Covid Shots

[K4fxd]

I actually wish I'd get it, then I wouldn't need the vaccine. I'd be naturally vaccinated, like chicken pox.

If you say getting it won't stop you from getting it again then the vaccine won't work either.

Follow the science.

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[pyrophilus]

Got my 1st vaccine two weeks ago. I go for my second next week. I had the Pfizer, I also had sore arm like rest, but my throat swelled up making it uncomfortable (didn't report it as I didnt want to be taken to a hospital) during the 15min observation period. I was going to drive back to work but then started to feel bad. Went home. Had really bad runny nose for about 3 hours. The rest of the weekend I just felt the day after I built a house. Just sore everywhere. This past week, any small cuts on my hand would swell red and look infected for a day and them everything is fine.

I am finally getting over it, just in time for my second one. My wife also got the vaccine on the same day (both of us for work), and while she was fine and went to work, she had same symptoms as me, but 24 hours behind.

 

[pyrophilus]

I am in the military. I am training into a new specialty in a few months and those of us doing so are required to be vaccinated beforehand. We are also going to be locked down to the training location for the 6 months of training (unless things change).

Thank you for your service

 

[shogun32]

However, the sh*t will hit the fan if I find out it was one of those stubborn gits that infected someone I care about.

and if someone who was inoculated but didn't yet have their second dose, or 10+ days hadn't passed after their 2nd shot? or took a Vax that evidence shows is barely 50% effective after the requisite 2 doses and total 30 day waiting time? You've been sold a pile of steaming Horse-hockey that the various Vax are remotely effective as claimed. Vaccines are not "contact killers" like bleach that "kill 99% of germs". Even bleach can't hit 100% - something always gets through.

You can shed active virus out your ass (literally) but not be sick internally. That's how it's spread. Hell, we've got non-USA heads of state saying one vax or another doesn't work worth crap.

 

[shogun32]

I actually wish I'd get it, then I wouldn't need the vaccine.

there is no vax for colds which is a family of Corona-virus. One because the bugger mutates so damn much and because we've never succeeded at creating a vax for any coronovirus. So magically we've solved a 40+ year problem in 6 months for the first time in human history, and in a manner (mRNA) never before attempted at scale? If so, BRAVO but I'm gonna need to see some actual evidence before I just take FouXi's word for it.

Go get a antibody/serologic test. They're about $35 if you can find a place where it's offered. The CDC is dicking around with it instead of making sure it widely available.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/serology-testing.html

 

[sigintel]

I actually wish I'd get it, then I wouldn't need the vaccine. I'd be naturally vaccinated, like chicken pox.
If you say getting it won't stop you from getting it again then the vaccine won't work either.
Follow the science.

The vaccine doesnt stop you from contracting Covid. It simply primes the immune system to limit the damage. After you get the vaccine you can and likely will still get the virus and it will start multiplying in your body, however, your immune system gets the equivalent of an 8 week head start.

There have been several 20-40 something physically fit doctors, cyclists, an attorney, and likely others that experience neurological damage that didnt get better over several months and could not cope with the sudden lose of mental stability and careers. If productive young people are taking their own lives, thats prolly a good indication you dont want to play with some batshit crazy RNA that crosses the blood brain barrier.

If you puffin tough izzAy triffa gonna go mop floors night shift as a career, prolly doesn’t matter?

A friend of mine that is a retired special forces drill instructor nearly died of a heart attack and myocarditis. He was in immaculate physical and mental condition.

Active duty military suicides are up 31.37% past 12 months. Even though the number of deaths for physically fit military is way lower compared to civilian, the stress of long term mental and physical damage is particularly difficult to overcome.

 

[K4fxd]

If antibodies from getting the disease and getting over it are not good enough to keep you from getting it again, then any anti bodies developed from a vaccine are just as ineffective. You can't have it both ways.

So if getting it only gives you immunity for 6 months the vaccine will only protect you for 6 months.

 

[shogun32]

Active duty military suicides are up 31.37% past 12 months.

eek. I really want to see the data for 2020 but I suspect we won't know for a good while yet.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm

 

[shogun32]

After you get the vaccine you can and likely will still get the virus and it will start multiplying in your body, however, your immune system gets the equivalent of an 8 week head start.

