Bama E85 tune

[beefcake]

So what does Lund do with higher HP cars that make big differences? Just wondering what makes you make this comment.

the fact holds just about every mustang / shelby / terminator record in the 1/4 or standing mile.

there is a reason that most quick cars are tuned by lund / move to lund when they want to go fast

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[stoli]

the fact holds just about every mustang / shelby / terminator record in the 1/4 or standing mile.

there is a reason that most quick cars are tuned by lund / move to lund when they want to go fast

Any idea how many of these were tuned by Ken vs Jon or John since Ken has left Lund?

 

[Higgs Boson]

the fact holds just about every mustang / shelby / terminator record in the 1/4 or standing mile.

there is a reason that most quick cars are tuned by lund / move to lund when they want to go fast

so just going by statistics? do you have a list of these record holders and the tuner used?

I would tune a car going for a record a heck of a lot differently than I would tune one being driven to the track once in a while but needless to say, for each car there is one combination of air, fuel, and spark that makes best power and any tuner can find that if they want, just trying to understand what you are saying the difference is.

 

[beefcake]

so just going by statistics? do you have a list of these record holders and the tuner used?

I would tune a car going for a record a heck of a lot differently than I would tune one being driven to the track once in a while but needless to say, for each car there is one combination of air, fuel, and spark that makes best power and any tuner can find that if they want, just trying to understand what you are saying the difference is.

the difference is, in general, lund tuned cars, especially the more heavily modified will be quicker.

thats what i'm trying to say.

come to any of the nmra races, come to the shelby / terminator shootouts, go to the texas mile, domestic vs import, etc...

see whos putting down the numbers, and who is tuning them.

if you like tuner a or tuner b, then stick with them. no one is forcing anyone to use anyone else. Save the $$ if your happy.

 

[Higgs Boson]

the difference is, in general, lund tuned cars, especially the more heavily modified will be quicker.

thats what i'm trying to say.

come to any of the nmra races, come to the shelby / terminator shootouts, go to the texas mile, domestic vs import, etc...

see whos putting down the numbers, and who is tuning them.

if you like tuner a or tuner b, then stick with them. no one is forcing anyone to use anyone else. Save the $$ if your happy.

I tune my own cars so it makes no difference to me who uses what.

I understand what you are saying, I am just asking if you can tell us what they are doing to make the difference and make them so fast but you keep going back to, "just come to the track and see." that's not a very good explanation.

why is the sky blue? just go outside and look at the sky if you need proof.

 

[beefcake]

I tune my own cars so it makes no difference to me who uses what.

I understand what you are saying, I am just asking if you can tell us what they are doing to make the difference and make them so fast but you keep going back to, "just come to the track and see." that's not a very good explanation.

why is the sky blue? just go outside and look at the sky if you need proof.

i guess i don't understand the question.

better knowledge of the car / computer / software / what works on multiple combos / experience

no different than the cam lope tune. they figure out a way on the 11-14s to make the cams lope. tune company ABC tries to reverse the tune, offers the cam lope to their customers, was missing paramaters that SCT didn't have, engines go boom.......

tune company ABC has to start offering a warranty to get any business back

It's like saying why was Jordan the best basketball player. He had more skill / talent. No different than what makes anyone else the best in their particular field

 

[DaUnit]

everyone keeps yelling Lund, but i just ran an 11.813 @ 117 in my GT PP with only JLT intake and bama's E85 tune. I haven't seen a Lund tune beat that by any reasonable amount or actually beat it at all. Im going to go check the 1/4 charts to see where i stand now and where other people stand with my same mods. im trying to make the jump to the Ngauge but i cant see it being worth it.

Timeslips or it never happened.

:shrug:

 

[beefcake]

Any idea how many of these were tuned by Ken vs Jon or John since Ken has left Lund?

since sr, jr handled 99% of the tuning i would guess lund. lol.

 

[stoli]

since sr, jr handled 99% of the tuning i would guess lund. lol.

Thanks - I was just curious and didn't know who was involved where.

 

[Higgs Boson]

i guess i don't understand the question.

better knowledge of the car / computer / software / what works on multiple combos / experience

no different than the cam lope tune. they figure out a way on the 11-14s to make the cams lope. tune company ABC tries to reverse the tune, offers the cam lope to their customers, was missing paramaters that SCT didn't have, engines go boom.......

tune company ABC has to start offering a warranty to get any business back

It's like saying why was Jordan the best basketball player. He had more skill / talent. No different than what makes anyone else the best in their particular field

tuning is more like math than basketball. you either know addition and subtraction or you don't. there is no who is taller, who can jump higher or who has more talent.

