (45-50mph) and in actuality I was going around 60 and "moments" before the impact I was going 90+ which was not moments but at least 8 minutes before while I was on the highway.. there's no possibility of going that fast on a two lane street which was merging right past where the accident happened and further down there's speed humps as its a residential area. The body shop will inspect every single part then it will be sent to another location to check everything in suspension and get alignment. They will also inspect anything that could have possibly caused the hop/traction lost. Someone at the body shop suggested I could have gone over an oil spill or something that caused traction loss in the rear. Anyhow, It will take a little over a month for them to source all the replacement parts from ford and fully repair the car to factory spec.

 

[dpAtlanta]

The only thing on your vehicle that records speed is the Airbag Control Module (ACM). If your airbag did not deploy, then you must have had a near-deployment event which stored data.
The ACM's only records 5 seconds of data prior to an event.
I'm not guessing... I do this for a living.
I used to do a lot of black box downloads for GEICO... they purchased their own BOSCH CDR equipment and no longer use us for accident reconstruction. The have their SIU investigators download the data and supply it to the adjusters, who handle the claims.

 

[K4fxd]

I had an event a while back. I was on a 2 lane country road and was following a garbage truck. I saw an opening where I could make the pass. I floored the pedal and the car took off, then out of nowhere the tires lost traction, the car went sideways in an instant. I almost became another mustang YT video.

The only thing that kept me out of the trees was my dirt track and road course driving experience.

I now have more respect for the midrange power of this 5 liter engine, and zero confidence in the traction control.

With the black box saying you were going 90+ it very well could be the tires broke loose and you could not catch the spin.

 

[mAkI]

I had an event a while back. I was on a 2 lane country road and was following a garbage truck. I saw an opening where I could make the pass. I floored the pedal and the car took off, then out of nowhere the tires lost traction, the car went sideways in an instant. I almost became another mustang YT video.

The only thing that kept me out of the trees was my dirt track and road course driving experience.

I now have more respect for the midrange power of this 5 liter engine, and zero confidence in the traction control.

With the black box saying you were going 90+ it very well could be the tires broke loose and you could not catch the spin.

Wondering if dpAtlanta can shed some light on traction loss. Also, how did you pull your blackbox report? I dont think a normal obd can do so.

 

[Cobra Jet]

They couldn't figure out what caused the accident... but believed my story end of day.. also they pulled data from my car's computer and said I was going faster than the speed I stated (45-50mph) and in actuality I was going around 60 and "moments" before the impact I was going 90+ which was not moments but at least 8 minutes before while I was on the highway.. there's no possibility of going that fast on a two lane street which was merging right past where the accident happened and further down there's speed humps as its a residential area. The body shop will inspect every single part then it will be sent to another location to check everything in suspension and get alignment. They will also inspect anything that could have possibly caused the hop/traction lost. Someone at the body shop suggested I could have gone over an oil spill or something that caused traction loss in the rear. Anyhow, It will take a little over a month for them to source all the replacement parts from ford and fully repair the car to factory spec.

Well it’s good you’re getting your car fixed.

I can see why they (or ANY Ins Co.) would be investigating - when a driver states they cannot recall “how” it could have happened. Did you request any highway or roadway Cam feeds of the day to see what happened? Most States or County Govs can supply Video from key points of roadway up to x-days after an event.

First, in CA and Los Angeles specifically, the State Highway posted speeds seem to be 65mph. You state you were doing 90 mph 8 mins before the accident occurred. That is 25mph over the posted speed limit - granted may not sound like a lot, but it’s still 25mph over - not 5 or 10....

Sure everyone and their mother surpasses posted speed limits at one time or another - so not judging at all... everyone does it, it happens.

But that data log is not helping your case.

Are you certain you were paying attention after exiting the highway and maybe did not see, but *possibly* hit one of those “speed humps” you mentioned during a transition on the roadway? That would throw the vehicle off kilter.... even if it was not a direct hit, but only 1 wheel went over it at speed.

Not judging or anything like that - just wondering how the whole thing unfolded without any recollection of the “before”.