The virus is everywhere. Unless you're on an island and nothing comes in.

Your body has ~3 days to squash the viral assault before it loses the battle and you suffer a variety of shitty outcomes and severities. That's why the practice of "come back in 3 days if your symptoms get worse" was tantamount to a death/harm sentence. By then the body is overwhelmed and the chance of bring you back from the brink of defeat gets too damn small. That is WHY effective treatments require IMMEDIATE application of HCQ, Ivermectin, (or if your local healthcare system is dictated by politicians practicing medicine without a license) other compounds that hinder viral replication and also suppress the body's OVER-reaction to the invader and doing nasty things like generating clotting strands in response to inflammation which clogs the vital blood vessels in the lungs. Shoving ever more concentrated O2 into lungs at ever higher pressures does NOTHING to fix the actual problem. QED if you end up on a vent, you're basically already dead.

But yet there are quite a few cases where people have come back from death's door at the last moment when they were FINALLY treated with HCQ and anti-inflammatory which took a bite out of the virus and stopped the body from trying to kill itself.

The auto-immune reaction gone wild (no, there is no late-night DVD you can buy) is very similar to what killed millions in the second pass of the 1918 flu.

Somewhere around half the population was already immune (body knew how to recognize and quash the virus) to Wuhan-19 from the get-go. We still don't know which virus these people had already come into contact with and were thus pre-armed for victory. Was is SARS-1? The HongKong flu from a decade ago?

The CDC et. al. already admitted months ago that anywhere from 6-20x of the "known infected" (not that 'cases' bullshit harped on the evening news based on fraudulent PCR testing) have been exposed and never counted because there was little/no reaction and thus no reporting.

The CDC has refused to do broad serologic testing. Apparently they don't WANT to know what the gen-pop resistance looks like. Because if they did, the fear porn would be laughed out of the room immediately.

All the hysteria about vax is predicated on the known fraudulent assertion that 100% of the world pop is susceptible to the virus and all are significantly likely to have a severe or worse outcome. FouXi and Birks damn well know that's not true. FouXi is no saint. He LIED about AIDS susceptibility in gen-pop straight sex back in the 80's and would not permit doctors to use a very cheap and plentiful drug in an off-label use to treat a frequent occurrence of a particular pneumonia that AIDS patients were contracting. His deliberate action cost thousands of gay men their lives needlessly.

 

[Super-Genius]

The CDC has refused to do broad serologic testing. Apparently they don't WANT to know what the gen-pop resistance looks like. Because if they did, the fear porn would be laughed out of the room immediately.

I'm curious ... in your opinion, what is the motive for creating "fear porn" ?

 

[Burkey]

The virus is everywhere. Unless you're on an island and nothing comes in.

Your body has ~3 days to squash the viral assault before it loses the battle and you suffer a variety of shitty outcomes and severities. That's why the practice of "come back in 3 days if your symptoms get worse" was tantamount to a death/harm sentence. By then the body is overwhelmed and the chance of bring you back from the brink of defeat gets too damn small. That is WHY effective treatments require IMMEDIATE application of HCQ, Ivermectin, (or if your local healthcare system is dictated by politicians practicing medicine without a license) other compounds that hinder viral replication and also suppress the body's OVER-reaction to the invader and doing nasty things like generating clotting strands in response to inflammation which clogs the vital blood vessels in the lungs. Shoving ever more concentrated O2 into lungs at ever higher pressures does NOTHING to fix the actual problem. QED if you end up on a vent, you're basically already dead.

But yet there are quite a few cases where people have come back from death's door at the last moment when they were FINALLY treated with HCQ and anti-inflammatory which took a bite out of the virus and stopped the body from trying to kill itself.

The auto-immune reaction gone wild (no, there is no late-night DVD you can buy) is very similar to what killed millions in the second pass of the 1918 flu.

Somewhere around half the population was already immune (body knew how to recognize and quash the virus) to Wuhan-19 from the get-go. We still don't know which virus these people had already come into contact with and were thus pre-armed for victory. Was is SARS-1? The HongKong flu from a decade ago?

