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I don't care what the EPA does, 75 MPH is pretty typical REAL WORLD interstate speed in the USA.

I'd even wager a guess that it is pretty close to the "average" speed driven today on the whole I-System (outside of morning & evening "rush-hours") regardless of "posted" limit.

The gearing change is also still a 15% increase in cruising RPM regardless of speed.

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Then your whole fuel mileage argument is out the window anyway. At posted speeds and under, the change would have little impact. Once you go over 70mph, you can throw the mileage out the window because it will start to suffer in much greater increments as the speed increases. The differences will be more noticeable when you speed.
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Don`t be surprised to see 2015 Mustang "Convertible" V6 Sales to be surprising brisk beyond just Rental Car Fleets Sales. For those seeking a lively spirited new Mustang Convertible and either can`t or (don`t) want to Pony Up (no pun intended) to paying 37K for a Premium EcoBoost Convertible, there will be a significant demand of ordinary Retail Buyers who will be much happier spending a mere 31K for a Base V6 Convertible. Missing Power Seat (Driver Only), 18` Wheels & Tires, Fog Lamps, and the (ugly) Blade Spoiler which can be deleted with Option # 13D? Even with the Base V6 Convertible configuration, if you really need those Options, there your for only $995 with Upgrade Package Option #051A. I won`t spend $5,550 to $6,500 to upgrade from the V6 to the EC 2.3 I4 to gain 10 HP and possibly no better Fuel Economy.
I agree that there is a big gap between the V6 convertible and the EB premium convertible, and there are probably a lot of people who want a convertible but can't or don't want to make that jump.

But I've read that Ford's plans are for the V6 to be on the way out, and for now they are positioning it for rentals and budget buyers. If that's the case, they may have different priorities for it.

I'm not a fan of this plan, but Ford will do what it wants with its models.

Maybe when the V6 is gone, the base EB will get a convertible to take the place of the V6 convertible.
 

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If Ford drops the V6 they will either have to drop the Ecoboost base price accordingly or risk having a higher base price than the Mustang's competitors.
 
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If Ford drops the V6 they will either have to drop the Ecoboost base price accordingly or risk having a higher base price than the Mustang's competitors.
I'd be very happy if they keep the V6 as the entry-level Mustang. But I wonder if it's too much to have three engines offered in a low volume car?
 

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I'd be very happy if they keep the V6 as the entry-level Mustang. But I wonder if it's too much to have three engines offered in a low volume car?
The Challenger sells in lower volumes than the Mustang and has four engines (Pentastar V-6, 5.7 liter, 392, Hellcat).
 

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The Challenger sells in lower volumes than the Mustang and has four engines (Pentastar V-6, 5.7 liter, 392, Hellcat).
Hmmm. I did not think of that.

There might be at least one more engine for the Mustang that we don't know about yet (the GT350 or some SE). But maybe there is still a business case to keep the 3.7 in the mix. I hope so.
 

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Hmmm. I did not think of that.

There might be at least one more engine for the Mustang that we don't know about yet (the GT350 or some SE). But maybe there is still a business case to keep the 3.7 in the mix. I hope so.
The present 3.7 V6 engine, has been incrementally improved since it was first used with the introduction of the 2011 Model Year Mustang. It is "naturally aspired", reliable, and a proven fairly powerful and dependable power plant. I believe (if) this V6 Engine is eventually replaced in the next few years, they will need to replace it with a nimble yet still fairly powerful lower displacement I4 Engine that is (not) EcoBoosted/Turbo-Charged. There will always be a Market for a Base Engine that gives reasonably good Fuel Economy that isn`t necessarily Eco-Boost or Turbo-Charged. Performance buyers will go for the EB 2.3 I4 or perhaps a EB 3.5 V6 or the larger displacement V8`s but ordinary Buyers and Rental Car Fleets will demand a simple, no frills dependable Power Plant. Ford knows that segment is a large dependable chunk of their Production and I doubt they would be foolish enough to dismiss that Market Share.
 

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I know there is little love for the V6. The EB will have more HP, more torque, and better mileage. The V6 is targeted for rental fleets, has limited options, and may only be around for another year or two.

But I really like the idea of a basic, entry-level, RWD sports car. For me, 300 HP is plenty and it should have around 50/50 weight distribution, which should make it fun to drive. I don't care that I can't get a touch screen or leather seats. I have no time to get into racing, and I'm not interested in HP bragging rights (although I do love the sound of a V8). And with a price difference of ~$1,500 compared with the EB, I'll take the V6 with very little hesitation.

