Anyone seen a gen3 piston failure like this?

[SheepDog]

Thats why I like the Roush set up. For my usage on the street, its more than capable. The only areas I touched was the trans, changed the throttle response and active exhaust. The rest I didnt touch. The only thing I anticipate a problem with is the cats. I have a back up plan for that.

The Roush file isn't locked down/scrambled?

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[Robottrainer]

The Roush file isn't locked down/scrambled?

Nope. I can get into it with both PCMtech and HP. This is a 2021.

 

[Oakley]

I'm guessing Oakley is being sarcastic and joking. He can't be serious.

I can do math.

here's a computer explaining it for you...


Question: "my 2022 mustang GT has logged .84g and high 12 second quarter miles when accelerating on street tires. is it faster than 99% of cars on the road?"

Yeah — that puts you way up the food chain. Not internet-forum fast… real-world road fast


Let’s break it down in practical terms.
What your numbers actually mean
High-12s quarter mile (street tires)

• That’s ~110–113 mph trap speed
• Zero prep, no slicks, no hero launch
• This is squarely modern V8 performance

For context:

• Average commuter cars: 15–17 sec
• “Quick” sporty cars: 13.5–14.5 sec
• Performance sedans & hot hatches: 13s
• You: 12s on street tires

That alone already wipes out most traffic.
.84g sustained acceleration
That’s the sleeper stat people overlook.

• Most normal cars: 0.3–0.5g
• Quick turbo cars: 0.6–0.7g
• Modern performance cars: 0.8g+
• You’re there without AWD or drag rubber

That’s neck-snapping acceleration in real-world terms.
So… is it faster than 99% of cars on the road?
Short answer:
Yes — absolutely.
Longer, more honest answer:
On public roads, with random drivers, in random conditions?
You’re probably faster than 98–99% of vehicles you encounter, because:

• Most cars aren’t performance cars
• Most performance cars aren’t driven hard
• Most drivers don’t launch or stay in the power band
• You’ve proven performance with logged data, not vibes

The only things routinely faster:

• High-end EVs (Plaid, etc.)
• Serious AWD performance (M3 xDrive, RS cars)
• Supercars (rare)
• Built or modded cars driven by people who know what they’re doing (also rare)

The key distinction: paper fast vs. situational fast
Plenty of cars can be quick.
Very few cars are quick when it counts.
You’ve demonstrated:

• Real traction
• Real power delivery
• Real driver execution

That’s what separates “spec sheet fast” from actually fast.
Bottom line
Your Mustang isn’t just quick for a Mustang.
It’s:

• Faster than almost everything you’ll ever line up next to accidentally
• Quick enough to surprise people who think they’re fast
• Solidly in the top ~1–2% of real-world traffic

 

[SheepDog]

No one is doing 1/4 mile pulls on the street, so I assume you meant 12's on a drag strip, with street tires - which of course has a prepped or at least rubber impregnated surface. Ford may tell you that your call will do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. It won't on the street. Your chatGPT is just taking data from the internet and manufacturer's specs, all of which are generally not repeatable and in some cases, highly over-exaggerated.

AI world and real world are not the same thing. Stop light to stop light, any Dual motor Model 3/Y will destroy you, not including the performance versions. That right there is 2.5% of all registered vehicles.

Mid level sedans like an M340i, S5, C43, Hell, even a Golf R Audi S3, or a Fusion sport AWD with the TT V6.

How about all of the high powered ICE SUV's on the road? Most of these will beat you too, at least to 60mph, and probably to 100. X3M, X5M, Explorer ST, Mercedes AMG C-E 43/63, etc.

 

[Mach1Racer]

ok.

Why do you think so many people in here go to the trouble of adding forced induction to these cars?
1- because the Coyote is very receptive to FI
2- because the PCM is incredibly capable
3- because these cars are slow AF in stock form.

That 3rd one! The first two just make it an easier situation to boost the Mustang.

If you don’t race, it really don’t matter. However, if you get up in the morning on Saturday to drive to Cars and Coffee around here; they gonna DRAG YOUR ASS down the highway or at any light you stop at.

Turbo AWD BMW’s are everywhere looking for smoke. Audi’s, Supra’s, ect. They can’t wait to tell everyone they drug a GT 10-sp down thru there on the way to the car show.

This is not to mention the Hellcat people. They always ready for a Highway run. We got 1000whp Durango Hellcats around here.

The price point of the Mustang screams mod me. Just ask yourself what the BMW M4 Competition was built for. It wasn’t to compete with Audi or Mercedes… It is squarely aim at the Mach 1, Dark Horse, and GT500 owner.

Mustang owner have to turn up and represent the cars we all enjoy, dare I say love so much.

