Bama E85 tune

[stang305]

everyone keeps yelling Lund, but i just ran an 11.813 @ 117 in my GT PP with only JLT intake and bama's E85 tune. I haven't seen a Lund tune beat that by any reasonable amount or actually beat it at all. Im going to go check the 1/4 charts to see where i stand now and where other people stand with my same mods. im trying to make the jump to the Ngauge but i cant see it being worth it.

moved to the cape, use to live in miami. where do you run at? i use to run the 1/4 at palm beach race way in west palm.

also with the e85 did you have to change anything to run that? ex: spark plugs, injectors?, bigger fuel pump?

do you know if anything needs to be done to run e85 safe?

also was that run just e85 or were you running 50/50?

Thanks.

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[Mikeiscoo2]

Timeslips or it never happened.

:shrug:

i gave a link in the 3rd comment i cant help it if you didnt read anything. i dont know how to post pictures to the forums ive tried a couple times at it but failed.

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

Wait... Did someone compare Lund to Bama?

No disrespect to the AM guys, I think they are great, but Lund > Bama all day every day.

I can understand the price argument. I went with Steeda's power pack because it was $200 less than the same Steeda setup with a Lund tune. To me, that $200 is well saved and I got an amazing CAI (and soon the tune when it is emailed!).

i love when people like you talk like this yet you dont bring any proof to your premise.. yet here i am showing i cant find a worth while difference. so that gif goes right back at you..:headbonk:

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

moved to the cape, use to live in miami. where do you run at? i use to run the 1/4 at palm beach race way in west palm.

also with the e85 did you have to change anything to run that? ex: spark plugs, injectors?, bigger fuel pump?

do you know if anything needs to be done to run e85 safe?

also was that run just e85 or were you running 50/50?

Thanks.

i run 47lb injectors thats all i changed for E85 and its perfectly safe for me. and no i was running true E85 in the car. also there is a place called bradenton motorsports park about an hour and 30 minutes north of us and thats where i run.

 

[stang305]

i run 47lb injectors thats all i changed for E85 and its perfectly safe for me. and no i was running true E85 in the car. also there is a place called bradenton motorsports park about an hour and 30 minutes north of us and thats where i run.

thanks!

the only e85 station i know is on SR-78 (Pine Island Rd) & just west of US-41 (Tamiami Trail) in north fort myers (Race Track)

do you know any more?

 

[Ramen]

thanks!

the only e85 station i know is on SR-78 (Pine Island Rd) & just west of US-41 (Tamiami Trail) in north fort myers (Race Track)

do you know any more?

I have family in the Cape.

There's a Marathon E85 gas station on Palm Beach Blvd just east of I-75.

I didn't know that Race Track had E85. I'll definitely check it out next time I visit the folks.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

i love when people like you talk like this yet you dont bring any proof to your premise.. yet here i am showing i cant find a worth while difference. so that gif goes right back at you..:headbonk:

It sounds more like you want validation for your Bama tune purchase:shrug:

If you like it, great. I am ordering a Lund tune to go with my Steeda CAI when I purchase my stuff in the next month or so. Cannot deny all the positive feedback and results from the Lund owners.

 

[Higgs Boson]

All things equal flex fuel > E85 as you so vigorously argued for in a different thread. Unless Bama has a flex fuel tune it would seem that Lund has a decent advantage here, no?

I don't consider any of my arguments vigorous, nor do I try to make a case for bama or any other "tuner brand."

If one company offers the ability to run flex and one doesn't and that matters to the customer then it's not really an advantage because it's not a competition, they are different products.

I just haven't seen anything about Lund that sets them apart except marketing and promotion, which is fine if that's what it is. The biggest proponent on the board can't really explain why either, which is interesting. When I market something I can explain the features and benefits and none have been shown that differentiate Lund from any other tuner that's not a tooner....

"Yaaaaaaaaaaay LUND!" Doesn't really move my needle I guess but if you don't know a lot about cars and want to make it easy, who else do you choose? I can see how you might have no idea.

 

[MikeyPee]

Lund is worth the price for customer service alone. They work as a team, and my emails NEVER GO longer than 2 business hours without a response.

 

[Socalmustang]

I don't consider any of my arguments vigorous, nor do I try to make a case for bama or any other "tuner brand."

If one company offers the ability to run flex and one doesn't and that matters to the customer then it's not really an advantage because it's not a competition, they are different products.

I just haven't seen anything about Lund that sets them apart except marketing and promotion, which is fine if that's what it is. The biggest proponent on the board can't really explain why either, which is interesting. When I market something I can explain the features and benefits and none have been shown that differentiate Lund from any other tuner that's not a tooner....

"Yaaaaaaaaaaay LUND!" Doesn't really move my needle I guess but if you don't know a lot about cars and want to make it easy, who else do you choose? I can see how you might have no idea.

