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As always, it pays to do even the most basic of research into the person making the claims. Or perhaps to do a google search for the work they’ve published in the past. It’s really not that hard.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.thefocus.news/health-and-fitness/geert-vanden-bossche/amp/

https://scholar.google.com.au/schol...+articles&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
Yep, saw that. He is basically a nobody DVM with some weird ideas not backed by any real research.
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I'm not super human so no I wouldn't willingly ingest any virus.

However I did have the covid and it was nothing but a mild cold for me, so I am willing to stop all this nonsense and get back to normal life.

I believe we should treat this like any other virus. If we are sick we should stay home. If we are in the vulnerable demographic we should take precautions. Locking down the world is not the answer.
Yep, the hell with over one half million of us who have died? Right? They are mostly old people anyway...

Saddens me to see how selfish and self-serving some people are. Ugly really.
 

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Fiancé got both shots about a month ago (Pfizer) since she’s a school teacher. Her second shot was tougher - 24 hours of fever/body aches… but then it cleared up fine.

I had my first Pfizer shot two weeks ago… and barely had a sore arm. My second shot is upcoming - will interesting to see how it goes!

I find the shot reactions fascinating (especially from the mRNA based shots). There is no virus in the shot at all - so the only thing you’re feeling is your own body’s immune system. Really shows you that a lot of what we feel when we’re “sick” is our own immune system…
 

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Saddens me to see how selfish and self-serving some people are. Ugly really.
I'm selfish for wanting our lives to go back to normal?

No other time in history have we crippled healthy people and destroyed our economy. We are voting ourselves money that doesn't exist. Who is going to pay for it? Our kids and grand kids. So who the hell is being selfish and ugly? 90% of this money is not even going to us. It is going to leftist special interests.

So said the guy who couldn't tell the truth about what he had for breakfast?
Sadly that is and was the media and leftist mantra. There were no lies, just words taken out of context.
 

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Yep, the hell with over one half million of us who have died? Right? They are mostly old people anyway...

Saddens me to see how selfish and self-serving some people are. Ugly really.
Hello; In a different thread which is now dormant there was a lot of accusing people of being selfish and self serving. That thread was about forgiveness of federal student loans. Those who did not want to have those loans forgiven were called selfish and also only concerned about themselves.
You have been adding such comments in several posts, even calling those who disagree with you ugly.
A few years ago I had reason to be involved in discussions with a fellow who have very different opinions to my own. He would resort to the same sort of assuming he owned the moral high ground. That fellow used the stance so he could dismiss arguments which did not fit into a narrow range he happened to favor. That form of negative talk did not help his arguments and did offend more than convert. I figure your comments do much the same.

The fellow you are insulting had a mild case of the virus. He was lucky in that respect. That he wants to get back to his normal life seems reasonable. He cannot catch that same virus again and cannot spread it to others. There is no reason for him to wear a mask or be restricted from ordinary activities. Wanting to be "normal" does not imply he does not care about others.

It is not the general public's fault those in top positions of the medical community have screwed things up the way they have. People cannot take trust away from a person, a person has to do things themselves to lose that trust. The trust is damaged now for some and lost for others.
 

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76-year-old, in fair to partly cloudy physical condition. Got my second Moderna vaccination shot three days ago. No reaction whatsoever to either shot - no swelling, no fever, no dizziness; nada.
 

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Hello; I intended to go over the percentages of survival from covid19 infections. I could find CDC data some weeks ago but do not find it now. In a past post I used the wording that survival overall was in the high 90% range. I do think the number was at or close to over 99% but cannot recall the exact number so used high 90%.
I also think the more at risk group of us older folks had a near 95% survival rate.

I do not know if I am not searching the CDC information site properly or if that information is no longer being reported. If it is no longer being reported I am curious as to why. The information seemed to be a very positive in the midst of the pandemic.
 

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Recently over in the EU there's a major flap over the AstraZeneca experimental medical injection arising from observed clotting disorders post-stick. Is nobody over there paying attention? Clotting disorder is precisely one of the outcomes of auto-immune disregulation resulting from a Wuhan infection. How is it so difficult to grok that a 'look-alike' may well trigger a similar reaction?

Are the unwitting lab rats being given full and proper notice as to what could occur?
 

