Covid Shots

[RPDBlueMoon]

" Average expected " is just made up BS. Look at actuals. The actuals fit well within range of the last 4 years which you see in the background. What is curious is the surprising number of Alzheimers' who croaked in 2020.

They don't though. The total deaths from COVID in 2020 in the US is 351,031 (this number will only go up because death certificates need to be certified and there is a backlog)

The total number of deaths for 2020 so far is 3,290,869.

2019 was 2,854,838

2018 was 2,839,205

2017 was 2,813,503

2016 was 2,744,248

The deaths of 2020 were not within the normal range of the last 4 years.

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[GP2017GT]

agreed.

appreciate it!




i will say, the hospital on base has been PACKED. only "essential workers" have been getting priority until recently, and each time they are distributing the vaccines there are 3 lines wrapped around the hospital.

If I was in the FBI or CIA like you I would not take the vaccine either. There might be a tracking chip in it. You never know right?

 

[GP2017GT]

what on earth are you even talking about...

you are the one that came in arguing with my statement, stating something that i ALREADY SAID, and i corrected you. you then responded with something that didnt have anything to do with what i even said. im so confused. I never asked you for a story, relax. i couldnt care less if you are for or against vaccines. It was an observation based on your confusing responses to me

 

[GP2017GT]

The test has changed and is being evaluated; however, tests are still being administered but no negative consequences should you fail. With that in mind, the new test exhibited an extremely high failure rate from past "studs" if you know what I mean. Oh and PT is still being conducted.

Is the new PT test gender neutral where you can do push-ups on your knees?

 

[shogun32]

The total deaths from COVID in 2020 in the US is 351,031 (this number will only go up because death certificates need to be certified and there is a backlog)

that data series is so contaminated with falsity it's useless. The reporting for dying WITH and dying FROM is filthy. Hell, there's plenty of reports the morgue/hospital didn't even bother to confirm at time of death if Covid was actually involved. And we all know the stories about behedded motorcyclists being chalked up to China/Wuhan virus

(yes, I'm deliberately flouting Xiden's EO prohibiting people from referring to Covid as the China virus. He may suck Chinese d*ck for 1.5 billion dollars, but I didn't get my cut.)

The CDC/NIH has made a deliberate point to confound the data series. Incompetent or malicious? You can decide. And when PCR tests are conducted fraudulently (CT=25 is 70% false positive and all US labs are doing CT=40 per the MORONS at the FDA which is something like 98% false positive) even if the hospital was being diligent the records would still be wrong. This is classic garbage IN garbage OUT.

The total number of deaths for 2020 so far is 3,290,869.

If you look at graph #12 the huge increase is in cardio and Alzheimer. Practically nothing in Raspatory. Dare we admit the panic'd response to a non-important disease directly lead to the deaths (murder?) of many thousands who desperately needed to be treated for serious non-Wuhan ailments? For all the "follow the science" it sure looks like medieval superstition to me. The big hospital ship, the Jarvis(?) Center with a few thousand beds. All entirely UNUSED! There should have been people lining the sidewalks for blocks dying of Wuhan in NYC alone. Except there weren't. Gov Cuomo just made sure to murder grandpa/ma in their retirement homes instead. And now NY admits they may have undercounted Wuhan deaths by as much as 50%. Hugo Chavez would be proud of those numbers.

A goodly handful of states smelled FouXi's bullshit a mile away and didn't shut down, didn't destroy their mom and pop businesses, restaurants, or general economies. And oddly enough the cadavers are not piled to the heavens. They actually have LOWER per 100,000 of death. UN-possible you say? And for all the mask wearing, the infection continued to spread unopposed. Look at the time-series data. There's no useful difference between mask or no mask.

 

[K4fxd]

Hank Aaron was healthy, got the shot and 2 weeks later, dead.

So hell no.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

If I was in the FBI or CIA like you I would not take the vaccine either. There might be a tracking chip in it. You never know right?

If you are going into the FBI or CIA, they already have a tracking chip in you

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

that data series is so contaminated with falsity it's useless. The reporting for dying WITH and dying FROM is filthy. Hell, there's plenty of reports the morgue/hospital didn't even bother to confirm at time of death if Covid was actually involved. And we all know the stories about behedded motorcyclists being chalked up to China/Wuhan virus

(yes, I'm deliberately flouting Xiden's EO prohibiting people from referring to Covid as the China virus. He may suck Chinese d*ck for 1.5 billion dollars, but I didn't get my cut.)