The CDC et. al. already admitted months ago that anywhere from 6-20x of the "known infected" (not that 'cases' bullshit harped on the evening news based on fraudulent PCR testing) have been exposed and never counted because there was little/no reaction and thus no reporting.

The CDC has refused to do broad serologic testing. Apparently they don't WANT to know what the gen-pop resistance looks like. Because if they did, the fear porn would be laughed out of the room immediately.

All the hysteria about vax is predicated on the known fraudulent assertion that 100% of the world pop is susceptible to the virus and all are significantly likely to have a severe or worse outcome. FouXi and Birks damn well know that's not true. FouXi is no saint. He LIED about AIDS susceptibility in gen-pop straight sex back in the 80's and would not permit doctors to use a very cheap and plentiful drug in an off-label use to treat a frequent occurrence of a particular pneumonia that AIDS patients were contracting. His deliberate action cost thousands of gay men their lives needlessly.

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[RPDBlueMoon]

So you are from the cancel culture, the only opinions you want to hear are one's you agree with. Everyone else needs to shut up, huh?

Sorry I put on my Countries uniform to defend the right to have an opposite opinion, and be able to express it.

This is a discussion forum.

Did you read the post I was replying too? Lol you are only further reiterating the point.

Now you are on the topic of cancel culture and free speech? That is a strong and wrong interpretation of my opinion. You are loosely using it to forcefully align it with those reasons to make a strawman fallacy.

Think about this. You are talking about your first amendment rights and why you joined the military in a discussion forum from a thread about asking who is getting vaccinated lol

And you say Im the one who is pretty thin skinned and drinks Kool Aide

It's entertaining though, you are like the third person to get triggered and loose your cool which is why its entertaining. I don't like to see people make a fool of themselves and see threads get locked from it.

If you joined the military to defend the right of trolling then go right ahead
Sorry, I'm not that heroic like you, I went in for other reasons.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

I'm still trying to figure out where you proved me wrong. The irony with you telling anyone to not follow people's opinions when you're just blindly regurgitating stuff you hear on the news. Not trying to insult anyone, I respect the forum know it all. Carry on

Understands everything about COVID yet can't comprehend the concept of an internet forum. Fucking genius LMAO

The irony is that for someone who places such a strong emphasis on opinions, more here agree with me than your so called opinions from "experts." Using your metrics, I already proved you wrong


We can use my method if you want. Do you want me to show when the flu occurs every year?

I completely understand the concept. You just like to derail the thread and get butthurt when you are proven wrong. This happens all the time in threads, as you can tell by just reading the stark contrast between some of the other posts and your posts.

It isn't hard to find assholes on forums. They are easily spotted by the steady flow of excrement that always gets released, just like the real ones

 

[Interceptor]

Typical discussions, I'm right your wrong, your wrong I'm right. This is true, thats not true, you're a idiot.
It just proves one thing to me.

No one knows the real truth, agendas, power, money have muddled the waters until there is no known truth.

I have notice lately that people are posting with no filters, not only in this thread but others. They respond to threads with second grade degrading remarks about another members intelligence level.

Sure it is a discussion, but at some point it becomes useless.

 

[shogun32]

what is the motive for creating "fear porn" ?

you haven't noticed the profound power to herd the masses into doing your will? "we need to kill ICE" results in "nobody move".

We need to crush the middle-class yields "nobody go to restaurants" and "nobody go to small stores - only goliath big-box are allowed to open their doors".

We need to break the bonds of society and between traditional familiar bonds yields "wear masks, social distance and don't dare visit Grandma or you're gonna kill her".

We (medical apperachics) abrogate to themselves the power to (re)shape society - we use mind-boggling fraudulent 'models' to scare gov't into do what we say.

We (medical apparatchiks primarily in USA) want to make money hand over fist with "a cure" so we'll use the power of social media and gov't to mock, attack, disappear'nic and declare illegal treatments that cost pennies and have been around for 70 years with flawless safety records.


It's noting but pure evil from top to bottom.

That's how I see it. Feel free not to.

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