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If Best Buy sells Sony Xbr tvs and Walmart doesn't and you only want Xbr then you never go to Walmart but that doesn't mean the xbr is getting compared against the tv Walmart does sell, because the same choice exists for others in the opposite direction.
I'm not sure if that's a proper comparison. The lack of xbr by Walmart doesn't reflect a lack of something by Lund. Lund's flex covers the E85 (or xbr in your example) that Bama does but it also does more.
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I'm not sure if that's a proper comparison. The lack of xbr by Walmart doesn't reflect a lack of something by Lund. Lund's flex covers the E85 (or xbr in your example) that Bama does but it also does more.
Well, you get the picture. pun intended.
 

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Bottom line the way I see it is the OP car runs strong with the BAMA tune. If drivability is great and the logs look safe then there's no reason to switch tuners.

That being said, Lund is one of the top tuners in the industry and has tremendous experience with the coyote engines and platforms. Also, they have put in the time to create awesome 6R80 trans tuning and drivability as well, which all of us that daily drive our cars can appreciate. They are not all about 1/4 mile performance as with my first Lund tune Jon II worked with me to customize the part throttle shift patterns the way I wanted them. Every question I asked was answered with great technical detail and overall customer service and turn-around time reviewing logs and receiving revisions was beyond impressive. Top that all off with countless very fast customer cars and numerous records, it's hard for them to not be at the top of the list when deciding on which tuner to go with.

I'm not at all saying there aren't other top quality tuners out there, for sure there are. I'm just saying anyone who chooses Lund is in great hands. It's not hype or marketing, it's fact.
 

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Bottom line the way I see it is the OP car runs strong with the BAMA tune. If drivability is great and the logs look safe then there's no reason to switch tuners.

That being said, Lund is one of the top tuners in the industry and has tremendous experience with the coyote engines and platforms. Also, they have put in the time to create awesome 6R80 trans tuning and drivability as well, which all of us that daily drive our cars can appreciate. They are not all about 1/4 mile performance as with my first Lund tune Jon II worked with me to customize the part throttle shift patterns the way I wanted them. Every question I asked was answered with great technical detail and overall customer service and turn-around time reviewing logs and receiving revisions was beyond impressive. Top that all off with countless very fast customer cars and numerous records, it's hard for them to not be at the top of the list when deciding on which tuner to go with.

I'm not at all saying there aren't other top quality tuners out there, for sure there are. I'm just saying anyone who chooses Lund is in great hands. It's not hype or marketing, it's fact.
That's a much better answer.:thumbsup::cheers:
 

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It sounds more like you want validation for your Bama tune purchase:shrug:

If you like it, great. I am ordering a Lund tune to go with my Steeda CAI when I purchase my stuff in the next month or so. Cannot deny all the positive feedback and results from the Lund owners.
i dont need validation i got my intake and tune from bama before the Ngague was ever even available. im looking for validation to switch.. have you not read anything?
 
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I don't consider any of my arguments vigorous, nor do I try to make a case for bama or any other "tuner brand."

If one company offers the ability to run flex and one doesn't and that matters to the customer then it's not really an advantage because it's not a competition, they are different products.

I just haven't seen anything about Lund that sets them apart except marketing and promotion, which is fine if that's what it is. The biggest proponent on the board can't really explain why either, which is interesting. When I market something I can explain the features and benefits and none have been shown that differentiate Lund from any other tuner that's not a tooner....

"Yaaaaaaaaaaay LUND!" Doesn't really move my needle I guess but if you don't know a lot about cars and want to make it easy, who else do you choose? I can see how you might have no idea.
this post is perfect. its exactly what im talking about. i dont think lund or bama are bad companies but everone has been screaming about the FF tune. just look at their thread page its has a shit load of views and comments and none of which are bad, but none of which also explain why it becomes much better than any other tune or tuner. yes i understand it adjusts but what if i dont need it to ever adjust because i dont ever mix fuels. i made this thread because i wanted answers to why people were yelling about the Lund FF tune, and yes i understand because some people like being lazy and not running fuel out or not taking 8 minutes to switch a tune. But thats not a selling point for me. I thought there had to be some kind of method behind the madness as to why this was such a great tune besides the fact that it just reads fuel and adjusts.
 