The CDC/NIH has made a deliberate point to confound the data series. Incompetent or malicious? You can decide. And when PCR tests are conducted fraudulently (CT=25 is 70% false positive and all US labs are doing CT=40 per the MORONS at the FDA which is something like 98% false positive) even if the hospital was being diligent the records would still be wrong. This is classic garbage IN garbage OUT.


If you look at graph #12 the huge increase is in cardio and Alzheimer. Practically nothing in Raspatory. Dare we admit the panic'd response to a non-important disease directly lead to the deaths (murder?) of many thousands who desperately needed to be treated for serious non-Wuhan ailments? For all the "follow the science" it sure looks like medieval superstition to me. The big hospital ship, the Jarvis(?) Center with a few thousand beds. All entirely UNUSED! There should have been people lining the sidewalks for blocks dying of Wuhan in NYC alone. Except there weren't. Gov Cuomo just made sure to murder grandpa/ma in their retirement homes instead. And now NY admits they may have undercounted Wuhan deaths by as much as 50%. Hugo Chavez would be proud of those numbers.

A goodly handful of states smelled FouXi's bullshit a mile away and didn't shut down, didn't destroy their mom and pop businesses, restaurants, or general economies. And oddly enough the cadavers are not piled to the heavens. They actually have LOWER per 100,000 of death. UN-possible you say? And for all the mask wearing, the infection continued to spread unopposed. Look at the time-series data. There's no useful difference between mask or no mask.

Okay wait, so you are saying now that the deaths were actually being overreported? It is well known that the deaths were underreported. The CDC explicitly states this on their website and on the graph it tells you that only 60% of the death records are summitted within 10 days of death and that the completeness varies by the jurisdiction (states). Where are you getting this data? It seems like you are just pulling it our of you ass.

You say that there is a huge increase in cardio and Alzheimer deaths. Alzheimer patients are disproportionally affected by COVID for many reasons. More than 50% of Alzheimer's disease patients are living in Nursing homes or assisted living. COVID affects the cardiovascular and respiratory system. Cardiovascular disease is a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease. COVID affects the cardio system in a similar way the flu virus does, which leads to atherosclerosis (buildup of plaque in arteries). When you have the flu you are at an increased risk for a heart attack. I haven't even mentioned the mental impact that COVID has on Alzheimer patients, which makes the disease get worse. African-Americans which have the highest rates of cardiovascular disease are also disproportionately dying more from COIVD.

Hmm I wonder why so many people died from Alzheimer's disease and cardiovascular disease last year? Its almost like there was a new mysterious new illness that hit the US that year. I wonder what it could be???

The COVID-19 number that I gave 351,031 (found here https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm) came from the medical hospitals reporting that the patient died from COVID complications. Are you telling me that you are smarter than Emergency Physicians and Pathologists?

You are seriously debating the accuracy of the data when hospitals are overflowing and understaffed? What job did you do in the military? It seems like you've never experienced the phenomena called the 'fog of war'.

I still haven't seen anything factual that you've stated.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

Hank Aaron was healthy, got the shot and 2 weeks later, dead.

So hell no.

The shot requires two doses to "work as intended". You are not fully protected when you get the first shot. You need the second dose for it to be effective, and it's only effective when everybody else gets it.

There still is a chance of you getting the polio virus if you have been vaccinated and travel to a country that is rampant with polio.

 

[fastergt350]

Okay wait, so you are saying now that the deaths were actually being overreported? It is well known that the deaths were underreported. The CDC explicitly states this on their website and on the graph it tells you that only 60% of the death records are summitted within 10 days of death and that the completeness varies by the jurisdiction (states). Where are you getting this data? It seems like you are just pulling it our of you ass.

You say that there is a huge increase in cardio and Alzheimer deaths. Alzheimer patients are disproportionally affected by COVID for many reasons. More than 50% of Alzheimer's disease patients are living in Nursing homes or assisted living. COVID affects the cardiovascular and respiratory system. Cardiovascular disease is a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease. COVID affects the cardio system in a similar way the flu virus does, which leads to atherosclerosis (buildup of plaque in arteries). When you have the flu you are at an increased risk for a heart attack. I haven't even mentioned the mental impact that COVID has on Alzheimer patients. African-Americans which have the highest rates of cardiovascular disease are also disproportionately dying more from COIVD.

Hmm I wonder why so many people died from Alzheimer's disease and cardiovascular disease last year? Its almost like there was a new mysterious new illness that hit the US that year. I wonder what it could be???

