Base VS Premium in a GT

[Hockeypucks]

I was back and forth but I ended up ordering a base, I just did not see the value in the 5.6k markup of the premium with upgraded stereo. I wanted cloth or suede recaros, leather is too slippery imo. I did not want the power memory sears or any of that. My last 3 cars had it and I never touched it. The recaros I love, really brings a sporty feel and style to the interior that I was looking for. I can see where some may not like em but for me it was a must have. I may get the recaros covered in suede if I can find something that looks like the gt350 seats. I sat in both and the only thing I really l Iiked about the premium was the larger touch screen absent the calculator design of the base, and the toggle switches. I may switch out the head unit and speakers as soon as a suitable aftermarket unit is ready. Even the base was nicer than my recently departed 2007 bmw 335i and had more features. I will say bmw fit and finish is better though but that's why they cost a lot more. What sold me on the base was the lighter weight, loads more I can dump into putting a proper set of wheels / tires, exhaust, and springs. I will have regrets either which way I went because of the screwy way Ford chose the packaging.

Almost word for word how I feel. I thought I was the only one.

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[kn7671]

i drive these summers daily in this 20 degree weather

Grip below 40F is not the only problem on summer tires, but below 40F summer compound tires can crack.

I am surprised at how dismissive some people can be when not armed with facts about driving summer compound tires in the cold. The summer compound tire of today is not the same as 5-10 years ago, and could have problems starting at temps below 45F on average. Ford has stickers stating this, and other manufacturers, such as GM, had to issue TSB's to address the problem. Don't fool yourself into thinking that just because your not below the freezing point of water (32F), that rubber can't crack at temps above freezing...

Read for yourself, below:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=220
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/03/performance-tires-crack-winter-cracking/index.htm

http://www.pirelli.com/asset/index.php?idelement=8330
** section 3: Rubber compounds formulated for ultra-high performance summer tires can lose flexibility and may develop random surface cracks at
temperatures below 45° F

 

[thehunterooo]

Yea it seems like people don't understand that you can just go on the ford website and build these cars and see exactly what they have. Just open two windows and compare if you have to

If you use just the website it will not tell you a lot of things, like the differences in the diffusers or the toggle switches, etc, the actual order site just covers the main things. Now if you look closely at the pictures you can see them, I actually had no idea that the base did not have the toggle switches when I ordered mine.

 

[gsxr1300]

with the summer tires you wont be able to stop like you should in an emergency situation.

 

[kz]

Climate control in premium was one thing that took Base completely off the table for me.

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[EcoSwag1990]

If you use just the website it will not tell you a lot of things, like the differences in the diffusers or the toggle switches, etc, the actual order site just covers the main things. Now if you look closely at the pictures you can see them, I actually had no idea that the base did not have the toggle switches when I ordered mine.

It tells you both of those and more if you simply expand the list of standard features. Different diffuser was obvious to me on the site since its basically the only exterior difference

 

[BmacIL]

i drive these summers daily in this 20 degree weather

So irresponsible. I really don't care what you do, but driving with summer tires (particularly these pirellis which are known to be bad in the cold) is reckless. If you have to panic stop in 20 degree weather your stopping distance is much worse than even an all season, much less a winter tire (which your high performance RWD car should be on in a location where it snows regularly in winter). I hate it how so many people show no thought of other people on the road, be it driving mindlessly in the left lane or failing to maintain their vehicle or be on the proper tires.

 

[Swoope]

So irresponsible. I really don't care what you do, but driving with summer tires (particularly these pirellis which are known to be bad in the cold) is reckless. If you have to panic stop in 20 degree weather your stopping distance is much worse than even an all season, much less a winter tire (which your high performance RWD car should be on in a location where it snows regularly in winter). I hate it how so many people show no thought of other people on the road, be it driving mindlessly in the left lane or failing to maintain their vehicle or be on the proper tires.

so if you are driving on all season tires during the summer you are being irresponsible because summer tires will stop shorter that all seasons?

stop blaming the instrument, if you are not in control of your environment you are at fault!

oh, wait. it is never your fault i bet..

beers

 

[BmacIL]

Of course not. In that case, all seasons are being driven on in the temperature range that they perform safely.

Of course it's the driver's fault if an accident occurs while on the wrong tires for the conditions. It is up to him/her to control it, but let's face it, very few people on here are professional drivers or anything near it, and even those professionals wouldn't choose to drive a car like this (high power, RWD) on summers in sub freezing weather. The "I do what I want and F what everyone else thinks" attitude is annoying to me, but fine as long as you're not putting others in a situation they chose to not be in. The situation I highlighted (panic stop) wouldn't be different if he was a professional or not, the tires lack substantial grip in cold weather and you're potentially endangering other people by continuing to drive on them. They are not supposed to be driven on in consistent freezing or sub-freezing conditions.

 

[cush]

Premiums get also..:

Sat Radio
Available 19" and 20" options
Available 50th Appearance Pack
Pony Projector Lights
Ambient Lighting
Heated and cooled seats (not just leather)
Available 401A Premium Trim (has kicker sub etc)
Contrasting rear diffuser
Available *leather* Recaro seats
Oh and about 125lbs weight difference.

If you want any more than that it's option time.... The best option would be the performance pack, everything else is just fluff!

 

[Swoope]

Of course not. In that case, all seasons are being driven on in the temperature range that they perform safely.

Of course it's the driver's fault if an accident occurs while on the wrong tires for the conditions. It is up to him/her to control it, but let's face it, very few people on here are professional drivers or anything near it, and even those professionals wouldn't choose to drive a car like this (high power, RWD) on summers in sub freezing weather. The "I do what I want and F what everyone else thinks" attitude is annoying to me, but fine as long as you're not putting others in a situation they chose to not be in. The situation I highlighted (panic stop) wouldn't be different if he was a professional or not, the tires lack substantial grip in cold weather and you're potentially endangering other people by continuing to drive on them. They are not supposed to be driven on in consistent freezing or sub-freezing conditions.

nope,

it is black or white. as you propose you must drive on a tire that offers the maximum performance for the given moment.. professional driver has nothing to do with your scenario. abs and the tires will control the outcome.

safely cannot be guaranteed.

it like a little pregnant. you cant have it both ways..

beers

 

[BmacIL]

Exactly. ABS and tires. ABS is only as good as the tire allows.

 

[Asharus]

lol i knew the tire police would chime in on this

 

[jaja6009]

So I was reckless everytime I drove my 05 Stang on Goodyear F1 tires in the winter? Sorry, but I dont agree with your opinion.
Was I driving on the best tires? No. But I was not reckless.
So if there are better brakes available for my car and I dont buy them and now have reduced stopping power than I could have, I am now reckless?
I think reckless is way too strong of a word here. And I highly doubt and accident would come back to - the driver has summer tires on his car, give him a reckless driving ticket.

 

[BmacIL]

Agree to disagree about how our 1.5 ton road missiles should be equipped.

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