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My base kit Paxton ran 10.5@133 last night. Show me any other Paxton car with a 3.8" doing that...that's why I chose Lund lol
their are NA 15's running 10.9's im sure if they slapped a paxton on they could go .4 faster.
 

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yes i understand it adjusts but what if i dont need it to ever adjust because i dont ever mix fuels.
Sometimes E85 isn't exactly 85% ethanol, I recall seeing someone who ran a few tests on the E85 sold in his area and there were some overall differences in mixture ratio (if I recall correctly between 70-90%).
 

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this post is perfect. its exactly what im talking about. i dont think lund or bama are bad companies but everone has been screaming about the FF tune. just look at their thread page its has a shit load of views and comments and none of which are bad, but none of which also explain why it becomes much better than any other tune or tuner. yes i understand it adjusts but what if i dont need it to ever adjust because i dont ever mix fuels. i made this thread because i wanted answers to why people were yelling about the Lund FF tune, and yes i understand because some people like being lazy and not running fuel out or not taking 8 minutes to switch a tune. But thats not a selling point for me. I thought there had to be some kind of method behind the madness as to why this was such a great tune besides the fact that it just reads fuel and adjusts.
Then why the question? There have been no claims that it performs better than a pure e85 tune. If you don't need or want a flex tune than I wouldn't expect any level of 'excitement' from you. It's a 'better' tune for those of us who want to be able to run e85 but may not have many stations nearby and want the ease of use to be able to top off with 93 when we need or want to.

I really think that's where it ends at the software/tune level. Then you add in the geek factor of the Ngauge and that is attractive to some of us. I like the idea of being able to monitor lambda, ethanol content, coolant temps, etc., in a central place not to mention the super simple data logging.

So there's the software and hardware sides. Then you have customer service. I've submitted a dozen or so tickets in the last year. All of which were responded to promptly, thoroughly, and to my satisfaction. Add all of that together and you have an excellent all around product. Is it the fastest, most powerful, or absolute best? I wouldn't make that claim as I have no way to test them all...
 

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this post is perfect. its exactly what im talking about. i dont think lund or bama are bad companies but everone has been screaming about the FF tune. just look at their thread page its has a shit load of views and comments and none of which are bad, but none of which also explain why it becomes much better than any other tune or tuner. yes i understand it adjusts but what if i dont need it to ever adjust because i dont ever mix fuels. i made this thread because i wanted answers to why people were yelling about the Lund FF tune, and yes i understand because some people like being lazy and not running fuel out or not taking 8 minutes to switch a tune. But thats not a selling point for me. I thought there had to be some kind of method behind the madness as to why this was such a great tune besides the fact that it just reads fuel and adjusts.
I just got mine Ngauge FF tune put on a couple of a days ago and there was an immediate difference in power and have yet to put E85 on. I wasn't sure what to expect, but it has exceeded my initial expectations. Like others have said, there customer service is amazing. You submit a ticket and within a day or 2, you can basically guarantee a reply.

There also very reliable and reputable, you don't see people having issues with Lund or having their engines being blown because of a bad tune. The Ngauge was a huge selling point, being a to monitor and datalog, along with all the other features it has.

Btw if Lund is able to offer this FF tune and it offers an incentive to not switch tunes, does that make us lazy because we don't want to switch out tunes? It offers convinience and saves time (which we all like). It's called working smarter, not harder:thumbsup:
 

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I just got mine Ngauge FF tune put on a couple of a days ago and there was an immediate difference in power and have yet to put E85 on. I wasn't sure what to expect, but it has exceeded my initial expectations. Like others have said, there customer service is amazing. You submit a ticket and within a day or 2, you can basically guarantee a reply.

There also very reliable and reputable, you don't see people having issues with Lund or having their engines being blown because of a bad tune. The Ngauge was a huge selling point, being a to monitor and datalog, along with all the other features it has.

Btw if Lund is able to offer this FF tune and it offers an incentive to not switch tunes, does that make us lazy because we don't want to switch out tunes? It offers convinience and saves time (which we all like). It's called working smarter, not harder:thumbsup:
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their are NA 15's running 10.9's im sure if they slapped a paxton on they could go .4 faster.
K where are those at? And I hope they would since they're already a max effort car...I have 0 supporting mods.

People choose the Lund tune because of the consistency of results. Bama hasn't earned that same reputation for consistency...I had the V2 tune on my last car for free from them and it did well but then AED took it to another level.
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