The COVID-19 number that I gave 351,031 (found here https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm) came from the medical hospitals reporting that the patient died from COVID complications. Are you telling me that you are smarter than Emergency Physicians and Pathologists?

You are seriously debating the accuracy of the data when hospitals are overflowing and understaffed? What job did you do in the military? It seems like you've never experienced the phenomena called the 'fog of war'.

I still haven't seen anything factual that you've stated.

I totally agree with you, the easiest accurate measurement is the Obituary Section of the Sunday News Paper. I live near Buffalo NY, last weeks notices compared to a year ago, to all the doubters count the fucking numbers from January 24 2020 of last year to January 24 2021 this year, there is quite an increase. I have to listen to these assholes that I work with say it is all fake, well wait until someone that you know dies from Covid, maybe that will wake your dumb asses up. I am a Veteran, I am getting my shot this Saturday, and I don't care to hear your conspiracy theories.

 

[Dtmlloyd]

Look at how many people have died from the flu and pneumonia before COVID? Now look at those same number this last year way down? What happen did those people just get healed? Lots of people already had problems that would kill them in do time COVID just speed it up BUT wasn’t what killed them! Without the other problems that they already had their body would have been able to fight it off.

 

[Adamone92]

If I was in the FBI or CIA like you I would not take the vaccine either. There might be a tracking chip in it. You never know right?

i tend to not live my life in paranoia as some do. If someone wanted to put a tracker in me, it probably would have (or did) happen a long time ago.

its not like those agencies need to use a tracking chip anyways.

 

[fastergt350]

Look at how many people have died from the flu and pneumonia before COVID? Now look at those same number this last year way down? What happen did those people just get healed? Lots of people already had problems that would kill them in do time COVID just speed it up BUT wasn’t what killed them! Without the other problems that they already had their body would have been able to fight it off.

One of the Main reasons that the Flu isn't so prevalent this year is people are masking up which slows the spread, and that is a fact.

 

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[Adamone92]

Okay wait, so you are saying now that the deaths were actually being overreported? It is well known that the deaths were underreported. The CDC explicitly states this on their website and on the graph it tells you that only 60% of the death records are summitted within 10 days of death and that the completeness varies by the jurisdiction (states). Where are you getting this data? It seems like you are just pulling it our of you ass.

You say that there is a huge increase in cardio and Alzheimer deaths. Alzheimer patients are disproportionally affected by COVID for many reasons. More than 50% of Alzheimer's disease patients are living in Nursing homes or assisted living. COVID affects the cardiovascular and respiratory system. Cardiovascular disease is a risk factor for Alzheimer's disease. COVID affects the cardio system in a similar way the flu virus does, which leads to atherosclerosis (buildup of plaque in arteries). When you have the flu you are at an increased risk for a heart attack. I haven't even mentioned the mental impact that COVID has on Alzheimer patients, which makes the disease get worse. African-Americans which have the highest rates of cardiovascular disease are also disproportionately dying more from COIVD.

Hmm I wonder why so many people died from Alzheimer's disease and cardiovascular disease last year? Its almost like there was a new mysterious new illness that hit the US that year. I wonder what it could be???

The COVID-19 number that I gave 351,031 (found here https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm) came from the medical hospitals reporting that the patient died from COVID complications. Are you telling me that you are smarter than Emergency Physicians and Pathologists?

You are seriously debating the accuracy of the data when hospitals are overflowing and understaffed? What job did you do in the military? It seems like you've never experienced the phenomena called the 'fog of war'.

I still haven't seen anything factual that you've stated.

i agree...i look at it this way.

in my quick logic there are two options..

either:

A) Its real, and not some huge hidden agenda behind COVID. Meaning the ~400,000 more deaths in 2020 vs the past 4 years were related to COVID...(which to me is the much more logical answer). 400k more deaths out of nowhere coincidentally during a worldwide pandemic? not hard to connect the dots there

or B) Its a huge conspiracy and the government is out to get to get us for $$ and population control. They also got hospitals to lie about their reports of COVID related deaths and chalk up every random death to being COVID.

B doesnt make any sense to me, even from a wild stretch of the imagination. I believe it MAY be closer to a middle ground, where some of the deaths were falsely reported, but saying such a large portion of them are fake is almost insulting to the families who lost their loved ones.

maybe im just being naive. who knows. I just dont try to claim to know more than the experts on these matters

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