Coyote 3 Oil Catch Can

[XeninWorX]

I’m waiting on my Moroso catch can to come in. Comes with a bracket specific for the S197 to hold it in place. I was also looking at a Mishimoto one but the bracket interferes with my strut bar. It’s harder to find vehicle specific catch cans in Canada which is why I ordered a Moroso one as I can get it from a local vendor.

I don’t like catch cans that aren’t bolted down to secure it from moving. Everything else in the engine bay is secured down so why not a catch can too, like the Ford ones. Think about it, the catch can unsecured is moving around up and down as your driving shaking the oil and possibly going into the intake manifold. Just my thoughts on it.

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[RasJeremy]

An update here from Denmark.

Just stored the car away for the winter and drained the catch can before I tugged the car away.

This is from the last 2000km / 1240 miles
The paper towel has been stuffed in the output line from the catch can to see if any oilmist has passed and it was quite dry with only minimal oil, so all seems to be pretty good

 

[Vlad Soare]

It seems to be roughly twice what it was, both in yours and mine, after one thousand kilometers. So the amount of oil caught seems to be fairly constant - around five milliliters, give or take, per thousand kilometers. That's good to know. It means there's no need to keep a sharp eye on the can. Emptying it every five (or even ten) thousand kilometers would be just fine. That means perhaps twice a year. That's not bad.

 

[Elp_jc]

Do you guys still have the stock PCV valve? Just curious.

 

[RasJeremy]

Do you guys still have the stock PCV valve? Just curious.

Yeah - only changed the line to the JLT catch can.

Is it recommended to swap it to a different one or just to make a note of it? I know you wrote just curious but I have searched for some minutes now without finding anything about changing to a better valve

 

[Andrew@Lethal]

I'm sure it doesn't hurt to have the extra insurance, but I considered getting a catch can for my 2019 GT and just passed on doing it. I had already spent a wad on an extra set of wheels/tires, tint, PPF, etc.

Primarily, I had looked at other cars with direct injection (notably the Volkswagen Golf R) and those vehicles had pretty established histories with their direct injection causing carbon buildup engine problems that a catch can helped with. My impression was that the entire idea of Ford and Toyota having both direct and port injection was supposed to be to avoid the carbon buildup on the valves that direct injection alone would create, right?

So, now, I'm sitting at 16k miles and I'm feeling a vibe that I really screwed up not putting a catch can on my car and I'm wondering if anyone has seen a Coyote 3 experience buildup without a catch can? Is there any definitive evidence that it is actually needed for anything other than a potential performance gain from catching that extra oil while driving hard?

Honestly, I got a little put off of making any mechanical mods to my car while under warranty with all of the hoopla over the engine tick madness too. I've not had any trouble with my motor and I've had clean oil analysis come back twice so far.

It isn't necessarily needed. But it is a good mod. We sell UPR and JLT cans here at www.lethalperformance.com. We currently have our black Friday deals going on as well!

 

[XeninWorX]

I don’t think there is any better PCVs out there. Just OEM. On my V6 I changed the hose on the driver side as it looked restricting. All 1/2” hoses.

 

[IamCDNJosh]

So this may not be a popular opinion but I've never really seen hard evidence that a catch can will prevent valve coking in a DI motor. One of the original design benefits was to reduce the amount of oil vapor in the intake tract which can cause knocking at higher RPM's.

Now I've seen a number of youtube video's showing what comes out of a catch can after "X" miles, but that doesn't mean all of that material is deposited on the back of the valves nor does it catch 100% of the oil vapor.

For the record I have a FP catch can on my Mustang but no catch can on my F150 eco. The only reason I have it for the mustang is for performance reasons because I intend to use it for track days, not for some kind of insurance policy.

 

[Vlad Soare]

Do you guys still have the stock PCV valve? Just curious.

Yes. I didn't know there was anything wrong with it. Is there?
I've read a lot about catch cans, but can't remember seeing anything about the valve itself.

 

[Fastfwd]

Well, emptied out my Ford Performance catch can after a trip over to Arkansas that involved some spirited driving. Probably about 2k miles since I installed it. Looks like about 16ml or just over 1/2oz. Seemed like a lot, but I did do some fairly hard driving in the twisties over there so I expected it to probably catch some blow by.

What is the capacity of the Ford Performance catch can btw? Anyone know offhand? I'll need to do a search on that to see how often I should be checking it.

As a side note - it was pretty easy to empty. I did loosen the engine cover - 2 nuts. Didn't have to remove it or anything. It comes out pretty easy once that is loosened.

 

[Elp_jc]

Is it recommended to swap it to a different one or just to make a note of it?

There's a new version, probably for a reason. It's only $7, so I changed it, and no oil consumption. Worth the effort, but to each his own. Saw the difference when upside down vs stock one, but look identical otherwise.

 

[Fastfwd]

Well, emptied out my Ford Performance catch can after a trip over to Arkansas that involved some spirited driving. Probably about 2k miles since I installed it. Looks like about 16ml or just over 1/2oz. Seemed like a lot, but I did do some fairly hard driving in the twisties over there so I expected it to probably catch some blow by.

What is the capacity of the Ford Performance catch can btw? Anyone know offhand? I'll need to do a search on that to see how often I should be checking it.

As a side note - it was pretty easy to empty. I did loosen the engine cover - 2 nuts. Didn't have to remove it or anything. It comes out pretty easy once that is loosened.

This picture made me realize the syringe itself took up 5ml of that amount. So, like 11ml. Probably not too awful.

 

[Vlad Soare]

There's a new version, probably for a reason. It's only $7, so I changed it, and no oil consumption. Worth the effort, but to each his own. Saw the difference when upside down vs stock one, but look identical otherwise.

Was it easy to change? Do you happen to know the part number?

 

[Elp_jc]

The FP catch can holds like 3 oz, even though it looks bigger. But one of the hoses is pretty low into the cavity, so the actual capacity is quite low. I'd get that one, if I ever decide to install one. So far with no visible oil consumption, will leave things alone.

 

[S550_Newbie]

Well, emptied out my Ford Performance catch can after a trip over to Arkansas that involved some spirited driving. Probably about 2k miles since I installed it. Looks like about 16ml or just over 1/2oz. Seemed like a lot, but I did do some fairly hard driving in the twisties over there so I expected it to probably catch some blow by.

What is the capacity of the Ford Performance catch can btw? Anyone know offhand? I'll need to do a search on that to see how often I should be checking it.

As a side note - it was pretty easy to empty. I did loosen the engine cover - 2 nuts. Didn't have to remove it or anything. It comes out pretty easy once that is loosened.

You should just be able to unplug the connectors and dump it out from the lower port, no?

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