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[96MUSTANG06]

Was this tuned remotely?

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[BMR Tech]

Looks right where it should be based on your mods. I'm sure it could make a touch more. It'll gain 15ish after 5k miles.

 

[Notagain]

I highly highly doubt a CJ mani with a twin 65mm TB is going to be a limiting factor here.

 

[thatonenozz]

Yes, so you want a deep breathing engine. It needs as much air as it can get at 7,000rpms.

I would look at intake, or even intake temps. Also, larger engine, what radiator..?

Agreed. Just wondering why it’s not getting it. Mishimoto radiator and O/A oil cooler. No issues with heat at all on the track.

Was this tuned remotely?

Remotely tuned by Lund on a local shop’s dyno.

 

[thatonenozz]

Looks right where it should be based on your mods. I'm sure it could make a touch more. It'll gain 15ish after 5k miles.

Dang really? This guy made something like 525 on stock bottom end and heads. Inflated numbers or did I do something wrong?

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81848&highlight=500whp

Trying not to get caught up on dyno numbers but damn! The time and money I put into this motor for 2whp has me feeling like a retard lol oh well it’s fun. I’m enjoying the hell out of both extra horsepower

 

[96MUSTANG06]

Find a really good tuner in CA/NV and have it dyno tuned on site. That's the only way this setup will reach its full potential. Im on a Lund tune fyi and believe in them, but when Im done adding/exchanging engine components Im taking it to be on site dyno tuned.

 

[Notagain]

AED Tuning Shingle Springs CA

Ohh and AED has CJ tunes pretty much nailed down hes done tons and tons of CJ setups and research.

 

[Jayme]

AED Tuning Shingle Springs CA

Ohh and AED has CJ tunes pretty much nailed down hes done tons and tons of CJ setups and research.

This.

 

[thatonenozz]

Shaun could definitely be an option since he’s not too terribly far from me.

But I talked to JPC today since they have a couple 600whp N/A builds to see why I’m coming up so short with a seemingly similar setup. They pointed out I shoulda focused on weight savings with the rod/piston setup so definitely some HP left on the table there. One thing that really interested me though was their recommendation to run a more aggressive cam, namely theirs, with VCT lockouts. Wanted to get some other thoughts on this?

They said the RGR lockouts save about 7lbs off the rotating assembly. Is this significant enough to be worth? I hate to tear apart a new setup, but I also hate being disappointed. I don’t really care about bottom end power at all, which is the main argument I’ve heard against lockouts. Midrange to top end is all that matters to me. 4500+ is the only rpm range this car sees.

 

[Anthony 05 GT]

I don't know who you talked to at JPC, but Justin Burcham (owner) and Kevin MacDonald (tuner) really know their shit at JPC. They have tuned my blown/stroked '05 repeatedly over the years as I changed my set up and they are friends of mine.

On the cam subject, what kind of lift do their cams provide? In my opinion, lockouts and high lift cams will get the flow you need providing the lift is up to par. Any incremental increase in lift is not going to net any substantial power increase, but cams with a decent bump in lift will get things flowing for you. Any info on the lift?

 

[thatonenozz]

I don't know who you talked to at JPC, but Justin Burcham (owner) and Kevin MacDonald (tuner) really know their shit at JPC. They have tuned my blown/stroked '05 repeatedly over the years as I changed my set up and they are friends of mine.

On the cam subject, what kind of lift do their cams provide? In my opinion, lockouts and high lift cams will get the flow you need providing the lift is up to par. Any incremental increase in lift is not going to net any substantial power increase, but cams with a decent bump in lift will get things flowing for you. Any info on the lift?

I spoke with Aaron at JPC who I believe is their engine builder. He seemed to really know a lot. Unfortunately they’re one of the companies that does the “custom” grind cams and they won’t disclose the specs until after you buy them. But they do have some near 600whp N/A coyotes running those same cams so maybe they can’t be too bad?

 

[Saywhen]

Dang really? This guy made something like 525 on stock bottom end and heads. Inflated numbers or did I do something wrong?

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81848&highlight=500whp

Evils numbers aren't inflated...I made damn near the same with the same setup. Evil 5.0 went on to make over 900 rwhp on stock bottom end with a whipple and
the comp stage 3 cams. Your number do seem a little weak to me

 

[Saywhen]

Well pretty much the same setup. I ran different headers and catback at the time

 

[Notagain]

That whole you cant get the specs until after you buy is a load of bullshit.

Sounds like Nancy Pelosi you cant know whats in the Obamacare bill until after its passed. LOL!!

 

[Anthony 05 GT]

I spoke with Aaron at JPC who I believe is their engine builder. He seemed to really know a lot. Unfortunately they’re one of the companies that does the “custom” grind cams and they won’t disclose the specs until after you buy them. But they do have some near 600whp N/A coyotes running those same cams so maybe they can’t be too bad?

I know Aaron, but not that well. Seems like he knows his shit. I'll see what I can find out and PM you.

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