I guess what you are saying is SCT is the reason Lund is an amazing tuner because they have access to some tables? because it isn't magic or art.

I can make a lope tune in about 3 seconds.

the question is, what makes lund a better tuner? if we are only comparing them to one other tuner who leans out mixtures too much and blows engines, then ok, lund ain't dumb....

I am just looking for something more substantial than "just because" for why a tuner is better than another tuner. pro category racecars run faster or slower for a heck of a lot more reasons than just the tune. ask me how I know.

the bottom line is, it's marketing, you picked a tuner and you're doing a great job promoting lund but let's be real, there is nothing inherent about creating a proper tune, you either know what you're doing or you don't. lund knows what they are doing (I guess anyways....locking tunes in the GM world is an admission of retardation) so they are a valid option to tune a car. that doesn't make them the best though.

 

[beefcake]

tuning is more like math than basketball. you either know addition and subtraction or you don't. there is no who is taller, who can jump higher or who has more talent.

I guess what you are saying is SCT is the reason Lund is an amazing tuner because they have access to some tables? because it isn't magic or art.

I can make a lope tune in about 3 seconds.

the question is, what makes lund a better tuner? if we are only comparing them to one other tuner who leans out mixtures too much and blows engines, then ok, lund ain't dumb....

I am just looking for something more substantial than "just because" for why a tuner is better than another tuner. pro category racecars run faster or slower for a heck of a lot more reasons than just the tune. ask me how I know.

the bottom line is, it's marketing, you picked a tuner and you're doing a great job promoting lund but let's be real, there is nothing inherent about creating a proper tune, you either know what you're doing or you don't. lund knows what they are doing (I guess anyways....locking tunes in the GM world is an admission of retardation) so they are a valid option to tune a car. that doesn't make them the best though.

tuner abc pops up all the time. has for years. there are a select few who remain constant, and lund is one of them

as far as sct, lund doesn't need sct. and originally had no plans on even tuning with sct. its not my place to divulge what lund uses to tune with. sct asked lund to use their software.

lund is always at the head of the pack on development, decoding, and figuring out how to make these cars quick, always has been.

i don't need to write a resume for lund, as their reputation, and their track record speaks for itself.

again, you want to tune yourself, and you know what your doing, then great, do your thing. you want to use a different tuner, it's america, use who you want.

have a lovely day

 

[Taneras]

everyone keeps yelling Lund, but i just ran an 11.813 @ 117 in my GT PP with only JLT intake and bama's E85 tune. I haven't seen a Lund tune beat that by any reasonable amount or actually beat it at all. Im going to go check the 1/4 charts to see where i stand now and where other people stand with my same mods. im trying to make the jump to the Ngauge but i cant see it being worth it.

Unless Bama has a flex fuel tune a switch to Lund might be worth it for you.

I had a Bama tune on my 13 GT and I was satisfied with it. Went with Lund this time. Hard to tell much of a difference (100% satisfied with both) but I never went beyond an intake/tune so it'd be tough to feel a difference honestly. Also different cars, a bama tune on a base 13 GT vs a lund tune on a loaded 15 GT.

 

[Taneras]

So if 100 people have Lund tunes (due to the Lund love of this forum) and 13 run 11s, that is 13%.

If 2 people have bama tunes and 1 runs 11s, that is 50%.

Bama has a higher % of cars in the 11s than Lund.

That's why this thread is stupid along with brand loyalty. Makes you blind.

All things equal flex fuel > E85 as you so vigorously argued for in a different thread. Unless Bama has a flex fuel tune it would seem that Lund has a decent advantage here, no?

 

[daltron]

Wait... Did someone compare Lund to Bama?

No disrespect to the AM guys, I think they are great, but Lund > Bama all day every day.

I can understand the price argument. I went with Steeda's power pack because it was $200 less than the same Steeda setup with a Lund tune. To me, that $200 is well saved and I got an amazing CAI (and soon the tune when it is emailed!).

 

[RomanB]

Biggest positive to me between Lund/BAMA is when I showed up to my only E85 gas station in town and they were out of E85... put in 91 and drove away. If I had a SCT bama combo I would have had to go home get my SCT4 and wait to load the 91 tune then go and fill with 91.

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