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I'll take my chances with a vaccine that might give me immunity to it.
except it provably does NOT give you (sterilizing) immunity. NO WHERE in the documentation do they make that assertion. They ONLY assert that it *might* reduce the severity of the disease - ala symptoms. Except we already have multiple very tried and true therapeutics that reduce the severity of the disease, and even some that appear to wholesale prevent an infection from taking root at all.
 
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Hello; In a different thread which is now dormant there was a lot of accusing people of being selfish and self serving. That thread was about forgiveness of federal student loans. Those who did not want to have those loans forgiven were called selfish and also only concerned about themselves.
You have been adding such comments in several posts, even calling those who disagree with you ugly.
A few years ago I had reason to be involved in discussions with a fellow who have very different opinions to my own. He would resort to the same sort of assuming he owned the moral high ground. That fellow used the stance so he could dismiss arguments which did not fit into a narrow range he happened to favor. That form of negative talk did not help his arguments and did offend more than convert. I figure your comments do much the same.

The fellow you are insulting had a mild case of the virus. He was lucky in that respect. That he wants to get back to his normal life seems reasonable. He cannot catch that same virus again and cannot spread it to others. There is no reason for him to wear a mask or be restricted from ordinary activities. Wanting to be "normal" does not imply he does not care about others.

It is not the general public's fault those in top positions of the medical community have screwed things up the way they have. People cannot take trust away from a person, a person has to do things themselves to lose that trust. The trust is damaged now for some and lost for others.
I kinda do own the moral high ground here. There are the families of over half a million dead people that would agree with me. I don't give a whit about student loan debt. I care more about dead people that would otherwise be alive if people were not so damn stubborn and selfish. Look at Florida now with all the spring breakers.

Oh and show me the evidence that someone cannot catch the virus again or any of the many more virulent variants or that asymptomatic people do not spread active disease. There is none. Masking is still recommended when out in public even for those that have had it and those that have been vaccinated. For all sorts of logical reasons.

I also take offence that those in the top of the medical community have screwed tings up in any way. I have no idea what you are talking about damaged trust. Makes no sense and makes me thing you have an agenda.
 

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Recently over in the EU there's a major flap over the AstraZeneca experimental medical injection arising from observed clotting disorders post-stick. Is nobody over there paying attention? Clotting disorder is precisely one of the outcomes of auto-immune disregulation resulting from a Wuhan infection. How is it so difficult to grok that a 'look-alike' may well trigger a similar reaction?

Are the unwitting lab rats being given full and proper notice as to what could occur?
There is no evidence that the vaccine is causing it. In fact, the number of blood clots seen in vaccine recipients was no higher than the rate among people who had not received the shot in Europe. So you have the same risk of clotting as you do just walking around.

They have paused use until they investigate further, which is good. That is how it should work.
 

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Hello; I intended to go over the percentages of survival from covid19 infections. I could find CDC data some weeks ago but do not find it now. In a past post I used the wording that survival overall was in the high 90% range. I do think the number was at or close to over 99% but cannot recall the exact number so used high 90%.
I also think the more at risk group of us older folks had a near 95% survival rate.

I do not know if I am not searching the CDC information site properly or if that information is no longer being reported. If it is no longer being reported I am curious as to why. The information seemed to be a very positive in the midst of the pandemic.
Numbers aside, Google "Covid sequelae" and get back to me. Sure, the vast majority survive, but there are serious problems for some that do.
 

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No other time in history have we crippled healthy people and destroyed our economy.
Civil War, Any World World, Great Depression etc. disagree.

We are voting ourselves money that doesn't exist. Who is going to pay for it?
You mean there was a time when good ol USA wasn't in debt? Let's see, it has continuously had a fluctuating public debt since its Constitution went into effect on March 4, 1789. So no, your kids or grandkids will not pay for it either.

So who the hell is being selfish and ugly? 90% of this money is not even going to us. It is going to leftist special interests.
And where did Trump's previous two stimulus payments go?

I find it quite fascinating that the ones that run the country/world have the majority brainwashed and pinned against left vs. right. There's no right or left, it's an enigma created to feed you hate and bigotry while they run to the bank. It's not a you vs. me issue, it's like 20 people vs. the rest of us. Smoke and mirrors.
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