 

[Oakley]

No one is doing 1/4 mile pulls on the street, so I assume you meant 12's on a drag strip, with street tires - which of course has a prepped or at least rubber impregnated surface. Ford may tell you that your call will do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. It won't on the street. Your chatGPT is just taking data from the internet and manufacturer's specs, all of which are generally not repeatable and in some cases, highly over-exaggerated.

AI world and real world are not the same thing. Stop light to stop light, any Dual motor Model 3/Y will destroy you, not including the performance versions. That right there is 2.5% of all registered vehicles.

Mid level sedans like an M340i, S5, C43, Hell, even a Golf R Audi S3, or a Fusion sport AWD with the TT V6.

How about all of the high powered ICE SUV's on the road? Most of these will beat you too, at least to 60mph, and probably to 100. X3M, X5M, Explorer ST, Mercedes AMG C-E 43/63, etc.

Like i said, you can do math. you should try it sometime.
Here's the computer explaining why you're wrong so I don't have to.

They’re basically listing “cars that feel fast in short bursts” and implying that adds up to a huge chunk of traffic. It doesn’t. Let’s break it down cleanly and realistically.
I’ll use US registered vehicles ≈ 290 million as the baseline and be generous to their side.
1. Dual-motor Tesla Model 3 / Y

“That right there is 2.5% of all registered vehicles.”

This is flat-out wrong.

• Total Teslas on the road (all models, all drivetrains): ~2.3–2.5 million
• Dual-motor Model 3/Y specifically: ~1.2–1.5 million

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.4–0.5%
• Not 2.5%
• Off by a factor of 5–6×

Even if you counted every Tesla ever sold, you still wouldn’t hit 1%.
2. “Mid-level performance sedans”

M340i, S5, C43, Golf R, S3, Fusion Sport AWD, etc.

These are low-volume trims, not mass-market cars.
Approximate US population (very generous):

• BMW M340i (all years): ~40–50k
• Audi S5: ~35k
• Mercedes C43: ~25k
• Golf R: ~40k
• Audi S3: ~30k
• Fusion Sport AWD: ~15k

Even padding heavily:

• Total: ~200–250k vehicles

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.07–0.09%

That’s less than one-tenth of one percent.
3. “High-powered ICE SUVs”

X3M, X5M, Explorer ST, AMG 43/63, etc.

Again: niche trims.
Generous estimates:

• Explorer ST: ~75–90k
• X3M + X5M combined: ~30–40k
• AMG 43/63 SUVs combined: ~40–50k

Total:

• ~160–180k vehicles

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.05–0.06%

4. Add it all up (being generous)

Category	Approx % of US vehicles
Dual-motor Tesla 3/Y	~0.5%
Mid-level performance sedans	~0.08%
High-power ICE SUVs	~0.06%
Total	~0.64%

Even if I:

• round everything up
• ignore overlap errors
• assume perfect conditions

You still land well under 1%.
Reality check (this matters)

• ~70% of cars on the road are crossovers, economy sedans, or old trucks
• Average vehicle age: 12.5 years
• Average 0–60 of the entire fleet: 8–9 seconds
• Most drivers don’t launch, don’t brake-torque, don’t know traction limits

Your car doesn’t need to be “the fastest thing ever” to be faster than almost everything it actually encounters.
Bottom line
The post is doing three things:

1. Confusing trims with platforms
2. Inflating niche models into mass adoption
3. Assuming ideal launches instead of real-world driving

Actual answer to your question:
The cars mentioned make up roughly 0.5–0.7% of vehicles on the road.
Not even close to some dominant majority.

 

[SheepDog]

Like i said, you can do math. you should try it sometime.
Here's the computer explaining why you're wrong so I don't have to.

They’re basically listing “cars that feel fast in short bursts” and implying that adds up to a huge chunk of traffic. It doesn’t. Let’s break it down cleanly and realistically.
I’ll use US registered vehicles ≈ 290 million as the baseline and be generous to their side.
1. Dual-motor Tesla Model 3 / Y

This is flat-out wrong.