 

[mAkI]

Well it’s good you’re getting your car fixed.

I can see why they (or ANY Ins Co.) would be investigating - when a driver states they cannot recall “how” it could have happened. Did you request any highway or roadway Cam feeds of the day to see what happened? Most States or County Govs can supply Video from key points of roadway up to x-days after an event.

First, in CA and Los Angeles specifically, the State Highway posted speeds seem to be 65mph. You state you were doing 90 mph 8 mins before the accident occurred. That is 25mph over the posted speed limit - granted may not sound like a lot, but it’s still 25mph over - not 5 or 10....

Sure everyone and their mother surpasses posted speed limits at one time or another - so not judging at all... everyone does it, it happens.

But that data log is not helping your case.

Are you certain you were paying attention after exiting the highway and maybe did not see, but *possibly* hit one of those “speed humps” you mentioned during a transition on the roadway? That would throw the vehicle off kilter.... even if it was not a direct hit, but only 1 wheel went over it at speed.

Not judging or anything like that - just wondering how the whole thing unfolded without any recollection of the “before”.

I was paying attention. There was a stop light where I stopped and then I accelerated through the next intersection where the accident happened. The speed bump is still further down the road after a curve. What my ins company told me the reason behind flagging it was because I had changed my policy 3 days before the accident where I had changed my comprehensive deductible to 0 (following an expensive rock chip on the windshield a week before). The rear wheel seemed like it hopped for whatever reason, I didn't see anything on the road otherwise I'd apply the brakes. Yes, I was speeding on an open highway before the accident happened no regrets there as the bullitt is fun on open stretches. Regardless, they would have to reimburse me as I have full coverage, so it didn't make sense for them to launch an investigation and hold my car from being repaired for over a month... They reconstructed the accident by pulling the computer data and everything I told them lined up except for the speed... the steering angle, brakes when they were applied and the median all was recorded on it. the speed before the first impact was 59mph. It was still above the posted speed limit. from there, they have a record of even the steering input what angle I turned the wheels etc. I don't understand what they mean by 90mph moments before since, I got off the highway sat on the exit ramp red light for a few minutes. then sat on another light for a few minutes then the next light is where I lost control of the car.

 

[Gregs24]

I was paying attention. There was a stop light where I stopped and then I accelerated through the next intersection where the accident happened. The speed bump is still further down the road after a curve. What my ins company told me the reason behind flagging it was because I had changed my policy 3 days before the accident where I had changed my comprehensive deductible to 0 (following an expensive rock chip on the windshield a week before). The rear wheel seemed like it hopped for whatever reason, I didn't see anything on the road otherwise I'd apply the brakes. Yes, I was speeding on an open highway before the accident happened no regrets there as the bullitt is fun on open stretches. Regardless, they would have to reimburse me as I have full coverage, so it didn't make sense for them to launch an investigation and hold my car from being repaired for over a month... They reconstructed the accident by pulling the computer data and everything I told them lined up except for the speed... the steering angle, brakes when they were applied and the median all was recorded on it. the speed before the first impact was 59mph. It was still above the posted speed limit. from there, they have a record of even the steering input what angle I turned the wheels etc. I don't understand what they mean by 90mph moments before since, I got off the highway sat on the exit ramp red light for a few minutes. then sat on another light for a few minutes then the next light is where I lost control of the car.

Not sure what the legal situation is in the US but insurers here in the UK DO NOT have to pay out if it can be demonstrated that your actions were in part negligent and contributed to the accident. This may be why they are looking into it to determine if your driving behaviour could have contributed to the accident.

Example wording in the UK:


An accident that’s your fault because you were heavily negligent or broke the law can be refused.

Insurers might reject your claim if your accident was caused by your illegal actions, like speeding or being under the influence of drugs or alcohol. You could also be prosecuted.

Stay alert and follow the rules of the road to minimise the risk of accidents and keep yourself and others safe.

 

[K4fxd]

If the box only records 5 seconds, I thought it was 30 min, then your tires broke loose and you lost control.

I'd like to see a print out of the log.

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