There was this thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/phasing-out-v6-1076.html that discussed the love, or lack thereof, for the V6. But it died back in January.

Are there posters here interested in the V6? Do you not feel the need to discuss it because it's a carryover engine? Or am I more or less alone thinking that the V6 is an appealing Mustang?
Just read about the 52/48 weight distribution of the 2015 EB in another thread
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/more-specs-numbers-2553.html

Made me wonder the f/r weight distribution of the V6 (fastback and/or convertible). Better, or worse, than 52%?
 

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There is little doubt that the Base 3.7 V6 2015 Mustang Fastback Coupe or Convertible will be perceived by most Mustang enthusiasts as the "redhead bastard step child" compared to the sexy high tech EcoBoost 2.3 I4 and the testosterone driven performance GT V8. Each will have it own devotee`s. Just saying, for those desiring a Convertible and not wanting to reach the upper 30`s to the mid 40`s for a 2015 Mustang, the Base V6 will just have to do for those that want or need to keep the MSRP between 30 & 32K (including Automatic Transmission) for those who either (can`t) or choose (not) to "row their gears". For 2015, Ferrari is dropping the Manual Transmission on it most popular Sports Coupe, "The California" and will only be available with a 7 Speed Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters. Sorry Folks, the days of the "Clutch Petal" are numbered, at least here in North America.
 

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There is little doubt that the Base 3.7 V6 2015 Mustang Fastback Coupe or Convertible will be perceived by most Mustang enthusiasts as the "redhead headed bastard step child" compared to the sexy high tech EcoBoost 2.3 I4 and the testosterone driven performance GT V8. Each will have it own devotee`s. Just saying, for those desiring a Convertible and not wanting to reach the upper 30`s to the mid 40`s for a 2015 Mustang, the Base V6 will just have to do for those that want or need to keep the MSRP between 30 & 32K (including Automatic Transmission) for those who either (can`t) or choose (not) to "row their gears". For 2015, Ferrari is dropping the Manual Transmission on it most popular Sports Coupe, "The California" and will only be available with a 7 Speed Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters. Sorry Folks, the days of the "Clutch Petal" are numbered, at least here in North America.
To each their own. My next one will have 3 pedals...I am sure of this :)
 
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For 2015, Ferrari is dropping the Manual Transmission on it most popular Sports Coupe, "The California" and will only be available with a 7 Speed Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission with Paddle Shifters. Sorry Folks, the days of the "Clutch Petal" are numbered, at least here in North America.
Sadly, manuals are on the way out. But there are niche markets where the demand for manuals is still strong, and pony cars are one of those niches. I don't remember the exact numbers, but the take rate for manuals in Mustangs is high. I think that is because people who drive pony cars tend to be driving enthusiasts. They really enjoy driving, and tinkering with or modding, their car. They enjoy the experience of driving and want to be more connected to the car. In contrast, high-end sports cars like Porsche and Ferrari are just status symbols. They are highly desirable cars, but I think their owners (in general - there are exceptions) lack a certain passion for driving. So the demand for manuals is not there.

I think that for the foreseeable future, manuals are safe in Pony cars. But I agree that eventually they will go away. If not because demand dries up, then because eventually the IC engine will be replaced by an electric motor without a transmission. Fortunately, I was not born too late.:)
 

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Sadly, manuals are on the way out. But there are niche markets where the demand for manuals is still strong, and pony cars are one of those niches. I don't remember the exact numbers, but the take rate for manuals in Mustangs is high. I think that is because people who drive pony cars tend to be driving enthusiasts. They really enjoy driving, and tinkering with or modding, their car. They enjoy the experience of driving and want to be more connected to the car. In contrast, high-end sports cars like Porsche and Ferrari are just status symbols. They are highly desirable cars, but I think their owners (in general - there are exceptions) lack a certain passion for driving. So the demand for manuals is not there.

I think that for the foreseeable future, manuals are safe in Pony cars. But I agree that eventually they will go away. If not because demand dries up, then because eventually the IC engine will be replaced by an electric motor without a transmission. Fortunately, I was not born too late.:)
Manuals are not on the way out same with V8s. Someone says this every generation as early as I can recall...I remember in 2000. "Everyone will be driving a hybrid by 2010, gas engines are a niche market now" yeah nope.
 
 








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