Not trying to instigate here, but I just read through the comments.

Since you tune your own cars, what makes your tuning different or can you explain what features/benefits your tuning provides?

 

[Higgs Boson]

Not trying to instigate here, but I just read through the comments.

Since you tune your own cars, what makes your tuning different or can you explain what features/benefits your tuning provides?

The best part about my tunes are perfect driveability. I pride myself on making big boy cams idle without dying or surging and drive through parking lots without people thinking you are riding a bull at the rodeo. I also completely calibrate the tune, I do not mask bad injector data in the airflow tables or just stick a car in maf only mode because I don't want to take the time to tune the speed density tables or don't know how to do it right. I understand and properly utlilize valve events vs spark events vs injection events for different cams and different fuels. I do my best to maintain or improve mileage even with modifications that can kill it. I can keep lopey cams from spewing fuel out of the exhaust. Stuff like that.....

Anybody, and I do mean anybody, can set an air fuel target and a spark value and floor it and dial in the maf. Anyone can repeat this process in experimentation to see which combo goes faster or dynos higher. That's not awesome, that's a prerequisite.

I tune more than just my own cars, but I am only here as a fellow car lover, not in a business sense. 90% of the cars I tune are not so someone can get down the track a little faster, but because whoever tuned their car before couldn't make it idle.....

Soon we will have some cams (small cams, even "stage 3") for the 15+ but up until now, it's been pretty basic stuff, intake and headers or a supercharger, tuning....that requires almost no ability past the basics to make right. I just am finding it strange that such energy is spent on who tunes your car for almost no mods.....you'd have to be pretty bad tuner to mess it up! And maybe that's why Lund is so popular on this forum, enough bad or mediocre experiences have left them as last man standing.

 

[Taneras]

If one company offers the ability to run flex and one doesn't and that matters to the customer then it's not really an advantage because it's not a competition, they are different products.

Different products? They're both tunes for the same car.

If Flex is better than e85, and Bama doesn't offer flex, that's an advantage for Lund. If you go with Bama you're at the mercy of getting a good blend E85, with Lund that's not an issue since the car is programmed to adjust.

 

[zaquhree]

The best part about my tunes are perfect driveability. I pride myself on making big boy cams idle without dying or surging and drive through parking lots without people thinking you are riding a bull at the rodeo. I also completely calibrate the tune, I do not mask bad injector data in the airflow tables or just stick a car in maf only mode because I don't want to take the time to tune the speed density tables or don't know how to do it right. I understand and properly utlilize valve events vs spark events vs injection events for different cams and different fuels. I do my best to maintain or improve mileage even with modifications that can kill it. I can keep lopey cams from spewing fuel out of the exhaust. Stuff like that.....

Anybody, and I do mean anybody, can set an air fuel target and a spark value and floor it and dial in the maf. Anyone can repeat this process in experimentation to see which combo goes faster or dynos higher. That's not awesome, that's a prerequisite.

I tune more than just my own cars, but I am only here as a fellow car lover, not in a business sense. 90% of the cars I tune are not so someone can get down the track a little faster, but because whoever tuned their car before couldn't make it idle.....

Soon we will have some cams (small cams, even "stage 3") for the 15+ but up until now, it's been pretty basic stuff, intake and headers or a supercharger, tuning....that requires almost no ability past the basics to make right. I just am finding it strange that such energy is spent on who tunes your car for almost no mods.....you'd have to be pretty bad tuner to mess it up! And maybe that's why Lund is so popular on this forum, enough bad or mediocre experiences have left them as last man standing.

My base kit Paxton ran 10.5@133 last night. Show me any other Paxton car with a 3.8" doing that...that's why I chose Lund lol

 

[Higgs Boson]

Different products? They're both tunes for the same car.

If Flex is better than e85, and Bama doesn't offer flex, that's an advantage for Lund. If you go with Bama you're at the mercy of getting a good blend E85, with Lund that's not an issue since the car is programmed to adjust.

What I mean is that if flex is part of your evaluative criteria then bama isn't on the list of choices at all so that's an advantage for Lund as a company, sure, but not an advantage of product vs product because you can't compare them.

If Best Buy sells Sony Xbr tvs and Walmart doesn't and you only want Xbr then you never go to Walmart but that doesn't mean the xbr is getting compared against the tv Walmart does sell, because the same choice exists for others in the opposite direction.

In this case flex is better than straight E85 tunes, imo so if a tuner doesn't have a flex option, the rest is irrelevant.

 

[Higgs Boson]

My base kit Paxton ran 10.5@133 last night. Show me any other Paxton car with a 3.8" doing that...that's why I chose Lund lol

That really doesn't mean much of anything. Show me another Paxton with a 3.8 with all the other identical mods as you at the same track on the same night and we can compare cars (and drivers). You are racing a car, not a tune.

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