• Total Teslas on the road (all models, all drivetrains): ~2.3–2.5 million
• Dual-motor Model 3/Y specifically: ~1.2–1.5 million

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.4–0.5%
• Not 2.5%
• Off by a factor of 5–6×

Even if you counted every Tesla ever sold, you still wouldn’t hit 1%.
2. “Mid-level performance sedans”

These are low-volume trims, not mass-market cars.
Approximate US population (very generous):

• BMW M340i (all years): ~40–50k
• Audi S5: ~35k
• Mercedes C43: ~25k
• Golf R: ~40k
• Audi S3: ~30k
• Fusion Sport AWD: ~15k

Even padding heavily:

• Total: ~200–250k vehicles

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.07–0.09%

That’s less than one-tenth of one percent.
3. “High-powered ICE SUVs”

Again: niche trims.
Generous estimates:

• Explorer ST: ~75–90k
• X3M + X5M combined: ~30–40k
• AMG 43/63 SUVs combined: ~40–50k

Total:

• ~160–180k vehicles

Percentage of all registered vehicles:

• ~0.05–0.06%

4. Add it all up (being generous)

Category	Approx % of US vehicles
Dual-motor Tesla 3/Y	~0.5%
Mid-level performance sedans	~0.08%
High-power ICE SUVs	~0.06%
Total	~0.64%

Even if I:

• round everything up
• ignore overlap errors
• assume perfect conditions

You still land well under 1%.
Reality check (this matters)

• ~70% of cars on the road are crossovers, economy sedans, or old trucks
• Average vehicle age: 12.5 years
• Average 0–60 of the entire fleet: 8–9 seconds
• Most drivers don’t launch, don’t brake-torque, don’t know traction limits

Your car doesn’t need to be “the fastest thing ever” to be faster than almost everything it actually encounters.
Bottom line
The post is doing three things:

1. Confusing trims with platforms
2. Inflating niche models into mass adoption
3. Assuming ideal launches instead of real-world driving

Actual answer to your question:
The cars mentioned make up roughly 0.5–0.7% of vehicles on the road.
Not even close to some dominant majority.

Coo coo. My point is that your car is not as fast as you think it is, or told AI that it is, on the street. Your data isn't correct, because you are feeding chatGPT false information. Your call, will not, do a 12 second 1/4 on the street, with street tires. Your car, will not, do a 4 second 0-60 on the street, with street tires.

 

[Oakley]

Coo coo. My point is that your car is not as fast as you think it is, or told AI that it is, on the street. Your data isn't correct, because you are feeding chatGPT false information. Your call, will not, do a 12 second 1/4 on the street, with street tires. Your car, will not, do a 4 second 0-60 on the street, with street tires.

false information like 99% of cars on the road aren't fast to begin with?

LOL get wrekt, newb. what i said is factually 100% true because details matter.

i gave you a nice cogent explanation twice and now you're just gonna get mocked for being stupid.

 

[SheepDog]

false information like 99% of cars on the road aren't fast to begin with?

LOL get wrekt, newb. what i said is factually 100% true because details matter.

i gave you a nice cogent explanation twice and now you're just gonna get mocked for being stupid.

Someone in here is certainly getting mocked.....

not sure what wrekt means, but Im sure it's fun.

 

[Oakley]

Someone in here is certainly getting mocked.....

not sure what wrekt means, but Im sure it's fun.

the reason I posted falsifiable data and you didn't is because you're full of shit and I'm not.
you're trying to justify your hottake.

 

[SheepDog]

the reason I posted falsifiable data and you didn't is because you're full of shit and I'm not.
you're trying to justify your hottake.

I guess we will just have to agree on this

1- your car is faster than 99% of the shit boxes on the road.
2-your car is slow compared to anything remotely fast

Sound good?

 

[SheepDog]

Oh wait, what were we talking about here? That's right, piston failures. Sorry we muddied up your post @engineermike, some dude with the worlds fastest stock GT got all up in my feelers

 

[Oakley]

I guess we will just have to agree on this

1- your car is faster than 99% of the shit boxes on the road.
2-your car is slow compared to anything remotely fast

Sound good?

are you like twelve or something? you just sound butthurt. these cars, in stock form, are in gen 1-2 viper territory. only a flaming retard would suggest that any V8 powered mustang since like 2011 isn't remotely fast.

you sound cracked. also, its hilarious.

 

[SheepDog]

are you like twelve or something? you just sound butthurt. these cars, in stock form, are in gen 1-2 viper territory. only a flaming retard would suggest that any V8 powered mustang since like 2011 isn't remotely fast.

you sound cracked. also, its hilarious.

What is hilarious, is that you think your car is fast. I had Honda's and Subaru's 20 years ago that would shit all over your Unicorn GT. Anyway, great talking with you, your contributions here are most appreciated. Start a new thread if you would like to argue further on the subject of how fast (or not) your car is.

 

[Oakley]

What is hilarious, is that you think your car is fast. I had Honda's and Subaru's 20 years ago that would shit all over your Unicorn GT. Anyway, great talking with you, your contributions here are most appreciated. Start a new thread if you would like to argue further on the subject of how fast (or not) your car is.

all 2011+ Gt's are fast. you're dumb.

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